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    Let's Talk About Who's Actually the Most Overrated Player in MLB


    Nick Nelson

    There's been buzz around these parts regarding the subject of overrated players, with Carlos Correa's name popping up as such in a recent player poll.

    That's pretty laughable, as Correa has emphatically underscored with his performance since. But if we want to actually talk about overrated MLB players, there's another name I'd submit, for the sake of making some broader points about modern baseball theory and analysis. (Not to mention Twins fan FOMO.)

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    As Cody Christie covered here last week, Carlos Correa's name appeared among the top three for "most overrated player" in a spring player poll conducted by The Athletic. It should be noted that relatively few players opted to answer this question, and Correa came in third with a mere four total votes. Still, his connection with this label does seem to hint at a wider perception gap.

    In the first round of MLB All-Star voting, released a few days ago, Correa ranked 10th among MLB shortstops. Tenth! For a name with that recognition level, who was having a good season even before the current torrid streak got underway, that is simply wild. 

    Star Tribune columnist LaVelle E. Neal III tweeted last week that "standards haven't been met" by the high-salaried shortstop, demanding more offense from a player who'd been well above average by virtually any metric. As Correa's current rampage got underway, Neal doubled down, even as his own newspaper ran a glowing piece full of clubhouse quotes marveling at Correa's exceptional leadership and culture-shaping impact. 

    It's very weird to see. When healthy, Correa is one of the most well-rounded players in baseball. A defensive whiz at shortstop; a disciplined and consistent offensive threat at the plate. He's among the slower middle infielders you'll come across, but that is literally the only significant mark against him in terms of player profile. He does everything well, on and off the field. Yet so many scribes and fans seem to undervalue him while waxing poetic and reminiscing for the days of a bygone singles hitter, who legitimately does only one thing well.

    That's right. I'm here to say that Luis Arráez is in fact the most overrated player in baseball, and I continue to believe that the Twins front office executed a master stroke by taking advantage of his inflated valuation to acquire Pablo López.

    Let's be clear: I'm not saying Arráez is a bad player, by any means. He's won two straight batting titles, and looks to be on his way to a third. He's just a very one-dimensional player. There's obviously value in making contact and hitting singles at an unparalleled rate, but the name of the game is overall production. In this regard, Arráez amounts to a pretty average player.

    Consider this: while Arráez is hitting a robust .318, his OPS (.733) is 13 points lower than that of Carlos Santana (.746), whose batting average is just .239. Minnesota's 38-year-old scrap-heap free agent signee has a significantly higher fWAR (1.1) than Arráez (0.7), who would rank 10th among Twins position players in that metric.

    You might feel WAR is overrated. You might feel Arráez's contact-oriented production is preferable to more of a walk-driven OBP and power-fueled OPS. I can buy into those beliefs, to some extent. But production is production, and there's really no argument for Arráez being vastly more productive than Santana (as one example), especially when you account for the chasm in defense. Your mileage may vary when it comes to fielding stats, but it's plain to the eye test that Santana is a good defender and Arráez is a very poor one, who costs his team runs. That has to be factored in. But seemingly, it's not.

    Arráez is currently the leader in All-Star votes at second base for the National League, edging Ketel Marte -- who's been immensely better through any lens other than batting average --  by 7,000 votes. I'm sorry, but that's the definition of overrated. And Correa ranking 10th among AL shortstops, behind Zach Neto and J.P. Crawford, is the definition of underrated.

    While I'm sure many will interpret it as one, this is not intended as a hit piece on Luis Arráez. I love Arráez! He's one of the most likable players around, and his style of play is enjoyable to me. It was awesome that Correa recently credited conversations with Arráez for helping enable his success this year. The point here is more about the continually exaggerated perception of batting average as a standalone measure of value, or strikeouts as some supreme detriment, and Arráez (who leads the league in GIDP) happens to be the poster child this year.

    Arráez's Padres lead the major leagues in batting average (.259). But they rank 10th in OPS, and 10th in runs scored. The Twins rank 15th out of 30 teams in average, but eighth in OPS, and they've scored three more runs than San Diego in four fewer games. That's a perfect reflection of the point at hand here.

    Production is production. No team in baseball is using batting average as the primary evaluator of it. The gap between production and perception is the clearest way to objectively characterize a player as overrated or underrated. From this perspective, the narratives around Correa and Arráez are astoundingly twisted up, even on the home front.

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    1 hour ago, Riverbrian said:

    Your implying what I'm implying. I'm not pretending that OPS is some one-dimensional stat. 

    I understand how OBP is calculated

    I understand how SLG is calculated

    I understand how OPS is calculated using OBP and SLG. 

    Arraez needs to walk a bunch more if he wants his OBP to rise enough to cover for his low slugging numbers and that is nearly impossible to do enough to cover for slugging.  

    There are currently 5 MLB qualified hitters with an OBP over .400. There are currently 88 MLB qualified hitters with a Slugging Percentage over .400

    If you don't slug... it's harder to carry a high OPS. It's a slugging dominant stat despite it's 50/50 calculation. 

     

     

     

     

    Okay, my bad. When I read your comment . . .

    "OPS is a nice stat but there is a lot of baseball that happens away from it. Someone needs to get on base when those OPS guys step up to the plate and do that OPS thing."

    . . . I read it as a criticism of OPS because you feel that "a lot of baseball" is not measured by it—with your example being that "someone" needs to get on base (as if "those OPS guys" don't). If that wasn't what you meant, cool.

    I'm no new-stats evangelist, but I do think OPS does a pretty good job of showing the big picture of a hitter's production, and I think it does a good job of showing why someone like Arraez is overrated. Heck, *I* overrate him. I love watching him hit. I miss having him on the Twins. I miss that kind of baseball--balls in play, lots of opportunities for the defense, when striking out was considered a sin, etc. I think a lot of us on this board feel the same way, and Arraez is a refreshing reminder of that older, more exciting style of baseball. But in terms of pure production, if you want to give your team the best chance to win, you generally want guys with higher OPS. Period. That's what I was reacting to in your comment. I don't buy that an offense needs this mix of high-OPS guys and some other kind of guys who have low OPS but contribute by hitting the other way or laying down awesome sacrifice bunts or hitting .320 with no power and no walks. 

    20 hours ago, Danchat said:

    I do think OPS is a bit overrated with how much it rewards power compared to outs - speaking of Ichiro, he had only a .757 OPS. Arraez has a weird profile with poor speed and pedestrian fielding, but I will take a guy who can hit .320 with .380 OBP any day in my lineup. I wouldn't think about filling a lineup with more players built like him, but with the DH being universal, he is pretty good compared to what many teams are running out at DH. Take into account his hitting tool in clutch situations and ability to take more pitches than the average batter, and I think the modern stats we use underrate him.

    The problem is that when you compare him to DH only players, he falls short. Yes, his bat plays there but the Schwarbers, Stantons, and JD Martinez types also have the clutch hit tool with the ability to end a game at any time.

    A more age appropriate comp might be Yordan Alvarez. Again, different league and class of hitter.

    He's a tough fit.

    38 minutes ago, cooldude said:

    Okay, my bad. When I read your comment . . .

    "OPS is a nice stat but there is a lot of baseball that happens away from it. Someone needs to get on base when those OPS guys step up to the plate and do that OPS thing."

    . . . I read it as a criticism of OPS because you feel that "a lot of baseball" is not measured by it—with your example being that "someone" needs to get on base (as if "those OPS guys" don't). If that wasn't what you meant, cool.

    I'm no new-stats evangelist, but I do think OPS does a pretty good job of showing the big picture of a hitter's production, and I think it does a good job of showing why someone like Arraez is overrated. Heck, *I* overrate him. I love watching him hit. I miss having him on the Twins. I miss that kind of baseball--balls in play, lots of opportunities for the defense, when striking out was considered a sin, etc. I think a lot of us on this board feel the same way, and Arraez is a refreshing reminder of that older, more exciting style of baseball. But in terms of pure production, if you want to give your team the best chance to win, you generally want guys with higher OPS. Period. That's what I was reacting to in your comment. I don't buy that an offense needs this mix of high-OPS guys and some other kind of guys who have low OPS but contribute by hitting the other way or laying down awesome sacrifice bunts or hitting .320 with no power and no walks. 

    I have a tendency of typing more words than necessary. It makes me colorful and confusing at the same time. 😉 

    I use OPS as a down and dirty stat all the time to make points about players I believe in and players I don't believe in. It's a nice stat... for the majority but it isn't right for the extreme players on the fringes and therefore I'm willing to break away from it from time to time. 

    The Fringes? Gallo for instance... In the case of Joey... I don't care how high his OPS is. I don't want that low batting average and strikeout rate. I want the feeling that the player is actually capable of driving that runner in from third with less than one out. Somehow Someway. We can put a number on the board.   

    In the case of Arraez... I don't care how low his OPS is. If there is a runner on third and less than one out and I can choose any hitter to send up to the plate. I'll take Arraez almost every time.

    If you have a Gallo... He is much more effective if he has Arraez hitting in front of him because the two run shot is better than the solo. That's what I meant by somebody has to get on base so the OPS guys can OPS. Should have said... SLG guy can SLG. 

    I believe in OPS but it's not going to lead you to Arraez. It'll lead you to Gallo instead and I just can't endorse that sort of behavior.

    There will always be a place on my team for Luis.   

    3 hours ago, Jocko87 said:

    The problem is that when you compare him to DH only players, he falls short. Yes, his bat plays there but the Schwarbers, Stantons, and JD Martinez types also have the clutch hit tool with the ability to end a game at any time.

    A more age appropriate comp might be Yordan Alvarez. Again, different league and class of hitter.

    He's a tough fit.

    There's no rule that your DH needs to be the most extreme version of the three true outcomes. 

    The notion that it's tough to fit a bat like Arraez into a lineup is pretty funny to me. 

    1 hour ago, KirbyDome89 said:

    There's no rule that your DH needs to be the most extreme version of the three true outcomes. 

    The notion that it's tough to fit a bat like Arraez into a lineup is pretty funny to me. 

    Sorry, tough roster fit, not lineup. Luis Arraez could be comfortably written into any lineup in the game. Once. After a few weeks, the fits get harder.

    Your DH can be whoever you want. Many teams choose not to have a true DH only bat because of the flexibility of a precious roster spot, especially now that they are choosing the extra pitcher most of the time. If Arraez is truly a bat only player (and at least two teams think he is) then he has to be compared to the JD Martinez, Jim Thome, Nelson Cruz type players. Bat only players.

    As a bat only player, most teams composite DH of rotating outfielders and resting stars is going to outperform Arraez over the course of a season. Measure it however you like.

    One at bat? Luis Arraez is right up there in good choices but a tier below a Nelly Cruz, who also takes a very high level at bat but can do massive damage additionally. Considering Arraez runs about as well as retired Nelly Cruz, you might need a runner on your roster too.

    On 6/19/2024 at 8:04 PM, Riverbrian said:

    Someone needs to move that runner on 2nd base with nobody out forward.

    Someone needs to lace that ball into the OF with a runner on third and one out. 

    OPS is a nice stat but there is a lot of baseball that happens away from it. Someone needs to get on base when those OPS guys step up to the plate and do that OPS thing. 

    Luis Arraez is a plus to any team. Very hard to find type talent... Santana is doing alright but there are a lot of players doing just as alright or better. Not many... if any... do what Luis Arraez does better. His strikeout rates are incredible. 

    There are other players on the Padres that are overrated, but not Arraez.

    I agree that OPS is a pretty simple down-and-dirty way to look at offensive production. It isn't perfect, but no stat is IMHO. OPS probably underrates guys who get on base, but this year because of his declining walk rate, Arráez isn't elite. Luis' OBP is .351 which is lower than Willi Castro. 

    The low slugging negates most of the good OBP and then we can look at defensive deficiencies and base running, neither of which make Arráez look like a better player. Not to pile on, but he's grounded into 13 double plays this season, which roughly projects to 30 in a season. 

    So far, Arráez hasn't missed significant time with injuries, so in conjunction with hitting at the top of the lineup he is racking up counting stats, including leading the league in hits. 

    Arráez is a unique and interesting player, but he isn't as big a difference maker as many on his current team or his first team. If he is elected an All-Star, good for him, but that doesn't make him a more valuable player.

    Sure, I’ll take the bait. 

    In terms of bang for buck, which infield combination sounds best right about now:

    • $ 44 million, Correa/Arraez
    • $ 37 million, Correa/Castro
    • $ 12 million, Lewis/Arraez
    • $   4 million, Lewis/Castro

    A little something for both sides there, I hope.

     




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