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Astros, Bauer, Pohlad's, Twins, Future of MLB
Battle ur tail off replied to DocBauer's topic in Other Baseball
Astros should be banned from postseason play for 5 years. They need the death sentence. That will take their organization and turn it into a wasteland, bring them to their knees. The players involved should have been suspended for half or all of this season without pay. They aren't hard on these guys at all. What is going to happen is that one of them is going to get hurt. I can almost guarantee it will happen. The sound bites coming from other players throughout the league certainly shows vitriol to these players and the Astros organization. -
Getting $10M better than getting a solid prospect?
Battle ur tail off replied to darin617's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I'm actually with you on this one. The offseason started out terrible. Many, myself included were ripping the Twins a new one. They have swung back around though and made some good adds. The Donaldson one was a huge addition. I will say though, that I am not all that excited about Maeda. I think he fills a need for them, but more for the next few years when the Twins are probably feeling they have a decent chance of not being able to retain some of our starting rotation. I still would have preffered they saved their bullets in order to bring in a higher ceiling starter, even if it took until the deadline. Who knows though? Maybe that is still their plan. If they are truly able to add a top of the line starter at the deadline, this would officially be the best player acquisition season in team history. I for one, would be willing to eat crow and would certainly feel like the prospect hoarding, cheap Twins are all but a distant memory. -
Not sure how I feel about this in total. I'd say it's probably a fair trade. Seems to me though, it could have/should have been worked with just a straight up Graterol for Maeda swap. Not sure why they would want to give up that draft pick + Raley for cash? That said, its another outfielder and he probably doesn't fit into any of our plans, the pick is kind of where I have a little pause. Twins will probably have to turn that 10 mil into pitching of some sort though IMO. Whether it is through another trade at a later point, a FA signing down the line, etc.
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2020 ST Rotation Primer/Falvey and Levine Era
Battle ur tail off replied to DocBauer's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
What do alot of the 2019 players and 2020 players have in common? Hardly ANY of them are from the Twins system. They've done a nice job of picking up players that can and have produced. At some point though, our system is going to have to bear fruit. Counting year after year on 30-35 year old pitchers is gonna come back to bite you sometime. -
Exactly! For Maeda??? No thanks. Graterol is already close to an overpay for this guy. Good gravy, there's a mountain of guys out there that profile like this Maeda dude. You want Graterol plus another top 10 prospect? Fine cough up Urias or Buehler then and have Boston eat all of Prices deal. Something. You want someone else, take your pick from a list of 5-6 guys outside of our top 20.
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What others are saying about the trade
Battle ur tail off replied to gunnarthor's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
That is why I said they may have to wait for the deadline for this type of arm to become available. -
What others are saying about the trade
Battle ur tail off replied to gunnarthor's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Could be which is why I'd have rather they packaged him up with someone else to go after a pitcher closer to Berrios than the type of pitcher Gibson or at best Odorizzi is. Might have taken waiting to the deadline to make this happen. -
Yes, I agree. If we have to take him back, I am not mad and the Twins are probably happy to keep that arm in the system too. But look on the flip side, one bad year paired with this happening(and the subsequent heavy look into his injury history) and he is worth nothing. I am guessing he ranks right in that 50-70 range in a top 100 list. I'm pretty sure that is the going rate for a player of Maeda's stature with that team friendly contract.
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Exactly. Not good. Now that these reports are out there, it has to get done. I'm not in love with this Maeda cat, but if Graterol isn't worth anything, then we really don't want him back. Especially if there are all these concerns. My guess, that is the reason the Twins were willing to trade him. They saw him as at best a bullpen piece. A bullpen piece that as of right now, has 1 pitch to throw and a good chance of being injured. I would have loved them to package up a guy like Graterol with another guy in our top 10 and go out and get more of a front end starter. That said, this cat might be one of those diamonds in the rough.
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Do you really think the Twins would empty their system like that?
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This is my hope all the way. To be honest, I am not really interested in the gaggle of #4 starters or reclamation projects bandied about on this site. Ray, Archer, Boyd, etc. Go get the big dog and pay what is needed to have him.
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Call them missteps when they sign the wrong players that are old. So far, the signing of Nelson Cruz last year was the best in baseball. He was fantastic. Donaldson is the other one. He was studly last year and likely is again for another few seasons. The rest of that list is low risk IMO. They aren't paying them much and they are on short term deals. Besides that, they are players that aren't what I would call "main" players they are counting on anyway. If they bomb out, DFA and move on. They are basically place holders with experience that may or may not work out.
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Trading for Price and Betts
Battle ur tail off replied to Twinsrule1991's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I just probably wouldn't even trade Lewis straight up for Betts. It'd be one thing if he was under control for another couple seasons, but one year of him isn't worth a ton IMO. Plus, it's likely he will be a greedy pig for his next contract and who is gonna want to pay him? Twins surely won't, nor should they. Red Sox are stuck with this. They are gonna have to either eat a large wad of money, or accept little to nothing for these guys if they want to move them. I doubt there's a team out there that would give up 2 high end prospects + in order to be able to fork over 120ish million dollars for one year of a great corner outfielder and a pitcher who may or may not even help this coming season, let alone the rest of his deal. My guess is that Betts is worth one guy in your top 10 plus another lottery pick. Price is worth no one unless they eat a decent chunk of his money.- 81 replies
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Trading for Price and Betts
Battle ur tail off replied to Twinsrule1991's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I'd rather they just look into what it would take to get Price. We don't need Betts. He's a great player, no doubt, but the Twins have lots of outfielders, that don't cost nearly as much. Have them eat half or so of Price's contract and we give them a prospect outside of our top 10 and I would be in.- 81 replies
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You're definitely a one way is the only way type of guy. Not every team's situation is the same. You can post about those generalizations on and on and it means nothing as it pertains to this current Twins club. Look at the Twins roster right now. I am certain that their top performers are very similar to your numbers you posted there. Most of our guys are home grown too. Always have been. Lots that were drafted, signed internationally, traded for as prospects, etc. It's OK to take a chance once in awhile and give up 1 or 2 top 10 guys. Do you trade from your system all the time? NO, it's not good practice. But to balance out and fill holes, it is acceptable IMO.
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What happens when your system is out of balance? Meaning, too many position players and not enough pitchers? What about when your ML lineup is all young, controllable and producing? Do we hang onto those prospects and just let them sit in the minors? Do we trade the guys on the MLB roster? When you are in dire need of pitching like this team is, I think it is imperative to trade from your position of strength to shore up a weakness.
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Right. I am with you. And Synergaard is just a name I threw out. I want one of those types of pitchers. Whether they can be had now, later or never is the question. I do however think that with as many position player prospects and young guys we have around, it wouldn't hurt to move 1-2 of them in order to get this type of player in here.
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I'm not sure it's that at all. I think when assessing those guys you named, there probably just isn't that #1-2 potential in any of them. Flat out the Twins just missed on pitching in quite a few drafts in a row plus they didn't really develop a whole ton of high end guys. What they did do though was hit on LOTS of position players. There are bunches of young guys that are productive right now in our system. The time is most definitely right to go out and trade from this surplus to strengthen a weakness. I honestly am of the belief that it would be better to use some of your better prospects and go after a true #1-2 guy. The Twins systems literally has quite a darn few pretty good prospects that giving up a Lewis + another top 10 wouldn't kill us. Especially since the core of this team is so young. I also don't really like the hope Robbie Ray is better than a #4 starter, or let's trade for Mathew Boyd type deals. A Syndergaard type, or someone of that nature would be who I'd rather see them target. Use your high end guys and bring back a high end guy. Preferably one that is a little younger and can be part of the core of guys we have locked up here for the next 3-5 years.
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It'd be nice, but Graterol 2020 vs Liriano 2006 are 2 totally different pitchers. One has a good fastball and maginal secondary stuff. The other had a good fastball and the best slider in the league and possibly in the history of baseball until he got hurt.
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Adrianza should and will not be removed from the 40 man roster. He is a huge part of this team. Every contending team needs a guy like this. He plays every infield position and takes tough at bats. I'm a huge fan of his. Seriously, the value this guy has to the team is rather large.
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Josh Donaldson, Bringer of Rings
Battle ur tail off replied to Matthew Trueblood's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
One thing that is so cool about this. Granted they are a little older now, but who is their right mind would ever predict the Twins to be employing both Nelson Cruz and Josh Donaldson at the same time? Add to that a guy that profiles very similar in Sano and we have 3 of the best power hitters in the game in our lineup. Unreal. -
Josh Donaldson, Bringer of Rings
Battle ur tail off replied to Matthew Trueblood's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'm not though really. He gives us great production for 2 years, then a 3rd year of marginal/average and a 4th year as a bench player, we are fine. This is how most free agent deals work. You are overpaying for the final years of their contract, while paying market rate for the first few years. This is a win now move. Coupled with the rest of a team that is young and producing and playing for peanuts, this shouldn't hurt them one bit. -
FEINSAND: Twins to Sign Josh Donaldson
Battle ur tail off replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Now making a trade for a starting pitcher becomes more of a reality IMO. I know now, I at least FEEL like it may happen. Whether it's now or at the deadline. This move is going to energize the fanbase and I'd guess the team as well. Go out and get that great starting pitcher and this would look like the best offseason of any team in the league I'd say. -
FEINSAND: Twins to Sign Josh Donaldson
Battle ur tail off replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
This is awesome news. Surprising to me and I’ll be honest I didn’t think they would do it. The most important part of this to me is that the front office just showed us that they WILL push the chips in when it is warranted. I have to eat crow on this one as I had been plenty critical of these guys and ownership. -
Whatever happens, I don't think it's smart to go to arbitration with him over that 375K. It just HAS to be that they are working on a deal with him, otherwise, to alienate your best pitcher would be foolish.
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