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  1. It's a matter of perspective. Some of us have the perspective that the Twins and any other mid market team have no chance unless they develop prospects, especially pitching or we have no chance against the teams that can spend $200M or in the Dodgers case almost $300M. Relying on free agency is foolish for even the top revenue market. Ironically, it's the development of said prospects that provide the financial flexibility for a mid market team to add FAs or keep players when they hit free agency. So, yes, some of us are excited to pursue a direction that has a chance of producing a true contender. IDK think people are getting slammed as much as certain concepts. For example, when posters continue to stomp their feet that "we won't pay Jose Berrios" while completely ignoring he insists on going through the free agency process, it gets quite tedious and the responses got predictably more harsh.
  2. You hit the nail on the head with the statement I highlighted. It's understandable that fans don't want to wait. We want to be charging ahead. Trade for superstars and sign elite free agents. This team is not in that position. That expectation is going to disappoint of the next year plus as the development of Ober and a few more prospects is going to be part of the landscape. What's not to like with Ober. He is a 12th round pick that looks to have a floor of a solid back-end starter. He has very good mechanics for such a tall guy. Perhaps he can add strength and even more velocity. Then, if he can improve just one of his breaking pitches ... what's his ceiling? He is one of th bright spots in a dismal year for twins fans. Let's hope Ryan / Winder / Jax and/or a couple others show us their promise the rest of the way.
  3. I am not sure if Rooker is going to be well above average or a bust. That makes every AB right now fun to watch. I am pulling hard for Rooker. I hope we see Ryan / Winder and maybe even Caterino and Sands. I just have no faith in Barnes. I have watched some of his AAA starts and I just don't see it. Would love to be wrong. I have a little more hope for Jax based on what we have seen so far but the other guys have higher ceilings so let's get them up here whenever it makes sense.
  4. I agree. Hit tool is at least as good and probably better with more power. Also significantly more defensive value.
  5. It wouldn't be a problem if he pitched 120 innings last years but that's not the case. I would hope they were proceeding with caution before the crazy rate of injuries in MLB and Milb. Now, they must be down right paranoid.
  6. I think you are looking for something to complain about. It is absolute non-sense to suggest Ober is what we are left with. He just happens to be one of the first to be ready. Balazovic / Ryan / Winder / Canterino / Sands / Strotman / Enlow / Woods-Richardson all have more upside and the first six are very close. I would bet Ryan is in the rotation when he gets back from the Olympics and Winder could be anytime as well.
  7. Agreed. Could have been they held out long enough the other team went another direction or they just decided they would hold on to him if the best they could do if the offer was another FV40 type guy. I really don't know but experienced has taught me there is something else going on when something this obvious does not happen.
  8. Sure. That's just as likely perhaps even more likely. When something does not make sense I assume there is something at play (information) I am missing. I just thought they might have taken the position that the demand for pitching was high enough they would ask for a premium and someone would cave in the final hour. Of course, we just don't know the relative merit of the offers they received. I do think there is some validity to the team wanting more than 1 established SP the rest of the season as well as a mentor for the young guys. That would support both theories of how they came to hold on to Pineda.
  9. My guess is they were holding out (as reported) for a substantial return on Pineda which required them to play hard ball until the final hour and it ended up not happening. I think this was probably quite calculated by our FO for a handful of reasons. 1. They need a mentor for all the young pitchers and there is probably a bit of a language barrier with Maeda. 2. It might help in resigning him if that is their goal. 3. Not risking it getting really ugly the rest of this season had they gone down to one experienced SP. With this in mind they were willing to forego hold on to him if their price was not met. That's the price you pay when you bluff on the river and get called on it.
  10. Many here don't understand this move because they are asking the wrong question. They are asking how can we be better in 2022 when they should be asking what is the most effective / highest probability strategy to get back to contention for as may years as possible. Would you assess the relative merit of an investment strategy or business opportunity based only one the first year? Players are quite commonly out for half or all of a year. Do those teams become unwatchable? Are there no possible replacements for Berrios in free agency next year. Do I need to go through the list of equivalent or higher profile free agents that were not retained by their teams in the past decade? This was a very good week for the Twins in terms of getting back to contention. Hell, what's to say they don't sign him in 2022. As I said, I doubt the odds of that happening changed.
  11. So, in other words, you don't want to be bothered with facts and to portray my statement as meaning what you have is absurd and petty. Every losing team in the league is following similar practices, they just did not do it as well as the twins this year. Yet, you assume all of the baseball executives operating the same way are stupid apparently.
  12. I wonder if the plan is to extend Pineda. They certainly could have found a trade for him so what's up?
  13. In relative terms it's probably better than the Berrios trade.
  14. I renew my prediction from yesterday that the trade comes in at 2:55. I am a Donaldson supporter but I have a man crush on Jose Miranda. What a story that guy is. I would be just fine with giving him a shot a 3B next year in the wake of today's trades and what they mean to 2022.
  15. Are you having a good day, Mike? Are you going to need a sedative if they get something for Pineda?
  16. Like Blake Snell who many here thought was a no brainer trade who is playing at roughly replacement level or Albert Pujlos who was one of the very best in the game and produced a negative WAR for 5 years straight or Chris Davis who signed a mega deal and has produced -5 WAR or Jason Heyward who has produced 8 WAR in 6 seasons after signing a mega deal. Or Stephen Strausberg who signed for 7/245M and pitched 5 innings in 2020 and 21 IP in 2022. Maybe he will bounce back this one could be disasterous. We could go on and on. Dexter Fowler, David Price, Jacoby Elsbury, Eric Hosmer, Johnny Questo, Ryan Zimmerman, Carl Crawford, Pablo Sandavol, Josh Hamilton, Ryan Howard, Prince Fielder and on and on. We have not even mentioned the very long list of relief pitchers. That would take a while. Yep, sure bet!
  17. We added three very good pithing prospects this week and we are not done yet. We are deep in SP prospects and lean in SS/CF prospects. It is no surprise a guy who could play both SS and CF was part of the package the accepted.
  18. I doubt their chances of signing Berrios changed any today. They were going to need to outbid everyone to sign him and I think that scenario remains the same today. The difference is we add to prospects that individually could be as impactful as Berrios and in Martin's case even more so. The cost is Berrios for 2022.
  19. Hard to argue his "athleticism is unmatched", The part that "his production is unparalleled" even with the caveat "when healthy" is true for a 27 game stretch. I too hope for more of that production but he should not be mentioned in the same breadth as Kirby Puckett where production is concerned at least not at this point. Puckett produced a career WAR of 44.9. Rod Carew produced a career 72 WAR and had a 5 year stretch where he produced 35 WAR.
  20. They definitely have the pieces. Let's hope they are willing to include one of them very high on the list. I just don't know what to expect with how tight teams have been with top prospects. What's realistic from the Jays?
  21. Who here believes the Pineda trade comes in at 2:55 tomorrow afternoon?
  22. I think the Jays or Rays are a good match. The Rays seem to be in a very aggressive state and there has been quite a bit of trade interaction with them the last couple years..
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