Why the Twins Are Looking to Trade for Help, Not the Future

2 minutes ago, old nurse said:

If you could argue the for reality of your statement I would love to hear it.

Put up your designs and thoughts as opposed to using ridicule. There can be quite a range of opinions and the thoughts are mostly split 50-50 on Twins Daily. State some specific ideas that you have or if you believe the Twins decisions are fine just say, the Twins are doing a great job of putting together their roster .... I like the current roster, etc. When you fail to offer a stance but attack you are painting yourself. I'm sure you have some solid ideas to share.

1 hour ago, tony&rodney said:

Put up your designs and thoughts as opposed to using ridicule. There can be quite a range of opinions and the thoughts are mostly split 50-50 on Twins Daily. State some specific ideas that you have or if you believe the Twins decisions are fine just say, the Twins are doing a great job of putting together their roster .... I like the current roster, etc. When you fail to offer a stance but attack you are painting yourself. I'm sure you have some solid ideas to share.

To recap what was said since you would appear to have not followed what I responded to, the comment was about the Twins maximizing profits   There has not been a single bit of evidence to support that under the Falvey regime. Since you wish to interject yourself into that conversation perhaps you would like to show how it is so. I put in my comment why it is not. 

Trade EmRod.  Please.  While he still has a little value.

On 12/13/2025 at 4:10 PM, mnfireman said:

'23 might be the high-water mark for this roster group, but your HOF SS had the worst season, by bWAR, of his career. What they got was career years from Jeffers, Castro, Julien, Lewis, Farmer, Wallner, and Solano; a big bounce back year from Kepler, and solid, steady play from MAT in CF. Polanco, despite injuries, was on pace for the third-best bWAR season of his career. They also had very solid SP, with five guys making at least 20 starts (of those, only Ryan had an ERA+ that was less than league average (97)), and had the second most bWAR in MLB (Ober had the highest bWAR in his career, Gray and Lopez each had the second best bWAR of their careers). They also had an above average BP (Duran, Pagan, and Stewart were very good), with the seventh best bWAR in MLB that season. 

They need a lot of things to go their way to have a successful '26 season by W-L record, but player development could be big the season.

For sure, player development could tack on a couple more wins.  But your post is sort of my point - the ceiling for this roster required not only significantly more talent and payroll, but a lot of stars aligning and things working out.  You didn't mention the fact that the rest of the Central was the worst division in the history of baseball that year.  

Sure, everything could click, the guys who had career years last year might repeat them, the guys who had bad years will have career years, the team will be as healthy as they were in 25, the young guys will come up and be stars...sure, it could happen.  And the team might win 80 games.  

If you ignore the Falvey word salad and look at what they’ve actually done it really doesn’t seem like they are trying this year. First off, they blew up their bullpen which they knew would take time to rebuild. They’ve signed nobody and made two very minor trades. Their actions don’t scream compete. I think the org philosophy is to try to win as many games as they can with a payroll less than $100 million. The Pohlads make their desired profit and the Twins win enough games to placate the masses. 

5 hours ago, twinstalker said:

Trade EmRod.  Please.  While he still has a little value.

That works if you find a team that is looking to acquire EmRod. Can you identify a team willing to trade for him? I have suggested numerous trades but I do not know if  either team would benefit from the ideas. Would Pittsburgh be interested in acquiring Emmanuel Rodriguez for Jared Jones? From past comments on Twins Daily i seem to recall that Jones has less value by a fair margin than Rodriguez according to BBTV. That doesn't mean much though. What are your ideas? 

13 hours ago, old nurse said:

If you could argue the for reality of your statement I would love to hear it.

We hold these truths to be self-evident.

3 hours ago, mluebker said:

We hold these truths to be self-evident.

To some the earth is flat. They use your same language. Amazing what people will believe 

18 hours ago, old nurse said:

To some the earth is flat. They use your same language. Amazing what people will believe 

Well, you can either believe your opinions and preconceptions or trust the evidence you see with your own eyes. I’m going with the latter.

4 hours ago, mluebker said:

Well, you can either believe your opinions and preconceptions or trust the evidence you see with your own eyes. I’m going with the latter.

Like I said, what evidence? Multiple posy’s, mo evidence.  

3 hours ago, old nurse said:

Like I said, what evidence? Multiple posy’s, mo evidence.  

If you think the Pohlads have been trying to put a team on the field that actually could win a pennant (much less a championship) for the past couple years, we’ve been watching different teams. The evidence is the team’s consistently mediocre performance—they aren’t even a wild card team anymore. The Pohlads seem more concerned about “the stadium experience” than the baseball being played there.

16 minutes ago, mluebker said:

If you think the Pohlads have been trying to put a team on the field that actually could win a pennant (much less a championship) for the past couple years, we’ve been watching different teams. The evidence is the team’s consistently mediocre performance—they aren’t even a wild card team anymore. The Pohlads seem more concerned about “the stadium experience” than the baseball being played there.

Again, where is the evidence that there is profit. Results on the field., the game day experience department are not a sign of profit. 

24 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Other than sell or buy, what other role would a team take on in a trade?

The recipient of what is available at a distressed sale price, or someone willing to se;ll what you overpay for.   The key word was seeking. Sorry, I might remember to put it ic caps next time so you notice what the subject of the sentence was, not the action of the subject 

2 hours ago, old nurse said:

Again, where is the evidence that there is profit.

Ah, that’s a different issue. This generation of Pohlads don’t seem to be as astute with their money as Carl.

So in that regard, you may be correct—even if they’re trying, they may NOT actually be making a profit, although it’s difficult to imagine they’re purposefully trying to lose money. If they were, one might expect them to actually spend enough of it to sign and put nine quality players on the field on a regular basis. But clearly that’s not on their to-list, either.

So if they aren’t trying to lose money, and they obviously aren’t trying to put together a championship team, they’re picking some kind of middle position. That, I was inferring, was to at least make the team profitable. If they aren’t doing that, it’s hard to understand why they’re in the baseball business at all.

28 minutes ago, mluebker said:

Ah, that’s a different issue. This generation of Pohlads don’t seem to be as astute with their money as Carl.

So in that regard, you may be correct—even if they’re trying, they may NOT actually be making a profit, although it’s difficult to imagine they’re purposefully trying to lose money. If they were, one might expect them to actually spend enough of it to sign and put nine quality players on the field on a regular basis. But clearly that’s not on their to-list, either.

So if they aren’t trying to lose money, and they obviously aren’t trying to put together a championship team, they’re picking some kind of middle position. That, I was inferring, was to at least make the team profitable. If they aren’t doing that, it’s hard to understand why they’re in the baseball business at all.

When I was a kid there was a rich guy talking to my dad. He was a wheeler and dealer in many areas. He was grousing a little bit on not making any money on a deal. He then stated “But I knew I wasn’t going to make any money on them”. So I asked him why he did it. His response stuck. “Not everything you do is just for the money”  Another guy who was a land broker said pretty much the same thing.. a house flipper said the same thing 

The other thing is that even if they are no taking a profit, they are still making money. There are articles out there explaining it.. Contact you knowledgeable tax attorney. Balmer saved 77 million in tax money owning the Clippers

it is a world most don’t live in.