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  1. Hmmm... Do all the naysayers out there still believe that Lopez and/or Ryan will be a part of the rotation next year? Do all the naysayers still believe the Twins will carry a payroll north of $100m? Everybody that is suggesting that the Twins will spend this offseason has not been paying attention. You have to truly look at Ober and Larnach as move candidates as well. The only move that would really surprise me would be Jeffers because of positional scarcity.
  2. You need to look at the context of the discussion. The question was whether the return was aimed at 2026 or 2028. My response was that it was dependent on the trading partner. It had nothing to do with what was coming back in return.
  3. Your entire premise is based on the idea that ownership is more concerned about winning than finances. Please name one thing that has happened in the last 18-24 months that supports this. Lopez is 100% gone either this offseason or early next season, depending on when he shows he is healthy. Ryan is 98% gone because he is a relatively inexpensive SP1 on a 70-win team that is not actively trying to compete. He will be moved for prospects with an eye towards the future. The only reason the 2026 payroll will be over $100m next year is if they count Correa's dead money. Spending on relievers, spending on 1B... Does anyone think they will spend on anything this offseason?
  4. They are being traded for salary reasons, so expect prospects. How close they are depends on the trade partner.
  5. I do not agree. I have already seen multiple outlets scuttlebutt saying they fully expect the Twins to have the lowest payroll in baseball next year. If the Chicago White Sox can languish at $80m in payroll, why would the Twins be given a higher bar?
  6. Lopez and Ryan will be moved in the offseason, that is as close to 100% as you can get right now. "If" all 20 of the Twins prospects, 1st, and 2nd year players excel, then the Twins will be poised for success in 2026.
  7. Larnach is still auditioning for a spot. He is young, cheap, and the bigger names behind him are not ready yet. Clemens is auditioning for a spot. Him having success this year puts him in line for a 1B/utility role next year. Gasper (believe it or not) is auditioning for the backup catcher role next year. The Twins need to see what he brings defensively behind the plate before jettisoning him (they know what Pereda and Cardenas bring to the table). McCusker, Keirsey, a handful of other guys are the ones that could be DFA'd, as they have no real future Minnesota. They are the textbook definition of organizational depth. My guess is that because the Twins will probably have the lowest payroll in MLB next year (after trading Ryan and Lopez), Fedko will be given every opportunity in Spring Training to find a spot.
  8. Wallner has played himself out of a lock, but he is still cheap with potential. 1B would be a waste of his arm, but might be his best long-term opportunity. As of now, the only real OF lock is Buxton, everyone else can play their way into or out of a position. I could easily see the Twins giving Fedko a shot. I am not worried about age, history is littered with many players that did not blossom until their late 20's. He is not really hard-blocked by anyone (though there are flashier names ahead of him). His secondary numbers may give pause, but if he continues to find a way to provide average-ish offensive production to go with his average defense, he will find a spot somewhere.
  9. As everybody seems to forget, professional athletes are human beings, not robots, and that professional baseball is a job in entertainment, not a true athletic competition. In a game where extremely small things determine success or failure, extremely small things can impact how people play. When you are in a bad mood or a negative environment, are you always producing 100% at your job? Culture, to some degree, is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Winning perpetuates a positive culture, while losing perpetuates a negative one. You can have the best "culture" people in the world, but that does not always translate to success. The reverse of that statement is also true. As a decades-long sports coach, I can tell you that leader impact on culture is important, but not as important as the individuals within that culture. Rocco could be the best (or worst) at building a culture, but how the players navigate that culture is all that matters. You can have a laid-back atmosphere that wins, especially if the players stay positive and work to succeed. I am more curious as to how the organization works to get the best out of their players? I am not talking coaching, but more of the little things. The Vikings consistently rate as one of the top organizations for incoming players because of how the players are treated, creature comforts, facility, etc. When Chris Paddack got traded he publicly destroyed the Twins in this area. To me, that says a heck of a lot more about the organizational view towards money and players then any fan perception.
  10. If Tait continues to hit, you have to wonder if they will keep him behind the plate or work him into 1B/OF. Strong hitting, durable catchers are pretty rare. It will be interesting to see how they handle him as he moves up the system.
  11. My comments have never been personal. I have never met him. Professionally, I challenge anyone to find someone worse on radio or television for an MLB team. I have absolutely no idea why anyone likes him in a color role, much less give him 3+ innings a night on play-by-play.
  12. He never had it to begin with. I challenge anyone to find a worse color/play-by-play guy on the radio.
  13. Of all the negative issues currently swirling around the Twins, this has to be at least 47th on the list of concerns. Maybe lower, but only because it is a very long list.
  14. I 100% agree with your take on indifference. Without getting into the discussion of the good/bad view of Falvey/Rocco, I do not think making a change at either/both of those positions moves the public perception needle. Less die-hards want to see successful players, cheaper tickets, the ability to find the game on television, positive national recognition.
  15. I am gonna jump in here before the comments get turned off for the incoming hate. First - Clickbait title. There is no way to positively spin the announcement today. Second - When your fanbase is destroyed, preaching stability as a good thing boggles the mind. Third - The last 9 months of happenings in the Twins fandom world were only tolerated because the light at the end of the tunnel was new owners. That light has been extinguished. Unless demonstrative actions are taken that show ownership is trying to improve the team/product/media situation, the vitriol will continue to grow exponentially. (changing Falvey/Rocco does qualify as a demonstrative action because any new hire will still be bound by the same limitations of ownership)
  16. Yeah this stinks. Considering how horribly the pr through this process has been handled, I am not going to put a lot of stock in any announcements, just wait to see what actions are being taken. My main question: To everyone that says you are now done with the Twins... does that mean we will not see your posts anymore?
  17. Yeah, lets burn their service time in a lost season, this makes perfect sense.
  18. I don't think this is the time to panic and be all doom and gloom about... well... anything. The only point of the rest of this season is to play out the string and see what the youngers can do. This discussion needs to be tabled until at least next Spring Training when we will know if the Twins are making an attempt to be playoff competitive.
  19. The first one through the wall always gets bloody. How was Tampa received when they rolled out the one-inning starter. A main problem I see here is how to price these players? How does a 4 inning "starter" improve salary through arbitration when the entirety of arbitration is based on comparison and history? When they approach FA, how will they be received by the market? Anything that potentially impacts their salary in a negative way will not go over well. The same argument goes for incoming FA SP. How much complaining was there here when the Twins had Sonny Gray and didn't want him to go through the order 3 times because the statistics showed his ineffectiveness 3rd time through? I am not saying this is a bad approach. With the focus on max speed, spin, and effort, it seems like a logical step. However, the secondary consequences need to be thought about as well.
  20. Not arguing with your view. The remainder of the offseason should tell the story. If Ryan/Lopez get moved, then I am in complete agreement with you. If not, then we are back to the same discussion about "how many pieces away are they from competing for a playoff spot?"
  21. What is the context of your ranking? Is it player based? ? How are you rating the prospects coming back? Is it from similar trades? Is it your gut feeling? Given the variables of the team and the unknowns, other than the Varland move (which feels like you graded based off of emotions) I can't see any move being less than a B or B-. Finances ruled the day. Teams saw that everyone was being moved so they started to lowball all the trade offers. If this started a week ago, the returns may have looked different. The Duran trade only looks worse because of the Miller trade, otherwise everyone would be crowing about it. Correa gets a B in a bubble, but will be an F by next spring when that money is not reinvested back into salary. All of that being said, the common knowledge comment: We will not truly know the success or failure of these trades until 2028-2030.
  22. What does the public not know? Trades like this get made, spin is put out by the team to address perception backlash, stories are written about the travesty of the trade, a few days pass and life goes on. Why was the trade made? What are the real reasons Varland was moved? We-as-fans will probably never know.
  23. Any statements coming out after the fact are 100% spin. To expect him to come out and say anything negative is naive. Word is trickling out that the Jax and Varland moves were made for culture reasons. Jax even requested a trade after talking to Correa about the team direction. Of course Falvey had a role in this, but no GM wants to destroy a team and rebuild. My "insistence" revolves around the fact that virtually every story, every comment, puts all of the blame of Falvey for the negative fallout. The money aspect of this teardown, the impending sale, and ownerships role in this process is being virtually ignored, while every writer and commenter is taking the opportunity to bash Falvey as much as possible (reference your Derek St. Peter comment as example #1). I would love to see some balance and a tad of objectivity (or at least empirical data) in at least a few articles. I see bashing on the prospect return, yet nothing about how these types of trades have worked out in the past. There is bashing about how the Twins do in prospect development, but no information about how they compare to their contemporaries. Are they better? Worse? Have they done a better job than their predecessors in this regard? How about a little reporting into how involved the Pohlad's were in this process? Nope. Just ride the emotional wave of "Destroy Falvey!"
  24. Julien is a prime change-of-scenery candidate. He has the offensive tools to be useful, there are probably a handful of teams that think they could "fix" him. Miranda's situation is worse. Somebody may take a flier on him, but I have a hard time seeing him in the organization in 2026. Martin still has a window, but it is closing extremely fast. The Twins have a glut of prospects that may steamroll him as early as Spring Training 2026.
  25. This. We will see the Julien and Miranda types as the clock is ticking and the organization wants to know where they are at, possibly getting them exposure for an off-season move. Do not expect to see any real prospects come up this year.
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