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  1. LA Vikes Fan
    I like it. Think SF would be interested? By the way, BBTV rates Lewis as a higher value than Arraez (probably due to Arrez's contract expiring), so they have SF Throwing in a lower value player like Catcher Drew Cavanaugh. Arraez and Cavanaugh for Lewis would be a deal to make if available.
  2. LA Vikes Fan
    I think you and I have different views of whether the Twins are "contenders" and how some little success would affect the Twins past this year. I think the Twins are absolutely contenders for the Division title or last Wild Card. All of the teams with whom they are competing are just as flawed as they are. One in, they will get a relatively weak division winner and could win a playoff series, followed by being quickly shown the door in the next series. They are not WS contenders or even ALCS contenders this year. However, with a little playoff experience and some moves for controllable players, I think they could be contenders as early as 2027 and definitely by 2028. But even if I agreed with you that this team is nowhere good enough and might not even have much of a chance to make the playoffs, absolutely still trade Jeffers. He's gone after the season and he's not coming back. The Twins have undoubtedly inquired about the cost of an extension and the sides must be pretty far apart. I like the guy and I would rather keep him, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to keep him if he isn't coming bank and if there is a decent trade package out there unless the point is to excite the fans that season. I don't think we are good enough to lose a valuable asset for nothing at seasons end to accomplish that business objective. Hey, I don't dislike Wallner, he just can't play in the field. If the Twins trade Bell, maybe he could come up as a LH DH/emergency only OF. I just don't see that as a long-term viable role although it might help him establish some value so he be traded to a bad team in the off-season. I just think that the long-term role for him is starting on a sub .500 team as a DH or in the OF. I do not see him playing any significant role on a contending team because he can't run, is a major liability in the outfield, and strikes out more than 35% of the time. You just can't play a guy like that on a winning team.
  3. LA Vikes Fan
    Agreed. I could see trading Lewis for a young, controllable arm even a reliever like Bachman, Silseth or Zeferjahn of the Angels, or Ferrer in Seattle, etc. Other than that, we should run with him and see if he can get back to what he was. Trading him for an older, expensive declining guy makes no sense to me.
  4. LA Vikes Fan
    I realize Jeffers is only a rental but these 4 guys don't do a lot for me. Maybe if we could get 2 of them , like Warren and Hess, I'd be interested but I understand that seems too rich from the Yankees side. So here's my idea, one of these pitchers plus an IF prospect: Jeffers for Benn Hess and Kaeden Kent. Still not very exciting. Trade with the Mariners for Hancock and be willing ot add Emma if they are willing to add Ferrer or Speier. If you can't do that, pivot to Tampa. Tell NY that they have to trade us Elmer Rodriguez-Cruz or Spencer Jones for us to be interested. Those 2 are worth more than Jeffers so we'll throw in a 25-30 prospect. If they won't do that, the Yankees don't have what we need. If we're just trading him "for the best we can get", go to Tampa or Seattle.
  5. LA Vikes Fan
    Interesting. Not sure I like it because I don't think Jeffers is back after this year and I htink the return for Lewis is light. How about this where we trade Jeffers to Seattle who desparately needs RH hitting And a catcher with Raleigh hurt and not performing. Lewis to Angels for Bachman, plus Zeferjahn or Silseth. We throw in Yasser Mercedes if necessary. Wallner and Adams to Colorado for Vodnik. Jeffers and Erod to Seattle for Hancock and Ferrer or Speier. Bell for prospects - don't care one way or the other. Culpepper and either Gray or Ben Ross come up to replace Lewis and Jeffers. Clemens goes back to 1B, with Bell and Jackson in reserve. Culpepper plays 2B, Gray or Ross is UTL. Hancock is #4 in rotation replacing Matthews who goes to AAA until Prielipp needs to go to the bullpen. Bullpen gets Bachman, Zeferjahn, Vodnik, Ferrer, loses Adams, Funderburk to AAA, Rojas to AAA building up as a starter and Sands to the IL or AAA (he's not ready yet). If we can only get one reliever for Lewis, Rojas stays.
  6. LA Vikes Fan
    I'm much more interested in trading for Emerson Hancock and am willing to give up real value to get him. Castillo is done. He doesn't move the needle for me.
  7. LA Vikes Fan
    They aren't. My idea of trading Wallner to a bad team is just to give the guy a chance for a reset, and to avoid the possibility the Twins might be tempted to bring him back up and actually play him. I do not see Wallner as an asset with much of any value. Maybe he could be a change of scenery guy and turned his career around the way Brent Rooker did, or the way Willie Castro did when he came to Minnesota. Walter can't run, can't field, and strikes out over 33% of the time. I doubt if he's ever going to get much of another shot with the Twins. Maybe it's good for both him and for the Twins or him to go somewhere else.
  8. LA Vikes Fan
    First, I think you can both trade Jeffers and buy pitching, maybe even in the same deal. They are not mutually exclusive. The Twins can easily be buyers while trading Jeffers expiring contract. Also, Jeffers is a free agent at the end of the season but Larnach is not. We have another year with him so no need to trade him to avoid having him walk away for nothing. Second, I know some people like Matt Wallner as a local kid with power but I firmly believe he will never again be a regular starting outfielder for the Twins. He is that bad in the field. His only real position is as a DH, and his strikeout rate in the majors is over 35%! His strikeout rate it AAA this year is 27.7% and typically you add at least 5% to the AAA strikeout number to get what people are likely to do in the majors, so even if it's improving he still striking out roughly 1/3 of the time if he comes back. No team hoping to be competitive can afford to play a guy can't run, can't field, and strikes out 1/3 or more of the time. He isn't a free agent until 2030 so there's no chance that he "walks away for nothing" either. I hope the Twins give him a chance to reset by trading him to a bad team. I seriously doubt he will be back up starting in the OF with the Twins again.
  9. LA Vikes Fan
    Volpe and Comal is a lousy deal for Jeffers. Basically 2 guys who have failed with the Yankees. I'd much rather have prospects and I'm not a big fan of trading for prospects. I've seen a proposed Kyle Carr and Kaeden Kent package for Jeffers. That's way too little and that's better than this idea. This sounds more like clickbait put out by the Yankees. I've also seen a package of Will Warren and Hunter Dietz proposed. That's a little better but still seems a bit light. Frankly, if this is all Jeffers is worth to the Yankees time to say no and move on to Tampa or Seattle or , maybe even keep Jeffers around.
  10. LA Vikes Fan
    Me too. Wallner is too bad in the OF and strikes out too much to be a starter on a contending team. LH DH material at best and even that's stretch. Let's trade him to a bad team and give him a chance in a low pressure setting on a team that won't come back to bite us. I hear both Denver and Anaheim are very nice this time of year.
  11. LA Vikes Fan
    I think this is it. Kriedler isn't the long term starting SS; but he's doing well as a placeholder for Culpepper or Houston. I expect something of a time share from Aust 15 or so onward when Culpepper is up while they assess if Culpepper's Defense is good enough for short. If it is, Kriedler's the utility infielder probably this year and next. If the D isn't there but Culpepper hits, he moves to 2B, Clemens becomes a Super UTL, and Kriedler stays at SS until Houston is ready. Either way I see Kriedler on the Twins through at least 2027 unless he falls below the Mendoza line with no power. A quality fielding UTL who can play short at a high level and hit even a little is very hard to find so I think Kriedler gets every opportunity for the next year and a half.
  12. LA Vikes Fan
    I don’t think the thought is to trade Larnach and bring up Wallner to play that position. I think it’s much more likely that left field will become a Roden/Martin platoon, with Keaschall the every day RF . I think they would either call up Jenkins, but maybe Gonzales, to take the roster spot or make Clemens the extra outfielder on a utility basis, and call up another infielder, probably Tristan Gray. I don’t think Wallner is likely to ever be a regular outfielder again for the Twins because his defense is so bad and we have other options. I think his future in Minnesota is limited to a DH role. I think his realistic future is a trade to another team and a fresh start, hopefully with a weaker team that can let him play.
  13. LA Vikes Fan
    I think trading Jeffers is the right move, but I wonder if Tampa Bay is the right trade partner for what I want to do. I don't want to trade Jeffers for just prospects, even ones we think might be ready to help a little bit next year. I want to trade Jeffers for a pitcher who can help us this year in the rotation or the bullpen and who has control beyond this year. I am willing to add a high-end prospect to Jeffers to make that happen. From what I've read, Tampa is in the market for bullpen help itself so I doubt if they have the ability or willingness to trade us a 2026 pitching staff piece. Trading him to the Yankees is the same problem, they need pitching are so are unlikely to give us pitching we can use this year. I think Seattle might be a better trade partner. I am sort of willing to trade Laranch for prospects but it's hard to get excited about it unless they we get very good or elite pitching prospects and I don't think he will garner that kind of return. I don't think it makes sense to trade him for middling prospects or guys that are two or three years out. I think we keep Larnach.
  14. LA Vikes Fan
    They can make a splash without trading for a rental like Gausman, Kittredge, or May. Go for guys who have at least 1 year of control after this one, preferably more. Trade Jeffers plus a prospect to Seattle for Emerson Hancock, who has 4 years of control left. Or trade a premium prospect not named Jenkins or Culpepper, say Emma or GG, plus a 20-30 guy or two to the Angels for Reid Detmers or Jose Soriano, both of whom have two years of control left past this one. Expand the Angels trade by adding another prospect and get Sam Bachman, Chase Silseth, or Ryan Zeferjahn, Even better, add in Culpepper and and get Zach Neto. See what the cost will be on relievers with a least a year of control left after this one like Weaver, Tyler Wells, Jose Saurez, or Brennan Bernardino, and get one. Take some risk and go for a starter coming off of injury like Clay Holmes or a disgruntled starter turned reliever like Carmen Mlodzinski. For pitching, get at least medium term assets. Don't deplete the farm for rentals. My point is be willing to pony up for a pitcher you can keep beyond this year. We have a good system with some high end hitters that are ready and need opportunity. Use them to get the pitching we need, but only if its pitching that we can at least also use in 2027 or even better, also in 2028. You can augment that with a rental RH bat like Lane Thomas or at least a bat who can hit LH pitching even if they are LH like Luis Arraez. This team deserves help but not from rentals who deplete the system in a trade. Get some longer term help. Hey, we seem to be trying this. Nance isn't a free agent until after the 2029 season. Keep that kind of trend going.
  15. LA Vikes Fan
    I think Kriedler's closer to a .225 -.240 type guy with occasional power. His glove says starting SS, his bat screams utility guy. I see him holding down the fort at SS until either Culpepper or Houston is ready and then on the team as a UTL. Good glove, elite in the IF, above avg in the OF including in CF. Streaky and below avg hitter. Sounds like a solid utility guy that's the number 24-26 on an MLB roster. Nothing wrong with that for the next couple of years. Besides, he's a lot better at both in the field and at the plate than anyone else we've tried at SS this year.
  16. LA Vikes Fan
    I think you're right on Wallner. He really has little to no value to a good team unfortunately, since he can't field and strikes out 35% of the time. I hope for his sake we can get him to a non-contending team like Oakland (Sacramento? Vegas?) and maybe he can have a career renascence as High HR, no glove guy on a bad team.
  17. LA Vikes Fan
    You may be right. I keep thinking Jeffers has more value than he probably does given that he's rental. It might take Jeffers and Emma just to get Hancock. I'd still do that, but I'm nowhere near as high a on Emma as many are here. Seattle is lucky in the same way we are - there's no good team in their division. Short of a collapse they are likely to be in the division race in September. Also, with their starting pitching, they could actually make noise in the playoffs if they can get some offense. I think Jeffers might interest them.
  18. LA Vikes Fan
    I'm going to keep saying it to try to will this into existence: Don't trade Jeffers to the Yankees, trade him to Seattle! here's the trade: Twins get - Emerson Hancock and Jose Ferrer or Gabe Speiers Mariners get - Ryan Jeffers and Alan Roden, Emma, or Gabriel Gonzalez. Jeffers and Emma is an even trade according to BTV for Hancock and Ferrer, Jeffers and Roden or GG works for Hancock and Speiers if the Twins throw in a 20-30 guy. Alternative trade- Twins get - Emerson Hancock Mariners get - Ryan Jeffers, their choice of Henry Mendez or Ryan Gallagher i say let's do it.
  19. LA Vikes Fan
    Hey, I agree with you on Lewis. One key to the second half offense is gonna be him, Lee, and Keaschall hitting. Those three are the best of the complementary bats. This offense can be potent if those three hit to go with Buxton, Jeffers (if he’s still here). and Bell, with Clemens and Caratini pretty much wild cards.
  20. LA Vikes Fan
    By the way in no surprise, Paredes is on the 15 day IL, Prielipp activated. Sands also activated, but haven’t seen a corresponding move. I’m guessing Anderson back to AAA but don’t know.
  21. LA Vikes Fan
    I agree and think they can do better. If we trade Jeffers, trade him for Emerson Hancock of the Mariners. They need a RH bat, Raleigh is hurt and playing poorly so they need a C. Hancock is maturing into a solid #3/4 starter and has 4 years of control left. Given that Jeffers is a rental, Maybe the deal is Jeffers and a good prospect for Hancock and a decent reliever. Helps both teams.
  22. LA Vikes Fan
    I think they need to stretch Rojas out. He’s now the 6th starter unless we trade for one and Prielipp is good to hit an innings limit soon.
  23. LA Vikes Fan
    You watch Rojas pitch like he did tonight and you're reminded why we traded Varland for him. This guy could be a front of rotation LH starter as early as the second half of next year. Remind me I said that next time I advocate for him to go the bullpen. Offense looks tired but I think it's just guys coming back to earth. Clemens, Kriedler, and Larnach look their 2025 selves not the 2026 version, and Buxton, Bell, and Lewis just are not hitting. Caratini and Keaschall are pretty much it right now. Hopefully just a slump. Still, we need somebody to step up and get hot at the plate. Luis Arraez would look good in the lineup, particularly if we didn't have to give up a top 20 prospect for him.
  24. LA Vikes Fan
    I think that an excellent question and may be the ultimate question that drives the decision. I actually think they have a decent core, what I would call about 2/3 of a competitive team, with the ability to actually be competitive next season for the division title and Mohr in 2028. We haveThree or four starting pitchers, four guys in the bullpen, solid catching, a solid outfield, and two starting infielders. I think the real mismatch is you’ve got three or four guys who are in the prime or later prime parts of their careers (Buxton, Ryan, Jeffers/Caratini, Larnach, Lopez next year), mixed with some guys who are just starting their prime in Lee, Keaschall , Morris, Gomez, Matthews, with Prielipp and Rojas, plus Abel, not far behind. Luis is a complete wild card with a wide range of outcomes and Martin could be a solid fourth outfielder. That’s a start of a good core, but not enough where the addition of a few rentals does a whole lot. That’s why my thinking at the trade deadline is trade Jeffers for the best package you can get, and try to make controllable MLB talent like Emerson Hancock part of the return. I would also consider trading Bell and Larnach if you can get a prospect a year or two out who could be an average or above average MLB player. I just don’t think you can. I think you want to keep this team with enough talent so they can sort of compete this year as they learn so I keep Ryan and trade him in the off-season for MLB talent, not now for prospects. I would then aggressively promote Jenkins and both Culpeppers to see what else we got. I think the competitive window can be open for a division title in 2027 and be wide open in 2028, but not if you trade away all of the veterans now. If you keep them and we tank this year and start off slowly next year, then I think you go into the trade them all and rebuild scenario, but not yet.
  25. LA Vikes Fan
    It just seems like with the exception of the deal with Seattle, all of the listed returns were light for Ryan. I don’t want to trade him now, but I am realistic enough to know that he’s probably gonna have to be traded in the off-season if not now. What I want back for him is an established mid rotation starter with at least two or three years of control left, plus more. The plus can be high-end prospects, but the centerpiece of the return has to be someone we can immediately plug into the rotation not a pitcher who might be good three years from now. If we’re going to do that, then we need to trade anybody of any quality on the team and do a teardown and rebuild because otherwise we’re going to have mismatched competitive windows and just be frustrated. If we’re going to trade Ryan, Seattle might be the best bet but we need George Kirby or Emerson Hancock as the centerpiece coming back along with high end prospects that are at least at the AAA level. May be a deal where we got Kirby or Hancock, Arroyo, plus some high-end prospects for Ryan and Jeffers might work.Seattle needs a catcher badly with Raleigh struggling due to the strained oblique and unlikely to be anything this year and they also need right handed bats. Who knows, maybe he could even put a deal together where we got Kirby and Hancock plus prospects for Jeffers, Ryan, and Lesser prospects. Hard to find one that works frankly.
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