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  1. Amen to Nick Gordon being an OUTFIELDER & no longer a utility infielder. 100% on him being best option, probably 60 plus games in CF this year, behind Buxton. Every day LF otherwise!! 550 at bats & he’s a 40 doubles - 15 HR guy with durability & speed. 160lbs to 185lbs in 6 months last winter/spring. ”Celestino. Please.” …….again, 100%. Can’t be in” on roster of 26!! TRADE: Celestino - Kepler - (1 of Sands - Winder - Ober) - Farm System IF as well - with our new depth at SS. (hang on to Lee & Lewis) These 4 guys for a front line starter. I think, with moderate success, we extend Mahle - Gray - Maeda in late June……2 of the 3 possibly. Also, I see Maeda out of the Pen first 2-3 months at least. Kirilof or Walner, if an absolute must, should be offered in a trade before Arraez!! He’s 26 and just scratching his potential. If he hit anywhere but lead-off his doubles & RBI would be up considerably. He’s in “get on base mode” batting lead-off. Can’t disrespect the 4 year BA of .314!! .316 in ‘22 wasn’t some fluke, or high point for trade purposes. We wish & hope 3-4 other guys in our Farm System could turn into the hitter Arraez is……cannot trade the batting champ!
  2. My view of Market & needs: Sign 2 of 3: Chafin or Hand………Fulmer. Trade for starter ……Kepler - Pagan - Celestino - Martin…….(not Lewis or Lee) or whoever needed. Maeda moves to Pen with newly aquired starters. Sign McCutchen for RH bat and experienced bench guy with speed, even at 36.
  3. Same guy that started over 100 games in OF last year……Nick Gordon - Byron Buxton - Joey Gallo is our principal outfield………..Larnach - Gordon - Gallo is our 2nd set……..Vs. Lefties, Gordon - Buxton - McCutchen (yet to sign - somebody has to replace Garlick) Nick Gordon had 28 doubles in 405 AB’s………pencil him in for 40 if he gets 575 AB’s. Gained 25 lbs from January-June last year. He could easily be a 15 HR guy & with speed. He’s no longer our utility IF, he’s our 2nd best OF & if Buxton can’t play he’s #1. Larnach will get a bunch of OF (LF) AB’s & probably 1/3 of DH AB’s. Kirilof isn’t displacing Araez anytime soon. Get 75 - 150 AB’s w/o getting hurt & then we’ll consider some starting spot at 1B.
  4. Caleb Thielbar, while sometimes looking heroic for the TWINS, is on nobody’s trade radar. Certainly not a rebuild like Miami. I’m 60 & I think Thielbar is fragile & old!! Can’t gut the team either as one gentleman posted: Arraez - Polanco - Larnach - Ober - Lewis for 2 starters. Kepler can’t be in Twins uni this year or FO is nuts! How about Alcantara to TWINS for Kepler - Celestino - Martin (maybe 2B, Julien ?) - Ober. A probable starter with upside in Ober……potential lineup anchor in Martin, youth that could be ready later this year………Kepler is plug in everyday RF……..Celestino is a depth OF. 3 guys under team. control for years & immediate OF help with Kepler.
  5. Kepler has to be traded. Can’t carry $20 million combined salary with he & Gallo. Celestino had 324 AB’s in ‘22 with 12 doubles & 2 HR & hit .238. Gordon had 405 AB’s in ‘22 with 28 doubles & 9 HR & hit .272. Gordon getting rapidly stronger, gained 25 lb from January to July. How many HR did Larnach & Kirilof hit in ‘22??? Gordon’s going to play every day in LF or CF. With 550-600 AB’s he’ll hit 14 HR & 40 doubles! Garlick is mediocre & maybe a guy we pick up again if we can’t make another move. Last resort. I do like Garlick more than Celestino! We should pick up Andrew McCutchen to play opposite Gallo in right when lefties throw against us. McCutchen can spell Gordon vs. lefties occasionally as well. I see comments routinely that Buxton “….,needs to play 135-145 games this year for our success.” Get real! If we get 120 games with 85 in CF I’ll be surprised & ecstatic. Lots of Larnach - Gordon - Gallo OF against right handed pitching in ‘23. OF: Buxton - Gordon - Gallo - Larnach - McCutchen IF: Miranda - Kirilof - Araez - Farmer - Polanco - Correa C: Jeffers - Vázquez Starters: FA/Wacha or Aquired via trade guy - Mahle - Ryan - Gray - Ober Pen: Moran - Thielbar - Megill - Jax - Maeda - Duran - FA/Fulmer - FA/Chafin or Hand Roster room comes with trading a pitcher (Winder - Sands - prospect) with Kepler - Pagan - Celestino for front end starter. Maybe 2 trades, as we now have some IF depth with our Farm System & CC’s signing. Alcala - Varland - SWR all getting sharp in St. Paul…….Walner playing every day in St. Paul to potentially take Gallo’s spot if he’s not playing well through June. Improving pitching to start year is our key - we have plenty of depth elsewhere. We have BP depth with a FA signing or two. EXPERIENCED starter would be great to enable Maeda to be in the pen.
  6. Chafin - Hand - Fulmer (2 of these 3) McCutchen if only spend on one reliever. Kepler - Pagan - Celestino & whoever else needed to get a Starting Pitcher. If we must move Polanco, Farmer can handle 2nd until youth is ready every day in ‘24.
  7. Correa is just a player - one piece! We had 2nd or 3rd most blown saves in league. Joe Smith & Duffey are gone. Hopefully, Pagan will be gone. Opportunity to reduce 27 blown saves to say, 12. That’s 90 wins in ‘23 right there. We had Jake Cave & Gilberto Celestino as two of our outfielders for weeks. Both played hard - decent guys - not MLB caliber starters and barely reasonable for high end AAA. Larnach - Kirilof - Kepler - Buxton - Garlick……..ALL HURT in ‘22. Kepler missed more than a month. Polanco missed more than a month. Buxton missed two months. This was our offensive core entering 2022. Our catchers couldn’t hit to save their lives. We signed Vazquez. Farmer is now a depth piece - former starting SS!! Now that CC is in place, Lewis can work out at 3rd & 2nd. Same with Lee. If we add a Starting Pitcher via trade ……..Kepler-Pagan-Celestino-Prospect (bumps Maeda to Pen) and sign a FA reliever we’re golden. McCutchen is an affordable RH option as an outfielder that could help against LHP…….also, a good defensive reserve.
  8. We are better on 1/10/23 with CC. than w/o him on 9th. We were way better 1/9/23 than last year! Not because he’s going to guide our young guys in clubhouse or because he’s going to carry our offense, With Farmer able to add depth at 3 IF positions - huge plus!! No Joe Smith - Duffey blowing saves……hopefully, no Pagan. This is a probable 10-14 more wins……can’t emphasize current Pen enough. Potentially, a healthy Mahle - Ober - Maeda with experienced Varland - Megill -,Moran -,Jax. All worth wins. No Bundy - No Archer!!! Vazquez is an upgrade as well. Could use A. McCutchen & more importantly a FA reliever! BIG. CHANGES!
  9. How about your line-up with Jeffers catching……..Vázquez at DH……….Garlick in LF…….McCutchen in RF!!!
  10. Chafin - Hand - Fulmer……..sign two of these guys!! If we can trade for the front end starter………pushes Maeda into the Pen & making it top flight Pen in baseball. We may be able to still sign McCutchen! Need a RH bat with Garlick as only other viable option. Can live with just the trade for starter & one reliever. McCutchen & 2nd FA reliever is asking a lot!!
  11. Acquire McCutchen…….against lefties, he’s in Right Field. We also have 8 other RH bats to start if desired!! Garlick in LF Buxton in CF Farmer at 3B Miranda at 1B Vazquez at DH Jeffers at C Correa at SS Polanco at 2B Hopefully, Celestino is not an option for the line-up.
  12. Gotta LIGHTEN UP on FO!!! CC signing done. If they sign a FA reliever we’ve had an outstanding off season……..Gallo is a big swing for a guy that has a shot at having Power Impact………lower risk with the young depth behind him. Vázquez is also a very good signing………I’m sure CC was well aware of these adds. Trading Kepler along with López/Pagan and a Farm System IF that’s no longer needed for a front line starter……….Grand Slam Off-season!!!!! Miranda - Correa - Polanco - Araez - Vázquez is one of best Offensive Infields in the game!! Farmer is high end Utility guy & rounds out IF with Kirilof & Jeffers. Gordon - Buxton - Gallo………Larnach & Garlick 5-6 RH guys vs. Lefties & 5 LH guys vs. Righties in line-up. Araez - Buxton - Larnach - Polanco - Correa - Miranda - Gordon - Vázquez - Gallo………healthy Larnach & we’re awfully solid!
  13. TIRED OF CC DRAMA - sounds like it’s over!! TWINS WIN?? Correa to the Twins for 6 years @ $200 million. On The Herds bottom line. Super - done - enough said. Probably, get OFF THE FO’s back!!! Kepler - Celestino - Pagan - some farm system guy for a Starting Pitcher Sign a reliever - please. Fulmer/Hand/Chafin….go get one!!
  14. I’d like to see him take his youth, speed, strong arm, & defensive skills - along with his ability to walk at a high rate, to another ball club. To me, his youth & upside are his best attributes for trade value. He had 15 XBH in 347 at bats in ‘22 …….Arraez had 40 XBH in 547 at bats. Arraez bats 1st most of the time - trying to get on base, not drive the ball. He has nearly twice % of XBH as Celestino. Celestino has an eye test problem with bat speed. 4.5% XBH - 90% of batted balls are from 2nd baseman to right field foul line. Hopefully, other franchises will like his upside!!
  15. Sounds like Cueto is signed: Kepler - Pagan - Celestino - López to Marlins for a starter. 2 upside OF for Fla. 2 re-work relievers with good stuff for Fla Yields them 2 guys on roster with 2 more potential guys all for $16 million……might be too much money?
  16. TIRED of the CC drama!! Really need to MOVE ON & spend the $ on Free Agent depth. CUETO/WACHA (pick one) FULMER/CHAFIN/HAND (pick two) McCUTCHEN (consider) Is 2023 brighter with CC or an additional experienced depth arm (moves Maeda to the Pen) - along with 2 solid relievers - along with decent defensive outfielder at 36 & bench presence - RH hitting option in front of Garlick?? Which option is a BETTER TEAM? Outfield: Gordon (LF/CF/2B) - Buxton (CF/DH) - Gallo - McCutchen - Garlick Unless Gallo is really productive, he & Garlick are gone by Aug 1 & combination of Lewis/Walner/Lee are ready to go. Walner in St. Paul playing RF every day Kepler & Celestino are traded Larnach at DH & LF Infield: Miranda - Farmer - Polanco - Arraez (1B/3B/DH) - Kirilof Catchers: Vazquez & Jeffers
  17. YOU ARE RIGHT - most starters don’t do well against better teams! Most ROOKIES don’t get 13 wins with a 3.55 ERA and are plugged in as the #1 guy either! Gotta cut Ryan a break. If he duplicates last year and avoids slump year we’ve got a really valuable guy! Another 2/3 of an inning per start gets him to around 165-175 innings in his 2nd year. He’s a potential #2 guy for next 7-8 years.
  18. Pagan along with Mr. Lopez to rid ourselves of ghosts of Most Blown Saves (27) of any team I care about in ‘22!
  19. Can only PENCIL IN a guy whose max innings per year has been 80 innings over 5 years & then to his best year of 92 1/3 in ‘21 was followed up by 56 innings in ‘22. His lack of availability coupled with Mahle questions on health and Maeda coming off surgery are why we should acquire via trade or sign another starter from FA! Signing starter depth protects against Ober - Mahle - Maeda & the potential/probable problems with at least one of them in ‘23. Need Varland - Winder - SWR for second line of depth defense!! We’ll need 7-8 guys able to start to get through the year.
  20. The 48 1/3 over last 3 seasons Sale has been available for denotes at least as much risk as seeing if Cueto or Wacha can get guys out for 3 months, early in the year. With depth early we hedge against Ober, Mahle, & Maeda not being ready, so I agree we need a vet starter for depth. Also, lets SWR & Varland & Winder have time to be mentally sharp when plugged in for every 5th day action. I am willing to take a swing with Sale if we are giving up Kepler - López - Celestino - etc……..don’t want to trade good youth for this much health risk & $$$. If he can pitch it’s masterful for our staff. 130 innings of Sale at 3.50ERA & 8K/9 would be a really nice add. That’s Sale at career worst numbers. The depth starter, regardless of who we may acquire or sign from FA, allows Maeda to help in Pen. Sign Fulmer & one of Hand/Chafin, and we are deep all through the staff. Less $ than Sale & a $8 million guy like Wacha or Cueto along with 2 relievers is more attractive. What brings more value for winning games? SALE vs. FULMER, HAND, CUETO oh yes, and less risk for our $27 M/year. ALL FOR Sale & Fulmer & Hand if workable on the $$!!!
  21. ARAEZ: Hits as a slap/on base guy because he bats lead-off. Guarantee he can hit 12-14 HR’s and .305 batting 3rd or 5th. His RBI would go up from 48 to 80. Also, down in the line-up he protects the guy in front of him. Trading hitting talent is not good……314 lifetime over 4 seasons - managed to find a spot for him in the line-up 144 times in ‘22. Doesn’t matter if he’s loved or hated, can’t trade his bat. Sign 2-3 FA arms and we’re good! (Wacha - Cueto - Fulmer - Hand - Chafin) all reasonable options) When healthy, Gordon is our starting LF for next 6 years! IMO.
  22. ………maybe work Martin into the trade with Kepler & Celestino & set some other franchise up in the OF, for an arm. Or maybe Celestino & López & Pagan & Kepler for an arm?
  23. Celestino should be part of a trade along with, Pagan, Kepler, López for best we can get. Can’t hit the ball to left of 2nd baseman - no power - not bright on bases - OK outfielder. He got innings last year because 5 outfielders in front of him in the organization were hurt - no other reason. 2024 roster estimation: Infield……..If Correa signs one of Lee - Lewis - Julien - Miranda will get traded due to their upside & everyday player ability. Arraez. Catcher………Vázquez & Jeffers DH………Larnach (placeholder - actually a rotation) Outfield……….Gordon - Walner - Kirilof - Rodriguez - Buxton Kirilof & Arraez & Buxton & Walner get DH at bats…….Kirilof plays as much 1B as OF. Payroll is $45 million OR $74 million. Would prefer to have $105 million for our pitching staff, if needed!!! (vs. $76 million)
  24. Player attraction is driven by $$$ & winning tradition. Minneapolis is what it is…..can’t dress it up to be New York. Pay guys & start winning Divions - playoff games!! In the interest of winning now, spend some of the available $ we do not need to pay CC. Get a Wacha or Cueto to start the year so we can groom Varland another 2-3 months (remember, Mahle may collapse after 5 starts or he could be a surgery candidate by March 20???) Assuming health, getting another starter allows Maeda to move to the Pen. Strengthens Pen dramatically & conserves Maeda’s arm first half of year. At the end of June you can displace whoever you like out of rotation based on results……..maybe Maeda becomes starter? …….maybe the FA is performing? …….maybe SWR or Varland are really ready!! Take another $17 million & sign Fulmer from FA market & another reliever, a left hander, from FA market. Our staff would have great depth & would be formidable. The guys are out there to sign. Act.
  25. Maybe extend Polanco with decent performance? Extend 2 or 3 pitchers due up for FA with decent performance through June. Get a couple FA relievers now and we can be in the playoffs this year!!
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