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If either of them would have signed for this the ink would have already been on paper IMO.
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Article: Keys to 2019: Buxton’s Emergence
Battle ur tail off replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Start and play him every day this season regardless of how he does. He has this year as a starter. If he can't figure out it, you use him as a defensive replacement and pinch runner going forward until he is no longer cheap to have around.- 42 replies
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Article: The Discard Pile
Battle ur tail off replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I understand where you are coming from. Of course you need a core of guys that are cheap and effective ballplayers before you go out and spend big. The thing is, your strategy requires another 5 years. And I have news for you. The 3 studs we are counting on, Lewis, Kiriloff and Graterol. Pick one, because one is all that will pan out. Low minors domination means jack squat in the grand scheme of things. Also, if your course is the way you see the Twins going, then why do they keep bringing in bargain basement guys? Low end free agents, etc? Why are they not trying to build this core further, give guys chances to step in a be a piece of the major league team? They are still thumbing through the index of castoffs and signing guys that barely move the needle, yet take up roster spots and then they end up losing pieces to 40 man roster decisions rather than seeing what they have. What I and other posters see is the halfway approach and how it both does nothing to contend in the present, and also nothing to see what you have for the future and it's frustrating.- 182 replies
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Don't agree. So what you are saying is that this team needs to wait for the perfect storm in order to add anyone with real talent? What is wrong with picking up a piece here, piece there. Even if you think your window isn't until 2020 and beyond? Is it against the rules to sign or trade for these 27-30 year old guys for 2-4 years so that they can be here to help now and into the future? If you really feel nothing will happen until 2020 or beyond, then roll with the young guys!! See what you have in some of those pitchers! Don't sign a never was, never will be guy that's 28 and never been any good, just let Mejia take the reigns he will cost nothing and give you the same or more results anyway! I'm always of the belief that there is a chance to add premium talent, if it is in your budget and the player is the right age, you should do whatever you can to get it. Quit hoping and praying so much. Just cut down the numbers of players you bring in, make sure they are guys you can count on producing, and fill in the gaps with your minor league system.
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Article: The Discard Pile
Battle ur tail off replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
You pay them all and win a WS. Or you can identify guys that you don't think you will need a trade them for the best prospects in the game. Having too much talent is never a bad problem to have.- 182 replies
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Article: The Discard Pile
Battle ur tail off replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
No, they weren't in on Darvish till the end. That is Twins speak for: we low balled a player and acted like there was a chance, when we knew damn well there wasn't. It's OK to go out a sign a stud and pay him big money. What is the point in grabbing 4 players for 32 million a year? How about, 1 or 2 players for that same money? Then fill in with your system. I am so sick of the Twins way of acquiring piles of mediocre players thinking that they will get lucky some time. You are better off bringing in less guys on higher money deals. That way you get real talent. Not fringe guys or guys other teams don't want any part of. Just bite the bullet for a change. It gets old.- 182 replies
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Twins really dropped the ball this offseason as far as relievers go. I thought they needed to go out and add at least one if not two high end guys. They should have gone out and got the best reliever on the market, whoever they felt that was for sure. Kind of boggles my mind that they are going cheap and trying to covert guys, catch lightning in a bottle types here. Guess I shouldn't be surprised though, it really isn't much different than Terry Ryan. Cheap, sign guys that aren't any better than what you have, etc etc.
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Yawn. Wake me up in 2025 when they even see AAA. Might end up turning out that way, but you sacrificed one of the better arms in your system to get them. Don't tell me they couldn't have resigned him if wanted after this coming season. I guess I'm just sick of always playing for the future. Letting go of guys like that in their prime for low, low minor league players will keep you in the perpetual rebuild. A ball and lower guys are always a crapshoot and I'd guess on the average, 20% or less of those prospects at that level every pan out. If those kids were AA cats dominating that level, I might feel a bit different about it. Maybe the Twins won't be good the next couple years and those prospects end up being a couple of players. Then it's a great trade. However, if the Astros get another year like last out of Pressly and one of those 2 doesn't end up being a pretty valuable piece, we lose.
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Article: Spending the Twins' Excess Cash
Battle ur tail off replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Almost gua-ran-fricken-teed. You think Chicago is gonna sit on their hands when they are ready? They have a decent season this coming season they will go out and sign or trade for the best pitcher and position player out there. Twins should be stacking up 25-30 year old players with high end talent right now. Instead they are looking dumpster and old boys on 1 year deals. Like it or not, the Twins are gonna still hinge on Buxton and Sano. Don't expect anything out of the A ball wonder kids either for another 2-3 years either. They just won't be impact players until then if they are at all. You've seen what guys coming up through our system do. It takes a few years for them to get acclimated no matter the talent level. Our Minor league system just hasn't been any good at preparing them. Let's hope at least that part of the organization is changing, if nothing else.- 47 replies
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That is why the damn cheapskates should have been signing 2 of the best relievers they could find. Or they should trade for them still. You have May and Romero. Either can start if someone gets hurt. Then you have Stewart, Gonsalves, and a whole gaggle of other guys that can fight for a start here and there. I'd ask Bucholz to come to spring training, but the rest, count me out 100%. I honestly don't think he would accept that kind of deal to a team like the Twins. He will get something guaranteed, or take a spring training invite to a contender before he comes here. Talent, high end talent on trades and FA or roll with the young guys. That is what I will preach. No use wasting roster spots on washed up guys, or guys that weren't ever any good anyway when you have a whole bunch of young ones waiting for their chance.
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I think because people watch the game and can see that he looks like he knows what he is doing. Kepler consistently takes good at bats. He walks a fair amount also and hits for decent power and is young. Add 20 points onto his batting average and another 15 walks and 5 HRs and you have a player that hits .250/.350/440 and is 25 years old. He also plays good defense. I don't know, of all of the hitters we watch, he looks like he is one that has the most room for improvement at the plate. He has a good approach right now.
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I don't feel like Sano being so far down on this list is fair. Especially when we all know you are gonna put a couple A ball players 1 and 2 who have just as much, if not more of a chance of washing out. Sano is top 5 IMO on this team. They will still rise and fall with Sano and Buxton the next few years. One difference between Buxton and Sano's hitting that I have seen with my eyes. When Sano came up, he was patient, didn't swing at junk, walked a bunch, then hammered pitches when he was thrown hittable strikes. He lost that somewhere along the line, but his OBP and walk rate in the minors suggest he is capable of that again. Buxton never had any patience(at the ML level anyway) looked lost, guessed almost 100% of the time. He is still looks like a high school hitter. No polish whatsoever. I feel like Sano will be back if he can get himself in shape and his head screwed on straight. Almost seems like it is mostly mental with this guy, hopefully he has grown up. I guess I don't ever feel like Buxton will be the type of patient hitter Sano CAN be. He can still be a good hitter, but he is gonna have to do it by making good contact and using his legs.
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This doesn't move the needle much? You are going to take a guy out of the lineup that OPS runs in the .650-.700 range and replace it with a guy that is in that .800-900 range and is also a patient, professional hitter with tons of pop. This moves the needle a pile. That list you named. It's Sano. That's it. The rest of them are nothing and bench players on a good team. If they get little to no playing time because of this signing, that's a good thing, not a bad one. Adding high end talent, however you can get it is never a bad thing. To your last point, let's say they do have a couple seasons like that. Fine, it's at least competitive baseball. Who says you have to go full rebuild in 2 years? Will Sano, Buxton, Rosario, Berrios, etc etc not be right in the middle of their primes then? Still controllable also.
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I like this. He is older but still one of the better hitters in the league. Finally a guy you can slot in at #3 or 4 and know what you are gonna(should) get. The price to me anyway, sounds more than fair. There is nothing to not like about this deal. If he pushes out some younger guy, I'm not mad as I don't see any of those guys as long term keepers anyway.
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I get where you are coming from, but I can tell you right now. For a real championship ballclub, you have Romero, maybe Thorpe. Romero it's plain to see this guy is nasty, just needs to develop a little more. The rest are fringe major league pitchers, average stuff, hard time commanding the ball, etc. We already know this, so why are we gonna waste a season, expose them to the rest of MLB, then get nothing for them when they bomb out? Identify guys that have good stuff, that project out as being successful and trade the rest of them. Put a package together while some teams still think these guys have value. Bring them all up next year to pitch to a 6-7 ERA and their trade value is GONE. Do they throw hard? Command pitches? Have a hammer breaking ball? If not, get rid of them.
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Rosario runs well. He plays the outfield well too. I'm not saying your idea wouldn't work, but I think the guy has plenty of speed to play a corner outfield spot, doesn't he?
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Article: Standing Pat as a Strategy
Battle ur tail off replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
What do you suggest as an option to get good ballplayers in here then? Wait for AAA help and sign washed up guys and dumpster dives? Why dive for junk? Why not let your home grown guys fill those holes if you are so confident in them? Save the money and use it for high end talent, rather than spread it out on alot of middling guys. I don't get what you want either. Will some FA deals or trades fail? Yep! They sure will. What about minor league guys? How many of these fail to produce? Lots, right? I don't think anyone here is opining that the Twins need to spend huge all the time, bring in the biggest free agents, etc. People just want talented players on this team. That might mean spending some money on a free agent once in awhile. Or "gasp" trading a few of your top prospects. Imagine the return they could have had trading Buxton and Sano when they were lighting up AA? HUGE This team hasn't produced a high end pitcher since Santana and really hasn't had a bopper come out of their minor league system either since Morneau. When there is a chance to get a young stud pitcher or hitter, I'm fine trading away a A or AA guy you think has a "chance" to be a stud. I'm also fine with signing a guy to a 3 or 4 year deal for big money. -
100%. Cruz gets on base and hits the ball a mile. He also guzzles down steroids and is good at hiding it so his old body can play for a bit yet.
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Article: What's the Plan with Tyler Austin?
Battle ur tail off replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'm really not sure why you say this. This Cron character doesn't inspire me at all. I look at him as another Logan Morrison, and I'm guessing that is what we will get. Strikes out alot, hits for power, no one wants him, dumpster pickup. Don't expect alot from this guy. Let him and Austin fight it out in Spring training. Put Cave in that group too. You can keep 2 of the three. None of the 3 of them are must haves. Let a couple win the job and one guy lose it. -
Article: Standing Pat as a Strategy
Battle ur tail off replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It's flat out silly to not go out and sign the 2 best relief pitchers out there in free agency. This can be done for a fairly decent price, and generally low on years. They should not be looking at guys like Soria, they should be ALL IN for Britton, Familia and Herrera, or whomever they feel are the absolute best guys out there. NOT, who is "value" or "payroll friendly". Get the best guys, period. Someone offers 3/40? Offer 3/55. Get some damn balls and bring in some studs that throw hard and strike guys out. Get the turds off your roster who just take up space and chew bubble gum out there behind the outfield fence.

