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  1. Then it is more than fair to say that an organization that had extended several players already talked to Pressley about an extending and was rebuffed, No one knows but yet they are perfectly willing to skewer the front office for not getting him signed.
  2. Baseless assumption that he would ever sign here. He did sign a contract with Houston. Given a chance to play with his home state team in a city his wife is from it should not be a shock he would sign there. People make the assumption it is all about money. Wheeler signed with an east coast team because that is where he wanted to play. You cannot assume just because he played here he wanted to
  3. I have never said the team had no intention of bringing him back. I laid out the case earlier of what could have get down. The retort was that I had no proof of that. My assumption, short version, they tried to extend him and couldn’t so they traded him. Yup, Pressly went on to be better. Changed his pitch mix. There was a quote from Pressly that is telling. He said that there was no difference in what they were telling him to do in Minnesota than Houston. The pitch mix changed. He did what Houston asked. Believe what you want. In the end the evaluation is first question would Pressly the next year did what the Twins asked to be better in a walk year? Probably. Second question Would have the return been any different if they had waited? 2 high ceiling players in the low minors is still the likely return. There is a better return when the FO of a front office really doesn’t know what they have. See Ynoa and Gil Third question. Is Celestino and or Alcala better than nothing, which is what you get when your free agent walks Celestino did not hit, Alcala was better than a lot of what was brought in You bring Santana into this. I never said a word about Santana. Brandon was the one who posted about returns for a rule V pick A different front office, really a different position than a reliever. If you were using my logic, you failed miserably because I look at the cases individually. I could care less that Pressly was a rule v pick. He was a decent relief pitcher. There is a reason Smith did not last as a GM. This front office had Berrios. Time will tell if they botched it as bad as Smith did. If I recall correctly, outside of Pelfry, who the Mets would not include in the deal, the players were the top ranked players in the Mets system. So far this FO has the good sense not to trade with a team with a bad farm system
  4. In hindsight people ignore the fact that the team had one year of control left with Pressly. Anything beyond that year is pure unprovable speculation as to what would have happened, In hindsight it ended up that it did not matter once the playoffs hit because the offense went belly up in the series who was in the back of the bullpen. Who one the trade? 2 players who have not yet shown they are busts versus one year of a reliever that would not made a difference in a playoff series. That is the choice in hindsight. In hindsight a very meaningless argument that gets played over and over again
  5. Just as you can say without a shred of evidence he would have signed here with an extension and altered his pitch mix here and pitched as effectively here as he has in Houston. Your logic, your way of being dismissive
  6. He was mot going to resign here. So they traded him. Sorry I did not write a book of short simple sentances
  7. You should be confused as you posted Pressley was like Pulhols. Perhaps had you read the complete exchange you wouldn’t be confused. Try some Donepezil. That should help you with your confusion.
  8. Pulhos is no Pressley, His pitches could nowhere near match what Pressley’s could do, The comp is strange
  9. I really don’t know how to explain it to you any better than that. There is demonstrable evidence that they signed players to extensions. They signed relievers to very generous contracts that really were not as good as Presley. That should be enough to give some insight, but
  10. The Twins signed several players to extensions. It is a safer assumption that Presley did not want to sign than he would want to. Considering the contracts they handed out to the likes of Colome and Reed among other relievers, the FO doesn’t appear to have a problem with paying wages. Whatever for the states of developing players. Shortsightedness is what it is.
  11. The way the season played out last year they might have called up Baddoo over Celestino
  12. That assumes that you could have signed Presley which is an assumption that is totally strawman. They would have had one more year of Presley. Alcala is more than capable of being what was Presley was with the Twins. What Celestino is going to be is not yet determined. Where is it ever been documented that baseball performance is a bell curve?
  13. I don’t think it is unreasonable to think a guy with a big tattoo of Texas on his back, grew up in Texas and married someone from there would have went there once free agency was an option. The Twins did more than good to get the talent that they did get from Houston versus losing him for nothing
  14. https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/player-scroll?player_id=572193#pitchTypes They say he does.
  15. Rodney 9 million, Romo 5 million Colonel 6.25, Reed 16 million. The FO has spent money on relievers
  16. After rest and PT he should be fine. There was no reports of a tear like Dobnak
  17. Taylor Rogers, All Star reliever has limited upside and not an asset. Perhaps his flaw is that he is a pending free agent and over 30
  18. Greinke is not a journeyman pitcher. Any less a master of the craft of pitching Greinke would have been put to pasture. Respect the knowledge or understand the terms
  19. Try reading up on NFL draft success. Outside of QB which shows a slim success rate for starters after the first round, more is better. The thing is is that these players are nor prospects. They are what they are, which is a little less than league average pitcher This is an analytic driven FO. The numbers will tell you of likely outcomes. That is what there is the actions or inaction that you see from this front office
  20. Very poor analogy with the football draft, After a certain point you are drafting lottery tickets. The more you have, the better the odds. This is trading for league average or worse starters. Two very completely different things. You would not go with quantity. They are who they are for players. They are not going to morph into an front line starter
  21. Albers isn’t available; anymore? Any of these pitchers wouldn’t cost more than a Placios kind of player so why not. Only Houston has an excess of pitching and the Twins moved on from Odorizzi for a reason. The other 2 teams would need good reasons to trade. A low level prospect isn’t going to work even if the teams were trying to tank.
  22. A rotation for the present and future with the caveat of if healthy
  23. 10 out of the 20 of the list were pitchers. 8 of them made it to the majors..
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