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  1. I haven't paid attention to Stroman this season, but saw his ERA around 4 this year. I didn't look into the deeper stats. I think getting a good southpaw for the rotation would be a nice change of pace from the bargain barrel leftys we've seen in the rotation lately like Rich Hill or J.A. Happ. I think a ground ball lefty would play better considering HRs are easier to hit to left field than right in Target Field. Righty batters may feast on a fly ball lefty at home otherwise.
  2. I don't believe Gray or Maeda will be in a Twins uniform in '24. Gray will get paid in FA for the first time and Maeda is 35-36 and IMO not worth the $10-20M it will likely take to sign him. If we could bring him back on another incentive heavy $3-4M contract, I'd go for it, but I expect he'll want guaranteed money. That leaves the rotation as Lopez, Ryan, Ober, Paddack, Varland. IMO a #2-3 starter is needed to fill out that group and push Varland to AAA to start the season. This off-season I'd kick the tires on Luis Severino, Aaron Nola, and Jordan Montgomery, and if Eduardo Rodriguez and Marcus Stroman opt out, I'd also add them to the list. Figure out who you can sign on a 2-3 year deal while still looking for a right handed OF bat. Otherwise it's time to trade from the older core to bring in younger controllable pitching, similar to the Arraez for Lopez trade last season, but this time with either Kepler or Polanco, who I believe are both on expiring deals in '24.
  3. The counterfactual is that Buxton actually could play the outfield. He can't. He hasn't all year, not because of a hammy but because of his knees. Why would another month+ change that after over 6 months of him being unable to play outfield? When I say "dreaming on the counterfactual" I'm saying your speculation of Buck potentially playing the OF had no basis in reality. It was just dreaming on what could be if he was healthy, which he's not and hasn't been all year.
  4. The fact that he played CF for what, 1 game on his rehab assignment and wasn't added to the playoff roster is a pretty good indication he cannot play in the field, so IDK what we're talking about here other than dreaming on the counter-factual...
  5. Not sure one can rely on Paddack after returning from a 2nd TJ procedure. Even before his injury last season he's been more of a back end 4th or 5th starter. One would hope Ober could pitch more innings next year than this year, but I'm not sure we could rely on him for a playoff start next season, considering how he faded this year towards the end of the season. The starting pitching depth this season has been very necessary and the list of depth starters you posted seems to have extremely high variance in what we could expect. I'm not convinced Varland can control the HRs as a starter so I'm not sure he can be counted on for a full season's work at starter. Do I think the Twins will need to acquire a frontline starter in the off-season? That's probably not necessary, but I'd like to see them acquire one more 3rd starter type to hedge against injuries and the potential that some of the depth you listed doesn't perform.
  6. At least 2 issues here if I disregard all the hedging with "maybe" and "might" A) Buxton's contract isn't a big contract. He makes around 15M/yr. He's making about 5M more than Vasquez, or 4M more than Gallo. B) How would they have done more homework on Buxton? He's literally never been outside the Twins system. You could potentially argue they made a bad gamble if you somehow think Buxton's contract is too big, but you certainly can't claim they didn't do their homework.
  7. You're basing this on a comment from a year ago when he was playing like the high end product he compared himself to, and a bunch of assumptions like Miranda would've hit better without his mentorship, or Buxton would've been better in CF, or Popkins is the reason the team can't hit. Correa hasn't hit at all like anyone expected or would be happy with, himself included, which he's stated publicly in as humble a manner as I've seen from a professional athlete. Explain how one can "pad stats" in baseball. Unless he took all his September at bats vs position players, he's simply performing. Claiming performance doesn't matter because the rest of the team fell apart is extremely silly in the context of baseball. Treating a leader on the baseball field the same way one thinks about a franchise QB in football shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the game. No need for analytics to show the lack of logic in your opinion. It's obvious you didn't like the Dior comment a year ago, and your opinions going forward are informed by that more so than anything that's happened since. So I ask again, other than not making the Dior comment a year ago, what more could he do to show humility? He's taken responsibility for not only his own poor performance at the plate, but a lot of the team's struggles as a whole. What should he be doing to show the humility you think you deserve?
  8. I'd like you to provide an example of his lack of humility. From what I've seen of him this year, he's been extremely humble and had taken responsibility for his lack of offensive production publicly. What more are you expecting from him in the way of humility? As to the idea that a hot September last year is meaningless, I think you're completely wrong. One player can't make or break a baseball team if the rest of the team doesn't perform. Look at the Angels. Had the rest of the team performed in September, they'd have won the division and we'd have praised Correa for leading them to it with his strong September play, performing exactly when the team needed it. Instead you're saddling Correa with the idea that his good play didn't matter because of the rest of the team's inability to perform. Neither of these reads is correct in my opinion. Blaming or praising a single player for team success is silly at best, foolish at worst.
  9. Ever played CF Frank? You do a lot more running than 2.3 outs per game. Obviously everyone would prefer him in CF, but you're minimizing the amount of effort and physical stress playing CF puts on a body. That's why it's considered one of the 2 most demanding defensive positions on the field...
  10. I totally get where the "I want Buxton in CF" crowd is coming from. We all miss watching him out there. But are y'all watching the games? He is obviously not anywhere near 100% and there's probably little hope he ever gets back to 100% of what he was in 2017. We can be disappointed or even angry, but getting angry with the FO or Rocco or Buxton, or other fans for that matter, doesn't make anything better, even if you find catharsis in venting on TD. We live in a world where Buxton's knees prohibit him from being physically well enough to pay the outfield. Being mad about it or at others doesn't change it, thinking you know better than the staff the Twins pay to make those decisions doesn't change it, though it probably means you're wrong. Best thing you can do is try living in the reality we have and try to enjoy the frustration that is Twins fandom or stop following a team that will disappoint you more often than not. Go become a Dodgers fan or something, there's usually plenty to cheer about with bigger market teams.
  11. In fact, here's the latest quote from June 20th, since I can't expect y'all to click a link and read more than a tweet... “Do I think there's a chance this year? Sure, there's a chance this year,” manager Rocco Baldelli said. “Do I know what's going to happen? I absolutely don't. Nothing has really gone up or down on that scale since the beginning of the year. It hasn't gotten closer. It hasn't gotten further away. It's basically in a similar spot.” There you have it. The only thing missing is Do quoting Dumb and Dumber, "So you're saying there's a chance!" They aren't closing the door on Buxton playing the outfield this year, but DHing has him treading water physically, not improving as they'd hoped. If half a season not playing OF hasn't improved his knees, are we really so foolish to think he'll get better over the break and be ready to go 0-60 in the OF and make the catches we all love to see? Obviously that's silly. Now we can close the book on these "just put Buxton in CF" threads, right?
  12. Well the issue is that y'all are making assumptions based on tweets from March or timelines from April. Here's an update, since you guys missed it... https://www.mlb.com/news/byron-buxton-still-not-healthy-enough-to-play-center-field?partnerID=mlbapp-android_article-share Keeping that link in my clipboard for the next "Why isn't Button playing the OF" thread... 🥱
  13. Where are you finding any info stating Buxton was "scheduled" to go back into CF? I read a lot of reports stating the Twins "hope"was for him to play CF, but nothing that indicated anything beyond hope. I think you're over-thinking the issue. They're managing Buxton's load with a mind toward the next 5 years of the deal as well as keeping him in the lineup this season as much as possible. Simple as that.
  14. Buddy, what's silly is not realizing the difference between running the bases for 90-360 feet every hour or two vs playing the outfield and running all over the field PLUS running the bases. It's extremely straightforward, obvious, and logical that the amount of running involved increases quite a bit playing the outfield. Load management, look it up.
  15. I think you're stuck on the idea that is is a specific acute injury rather than a chronic problem that needs constant management/maintenance. The Twins are obviously choosing to keep him in the lineup because they believe it's the best choice after considering all the factors we've gone back and forth about. Buxton has always been a streaky hitter, and riding through the slumps to get to the streaks is the game I believe they're playing. So far Byron has come back from each slump, whether it's mentally or physically induced, and produced at the plate. I imagine, like Sano, at some point it's no longer worth going through the valley to get to the peak, but I don't think we're there yet.
  16. You were just bemoaning the idea of watching Willi Castro in CF. He's obviously more capable in CF than Buxton right now. You went from bemoaning the fact that Buxton isn't in CF and batting, to saying they should just completely bench him for someone more capable. Do-Hyoung Park just dropped a good article on the subject. https://www.mlb.com/news/byron-buxton-still-not-healthy-enough-to-play-center-field?partnerID=mlbapp-android_article-share
  17. As a fan base, we should be well aware that an IL stint isn't necessarily a fix all and that some issues are not able to be "fixed". Some stuff is chronic and not fixable. Byron has knee surgery last off-season to try to clean up some stuff in his knee or knees (can't remember if it was one or both) and that obviously didn't make a huge difference. If it could be "fixed" I'm sure that would've happened toward the end of last season. I think your expectations are out of line with the reality of the situation. This isn't a video game where an IL stint fixes all ailments and then player is back to 100% of what they were. The Twins obviously realize this and have opted for what they view as the next best option, which is to try to rest him and manage his load to keep his bat in the lineup as much as possible.
  18. He's literally already hurt, and you think the answer is to have him run around in CF? You think he's in a physical state to play Platinum Glove defense? Not sure what broadcast you're watching man... You won't get any argument from me that he's been a non-factor at the plate most of the season, but putting him in CF will end his season real quick, and then we'll be watching Willi Castro anyway. And to your point, the team obviously has a lot of issues and we've had a lot of Willi Castro so far. If Byron is pressing because he isn't in the field, which I'm happy to acknowledge as a real possibility, then it falls to the coaching staff to help him get his head and approach right. Sure, putting him in CF could potentially help his mental approach, but at what cost? And I don't mean for just this season. Again, there is half a decade left on his contract.H ow many games in CF this season are worth 5 more years of his bat? I mean do we really think the Twins wouldn't prefer him playing CF and do we think they aren't asking themselves the risk vs reward question? Believe me, I'm very disappointed at his production and that he's unlikely to ever be well enough to pay a majority of games in CF again, but we have to be realistic and logical about the reasons things are playing out the way they are. I can assure you the Twins want Byron able to play CF more than we do.
  19. Explain to me why you believe his struggles at the plate are in any way linked to playing in the field or not. What's this based on other than wishful thinking? I'll posit the idea that his knees are the reason he isn't producing at the plate, and I've got half a season's worth of game video as evidence. His knees were completely messed up last season, and go figure, they haven't magically healed to the point where he's the 2017 version of himself. Knees don't generally get better with time, especially for professional athletes, and especially for those 30 and older. From what you've seen of Buxton this year, how many games do you imagine he could play in CF before the wheels fell off? It's a real question those advocating for him in CF should ask themselves. How many games would you expect to see him for in CF? Do you believe getting injured or wearing out his knees in CF make the next 5 years of the contract more or less valuable? The answer is obviously less. That's the point I'm making.
  20. The number of people advocating for Byron playing CF is baffling to me. Are you all watching the games or just looking at box scores? What about watching Buxton run the bases leads you to believe he'd be able to play CF this year? My knees hurt just watching him get up after a slide into 2nd, and it's obvious they're hurting him too. Byron has like 5-6 years left on his contract. Using him as DH isn't just to save his knees this year guys... The Twins want as much production from him over the course of the contract as possible. Watching him ruin his knees and risk greater injury isn't the path to get the. Does he play 50 games in CF before he literally can't anymore? 60 games? 20…? They're playing it safe because keeping him off his feet helps keep him in the lineup. Whether or not he's a value add in the lineup at the moment isn't the main thing informing the decision to keep him at DH.
  21. Do you really think Rocco is making the decisions on who gets DFA'd? He may have input, but I guarantee he's not the decider in roster moves.
  22. Gallo has been better at 1st than I expect Kirilloff to be. That said, if Gallo moves back to the outfield (preferably taking over for Kepler in RF) it would be a bit of a step down defensively but probably a net positive for a team that needs to hit more consistently. The problem here is that the Twins seem to view Kepler as much more valuable than his batting numbers suggest, and unless they get the right trade offer, are unlikely to part with Kepler or put him on the bench. Personally, I'd like to see them trade Kepler for middle relief help, but I don't see that happening.
  23. Because every human being deserves security dude... Baseball players are still people.
  24. I agree with everything in the article except for one small quibble. "Dealing for Pablo Lopez, re-signing Carlos Correa, and bringing in Kyle Farmer all drew headlines. The acquisition of Taylor, though, could provide the most significant dividends and ripple effects for the Twins." I'm my opinion, signing Correa is hands down the most significant move and will provide the most significant dividends and ripple effects. All the depth ripples out from having him at SS for the long haul. I'm not convinced the Twins make the other depth moves, including acquiring Taylor, if they'd not won the Correa lottery. Again, I'm nitpicking, and wholeheartedly agree Taylor will be a key and underrated player for this Twins team. I'm excited to see him and Buck patrolling the outfield together, hopefully soon.
  25. I agree they've learned from the issues experienced last year, but I'm not sure you're right that they've not admitted it. I'd say they're moves including trading for Malhe at least year's deadline equate to a tacit admission of those mistakes, even if not explicitly stated to the media. Rocco isn't going to throw the front office under the bus, not should he. Beyond showing through their actions that mistakes were made, I'm not sure what more one could reasonably ask for... You're not going to find many people in any industry that come out and say, "We completely screwed the pooch last year and we're sorry." Not saying it wouldn't be nice or cathartic for the fans, but also seems like a good way to undermine trust, regardless of the organization or industry.
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