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Projecting the Twins’ 2025 Opening Day Roster, v. 3.0
arby58 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The hyperbole related to SWR is completely unfair. Last year, in 28 starts, he was 'knocked out in the first 3 innings' exactly one time, and that was his last start of the season. Before September, these were the numbers of innings pitched in the games he started for the Twins: 6, 5, 3.2, 6, 4.1, 5.1, 4.2, 5, 4.1, 6.1, 4, 6, 5.1, 5.2, 6, 4.1, 6, 3.1, 4, 7, 5, 5, 4.2. Further, his WHIP last year was 1.294; the MLB average for starting pitchers was 1.270 - hardly something that would 'lead the league in WHIP.'- 58 replies
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Projecting the Twins’ 2025 Opening Day Roster, v. 3.0
arby58 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Looking at their stats from last year, it's hard to reach the conclusion that Tonkin will 'likely be miles better' than Scott Blewett. Granted, Blewett only threw 20 1/3 innings, but 1.77 ERA and 1.230 WHIP that turned into a WAR of 0.8 isn't bad. Tonkin, between his appearances for 3 MLB teams, was -0.1 WAR, 3.63 ERA and a WHIP OF 1.261. Granted, he did it over 79 1/3 innings, but I'm missing the 'miles better' statistics.- 58 replies
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Projecting the Twins’ 2025 Opening Day Roster, v. 3.0
arby58 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
SWR proved it last year and put up a 2.0 WAR. His ERA was well under 4.00 until a series of 5 bad starts in September to end his year. Festa showed flashes, but he still ended up with an ERA close to 5.00 and a WAR of 0.4. He also had a series of short starts at the end of last year - and combined between AAA and MLB threw 124 2/3 innings, while SWR combined threw 147. I'd suggest SWR is more tested and more likely to be able to stretch out and get to something approaching Ober's 178 2/3 innings pitched from last year.- 58 replies
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Projecting the Twins’ 2025 Opening Day Roster, v. 3.0
arby58 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I don't know what more he needs to prove. It's not like he only did it for a month last year - 62 appearances and 71 1/3 innings pitched with 85Ks and a WHIP under 1.000 - those are not 'hold your breath' numbers.- 58 replies
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Projecting the Twins’ 2025 Opening Day Roster, v. 3.0
arby58 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Cole Sands has pitched in TWO spring training games, 1 2/3rds innings, given up 3 runs. Last year, in the regular season, he appeared in 62 games, 71 1/3 innings pitched, 85 Ks, 3.28 ERA and a WHIP of 0.995. I would bet the house that Sands is on the 26 man roster and is pitching in medium to high leverage situations.- 58 replies
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Projecting the Twins’ 2025 Opening Day Roster, v. 3.0
arby58 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I understand that, but they can be placed on IL - they do not have to stay on the 26 man roster the entire season.- 58 replies
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Projecting the Twins’ 2025 Opening Day Roster, v. 3.0
arby58 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Sands was one of their better relief pitchers last year, particularly in the second half. There is no comparison between Tonkin and Sands.- 58 replies
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Projecting the Twins’ 2025 Opening Day Roster, v. 3.0
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He can be put on the injured list.- 58 replies
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Projecting the Twins’ 2025 Opening Day Roster, v. 3.0
arby58 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
So far, the Yankees are giving Headrick a look. 3 appearances, 5 2/3 innings. He's struck out 10 batters (wow) but also walked 3. As a result, his WHIP is nothing to write home about (1.59). Only 2 earned runs for a 3.18 ERA. It will be interesting to see how he performs the rest of the spring. I'd probably also rather have him with the Twins than Tonkin.- 58 replies
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Projecting the Twins’ 2025 Opening Day Roster, v. 3.0
arby58 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I've yet to be convinced that Tonkin is worthy of a 40 man roster spot - let alone 26. He hasn't exactly been stellar in his 3 relief appearances so far in spring training. The claim that he is a 'rubber arm' isn't compelling, especially early in the season. Meanwhile, if they really like the looks of Castellano, as a 23 year old he has a lot more promise than a 35 year old reliever who was released by three separate teams last year (including the Twins). Castellano was a starting pitcher in the minors, on the rare occasion when they will need 3 innings out of the bullpen, he should be able to deliver it.- 58 replies
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Topa being down hardly changes that. The headliners are Duran, Jax, Sands, Coulombe, Alcala, Stewart. Topa and Tonkin are next in line (and I'd rather have Varland than Tonkin).
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He's got to be seeking a raise, and he made $11.5 million last year. He's 40 years old - seems like a lot to pay when the Twins have a pretty good front end of the bullpen already.
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I think you just throw last year's stats away with Varland - the disastrous start to the season messed him up. If you go back to 2023, down the stretch (in games that mattered, including two play-off appearances), he was electric as a relief pitcher. In 7 appearances during the regular season, it was 12 innings pitched, 1.50 ERA, 17 Ks and 1 walk - for a WHIP of 0.583. Then two relief appearances in the play-offs (each 1/3 of an inning) no runs allowed and an additional K. That's a might nice stat line. Agreed, small sample size, but it gives you an idea that he isn't just a 'number eight' arm in the bullpen. I would be shocked if you can find a stretch like that for Tonkin, when games really mattered. He's just another arm, where Varland, in the right role, just might be special.
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Royce Lewis and One Last Chance to Stick at Third Base
arby58 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
He certainly could end up at 1B, as plenty of 3Bers have done in the past (paging Harmon Killebrew and Miguel Sano). He's tall enough to have a pretty good reach, you'd prefer he was left handed, but nobody's perfect. I'm still not completely sold on Lee, and maybe (between he and Keaschal) he is the less athletic and ends up at 2B. The other issue (not this year, but maybe in 2-3 years) is Correa will probably be moved off SS, and there again, 3B is where a lot of shortstops go in their later years. -
In 7 MLB seasons, Tonkin has pitched 3 innings 6 times, only one of which was last year. Last year, until their starting pitching went off the rails in early August, through the first 111 games, they had a 'true' relief pitcher pitch 3 innings only once (Matt Bowman went 3 innings in a mop up role on April 15th). There was one case where Okert 'started' and went 1/3 of an inning, then Festa followed with 4 1/3 innings and one case where Paddock went 2 1/3 innings then Varland went 4 1/3, but otherwise just that 1 out of 111 games. You're keeping Tonkin around for that? Besides, it's not as if the Twins don't have relief pitchers who can go more than 1 inning. Through those first 111 games (I stopped counting after that) , Cole Sands did it 10 times, including 2 and 1/3 and 2 and 2/3rds appearances. Funderburk did it 7 times, Alcala 5 times - and, yes, Tonkin once. Even Duran did it. Keep a 'real' arm in the bullpen, not somebody you need to trot out for mop up duty once in a blue moon (even Dobnak did that last year).
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These sort of run the gamut of the types of players an organization can try to 'fix.' Gray was coming off probably his worst season, and his ERA dropped over a full run per game with the Twins - just a coincidence? Ryan was pretty much a one-pitch pitcher who hadn't been able to break out of the minors - that is not the pitcher he is now. Yes, Stewart was/is injury prone, but he was a reclamation project. If the Dodgers could see what he became in 2023, you really think they would have released him? 'Just needed a place to play' for Castro - he got as many or more plate appearances his last two years in Detroit as his first year in Minnesota. I guess they were all just luck.

