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He was really good in Cedar Rapids but he has been a beast since arriving in Wichita. He looks pretty good in the OF too. His stock is going to shoot up if he finishes the season strong,

The Brewers would have never passed up the chance to get something good for Jeffers. They traded Burnes in a year that they were expected to contend. Their practices are just far more effective for building sustainable success. They also seem to find a way to get significant contributions from players that fail elsewhere like Vaughn for example or Megill who we gave up on..

I have seen quite a bit of ross. He is a good defender and very versatile. I have been rooting for this guy forever because his versatility and quality defense would be an asset. Ross has had some great streaks bit I just don't think the bat will play at the ML level.

You just outlined a major portion of how these teams continue to put a very high quality product on the field despite a huge revenue deficit! I was thinking the exact same thing about Ryan as I wrote the previous post. IDK if it's true that they were offered Tolle and Arias but let's use that decision to forego that trade to compare and contrast. Instead of extending Joe Ryan, it's quite possible Tolle will be better for more years at far less money. Of course, we don't know that this will happen, but this type of exchange is what teams like Milwaukee or Minnesota have to do to combat the revenue disadvantage. Of course, Arias is one of the top 10 prospects in the game and he is a middle infielder which the Twins are short on. That alone would be a big swing in the potential to build a contender but let's take this a step further. The really interesting part is that this type of trade and this practice makes it feasible to spend on free agents. You might even be able to afford a Joe Ryan "type" player by making such a trade. In other words, they could have had both. That might be a stretch but the concept is reasonable. The Twins changed direction in the middle of a rebuild. It's also quite possible they could have gotten Eyanson or Lagrange for Jeffers. Instead, they gave up a couple pretty darn good prospects for a sub 500 team twice as likely to not make the playoffs than to make the playoffs. Tampa and Milwaukee do occasionally trade away prospects but as you point out they are able to because they maximize their assets by selling high and continually developing assets.

I am going to throw in a little support for your point. The charts below show the acquisition method for the 2026 Rays who are on a 100 win pace and the Brewers who have the best record in MLB. AaP stands for acquired as prospect. This covers any form of acquisition where the player has not produced More than 1.5 WAR in a given season. These teams don't draft better than the Twins. The develop better than us and yhey do a lot better job acquiring prospects. 2026 Rays (100 Win Pace) Acquired WAR 2026 Brewers Acquired WAR Junior Caminero AaP 4.2 Brice Turang Drafted 4.2 Jonathan Aranda Intl 2.5 Jake Bauers AaP 2.3 Yandy Díaz AaP 2.4 Garrett Mitchell Drafted 2.3 Chandler Simpson Drafted 2 Jackson Chourio Intl 2.3 Jonny DeLuca AaP 1.5 Joey Ortiz AaP 1.6 Victor Mesa Jr. AaP 1.2 William Contreras Trade 1.5 Gary Sánchez FA 1.2 Pitchers Cooper Pratt Drafted Drafted Drew Rasmussen AaP 3.7 Andrew Vaughn AaP 1.2 Nick Martinez FA 2.3 Jacob Misiorowski Drafted 5.1 Shane McClanahan Drafted 2.2 Trevor Megill AaP 2.2 Ian Seymour Drafted 1.4 Kyle Harrison AaP 2.1 Bryan Baker AaP 1.2 Shane Drohan AaP 2 Aaron Ashby Drafted 1.5 Logan Henderson Drafted 1.4 # Acquired by: WAR % of WAR Brandon Woodruff Drafted 3 Drafted 5.6 23% Chad Patrick AaP AaP 1 International Draft 2.5 10% Acquired by: 6 Acquired as Prospect 14.2 58% 6 Drafted 15.7 47% 0 Trade for Proven 0 0% 1 International Draft 2.3 7% 1 Free Agent 2.3 9% 7 Acquired as Prospect 12.6 38% TOTALS 24.6 100% 1 Trade for Proven 1.5 5% 1 Free Agent 1.2 4%

He fits fine as a 4th OFer, starter against LHP, and late inning replacement / pinch runner. If there is a problem, it's not Martin, it's the construction of other parts of the roster.

Several of us have been saying Lee looks like an average player since he was hyped in the minors. What do you know ... His wRC+ is exactly average and so are his defensive metrics. He is an average player which is just fine if he is hitting 7th or 8th.

I used to complain about them drafting unathletic marginal defenders pretty much every year. They have had more defensive emphasis the last few years but it takes a while for those changes to impact the ML team. Look at the position players drafted in the early rounds over the past 3 years. Lackey this year. Houston last year and Culpepper and DeBarge in 2024. They also took Young and Amick in early rounds and they were not drafted for defense. I guess it's possibly Young could become a decent 3B with that arm. Jenkins, Keashall, and Winokur in 2023. The defensive competence should steadily rise over the next couple years.

It's definitely WAR adjacent. wRC+ is of course weighted runs created as compared to league average. DRS is defensive Runs Saved. Combine them and you have something close to what @Tony&Rodney was describing. This requires more scrutiny than I am inclined to invest.

The Twins will likely need to come in at least 2nd in the division because it is likely 3 teams will come out of the East. Over the past 50 games the Twins win % is .540, the White Sox .560 and the Tigers .580. The Twins are going to need to keep pace with the Sox and Tigers during this stretch or dominate both teams head to head.

This is really interesting. I was thinking they could create a new stat that started with wRC+ and then subtracted runs gained or lost defensively. I have not given it enough thought to have a strong opinion on if such a stat would have merit. DRS has its deficiencies, but the combined stat would provide a way to make the comparison you suggest.

Completely agree. Wallner and Sabato's offensive production is diminished by their defensive ineptitude. I was Simply making the point that Jenkins offensive production is not screaming he needs to be promoted. Culpepper had very similar offensive numbers and he is not inspiring confidence out of the gate. BTW .... I was very happy to see Culpepper promoted because the other option is Kreidler and Culpepper is likely to be at least as good offensively.

Massey has very good range but a weak arm. I don't think we would be gaining anything over Clemens or Keashall at 2B and Keashall has the potentially to be quite a bit better offensively. This is just a short-term view. By mid-season next year, they hopefully have Culpepper at 2B and Houston at SS. The OF is Buxton, Jenkins, and Rodriguez. Now that's a team that can play defense and run the bases.

His FB velocity is 90-92 so that will be an issue but his command is good. Maybe they could pull a little more velo out of him as a RP.

His OPS is 150 points lower than Wallner and Sabato. He ranks 12th in OPS among Saints players. His numbers are decent and he has been a little better lately, but I would not characterize his production as demanding a spot on the MLB roster.

Gallagher is a RHP.

If the goal is mediocrity .... Then yes. He has proven he knows how to perpetuate the mediocre performance we have seen on the field in the vast majority of the last 20 seasons.

I am not ready to declare Rojas an all-star just yet and I did not see the need to pull that trigger at the time. However, I have watched Rojas quite a bit in STP and he definitely could become the stud you predict. If that happens, it will, have been a good trade. Let's check back in about two years.

Agreed. My take on Clemmons is that we are in good shape if he plays a Willi Castro type of role, meaning the first guy off the bench. A guy who can step right in and deliver above average offense and average defense is a valuable piece of a winning team. Plus, he plays hard and he is pretty darn good in the clutch.

Clemens is at least league average defensively at multiple positions. IDK why he gets disrespected.

Many teams gain an advantage through positional flexibility, but the Twins don't quite have the right personnel to take advantage. I can see a scenario developing by the middle of next year, we have a lot less movement. Hopefully, Houston becomes the SS for the next several years. Culpepper probably ends up at 2B, Lee at 3B and Royce at 1B. The only guys moving around a lot are the guys meant to be Utility players.

No. They are not the Twins. They are the model of success for any modest revenue team. Do you want them to follow a less successful strategy because they have not executed the type of plan these teams follow or do you want them to become better at the model with the greatest chance of success?

There are two dominate teams from small markets this year. (Milwaukee and Tampa) How many of their top producing or even average players were acquired as proven MLB players? Since I assume you will ignore te any facts that don't support your narrative, I will give you the answer. Zero. How many were acquired before they were proven and by proven, I mean had even one season of average production? The answer is six for Milwaukee and six for Tampa.

You need to actually examine that statement. Take a look at Tampa and Cleveland's track record trading for established players vs established players. The ratio 8 or 10:1 Milwaukee is not far behind. Trading for established players plays a VERY small role in the success of these teams. Trading for prospects plays a major role.

I am quite OK with this approach if it serves its function which I assume is developmental. They must believe more frequent outings will assist in whatever it is they are working on with him. It's not like a big-league game where you are trying to get the most out of your starter in order to win the game and also preserve the BP. Development should have priority at least to a degree over winning in the minors. BTW .... He appears to be getting more consistent. I thought he look really good. Maybe this approach is helping.