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    Cody Pirkl

    Kenta Maeda is turning back the clock since being activated from the IL in late June. Soon to be 36, it’s fair to wonder how long it’ll last. Could he pitch well enough down the stretch to become a part of the 2024 plans?

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    Kenta Maeda is turning back the clock since being activated from the IL in late June. Soon to be 36, it's fair to wonder how long it'll last. Could he pitch well enough down the stretch to become a part of the 2024 plans?

    In his last year under team control with the Twins, it seemed evident in the offseason and early on that Kenta Maeda was likely in his final season with the Twins. Given how he's looked since being truly healthy, it's becoming fair to wonder whether he could change the Twins' plans.

    Through his first four starts since Tommy John surgery, Maeda threw 16 innings and allowed 16 runs. His 19.2% strikeout rate was concerning, and he looked the part of a 35-year-old coming off of a significant injury. The velocity was down even as a pitcher who was never known for his heater, and the command needed to be improved. It appeared to be a deadly combination.

    Many believed Maeda's IL trip following his 3-inning, 10-earned-run performance against the Yankees on April 26 was the end of the line. It was a fair assumption, given his age, health, and the Twins' ability to plug in Louie Varland for the remainder of the season. Maeda changed their plans.

    Since June 23, when the Twins activated Maeda from the IL, he's been a different pitcher. In his 53.2 innings, he's posted a 2.68 ERA and a dominant 32.2% strikeout rate. His fastball velocity has trended consistently month by month, beginning at 89.5 in April and peaking at 91.4 in August. His fastball was 91.8 in his Cy Young runner-up 2020 season.

    Speaking of 2020, his current stretch should be meaningfully compared to that dominant short season. Those 66 innings were enough to elevate Maeda's status in the eyes of many, which is why the 53-plus innings he's thrown on his current dominant stretch shouldn't considered as a small sample. His strikeout rate is almost identical, with the only real difference being a few more walks and being on pace to allow one more homer. Maeda has rediscovered the form that made him a Cy Young runner-up.

    The argument, of course, is how long he can keep it up, given his major injury in 2021 and his three years older than that electric shortened season. We can debate how long Maeda can keep this up, but the real debate will happen internally in the Twins front office. 

    If Maeda continues anywhere near his current performance, it would be hard not to consider bringing him back in some facet in 2024. A qualifying offer would be surprising, given all the listed concerns and the low innings count he's sure to accrue. That being said, Sonny Gray is sure to depart this offseason. The Twins will still have a rotation, including Pablo Lopez, Joe Ryan, and Bailey Ober, but they'll likely pursue at least one more veteran starter, as we've seen in years past. 

    The hope is Joe Ryan returns to form down the stretch, but that remains to be seen after the home run issues exploded on him before hitting the IL. Bailey Ober has an injury history of his own. The hope is for Chris Paddack to return to the rotation, but that's still to be determined. Louie Varland deserves a shot, but the Twins chose to go with Maeda over him when healthy earlier this season, and it's paid off. 

    Maeda could be the perfect fit for a 2024 Twins rotation, with many pitchers riding the fence. If he finishes strong, the plan could be to bring him back as an Opening Day rotation member. 

    It's hard to envision Maeda being a workhorse at 36, and even IL trips for maintenance would create opportunities for younger arms to get their feet wet. If things derail completely in the rotation, he has relief experience the Twins could again try to harness. Maeda would be a better veteran option than the Chris Archer and Dylan Bundy tier they've dipped into in years past. A big multi-year deal is unlikely at his age, but the Twins could get creative with options or incentives, which Maeda is no stranger to in his MLB career.

    Maeda is happy in Minnesota, and even with a strong finish, he shouldn't break the bank if he and the Twins agree on a reunion. He may be a near-perfect fit for a 2024 Twins rotation that should have plenty of youth and upside. If Maeda continues his dominance, should the Twins prioritize him this offseason?

     

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    I liked what I saw of Paddack after the Twins acquired him and tweaked his approach. Hopefully he comes back 100%, but it's not guaranteed. And even if he does, how quickly does his "feel" for his pitches come back?

    Varland looked really solid in his 2022 debut, with a pair of games in Yankee stadium IIRC. His ERA was lower this season, while maintaining his K rate, right up until his final 3 starts when the wheels suddenly came off. I like his future. But why not 6 arms to start the season, like this year, instead of 5? I mean, you're going to need 7 or 8 before the season is done.

    I love watching Maeda pitch. He's a craftsman. And his rebuilt arm looks to have some good life left in it. Still, he's not getting any younger and we don't know for sure how he will hold up up for an entire season. So I don't think we're talking a $20M deal. I'm thinking somewhere around $14-15M per for 2yrs. I'd love a 1 and 1 with a buyout, but I think demand will be high enough that it will take a guaranteed 2yrs.

    I don't know who becomes #7,8,or 9, but I like our first 6, especially if we finally deepen the pen. 

    6 minutes ago, DocBauer said:

    I liked what I saw of Paddack after the Twins acquired him and tweaked his approach. Hopefully he comes back 100%, but it's not guaranteed. And even if he does, how quickly does his "feel" for his pitches come back?

    Varland looked really solid in his 2022 debut, with a pair of games in Yankee stadium IIRC. His ERA was lower this season, while maintaining his K rate, right up until his final 3 starts when the wheels suddenly came off. I like his future. But why not 6 arms to start the season, like this year, instead of 5? I mean, you're going to need 7 or 8 before the season is done.

    I love watching Maeda pitch. He's a craftsman. And his rebuilt arm looks to have some good life left in it. Still, he's not getting any younger and we don't know for sure how he will hold up up for an entire season. So I don't think we're talking a $20M deal. I'm thinking somewhere around $14-15M per for 2yrs. I'd love a 1 and 1 with a buyout, but I think demand will be high enough that it will take a guaranteed 2yrs.

    I don't know who becomes #7,8,or 9, but I like our first 6, especially if we finally deepen the pen. 

    Paddack starting facing live hitters on roughly 8/16.  It seems feasible he could he be ready for 2 inning relief appearances but will he be sharp enough to put on a playoff roster?   

    Stewart threw a 15 pitch BP session today.  Maybe there is hope for him.

    16 hours ago, Fire Dan Gladden said:

    If the Twins thought Varland was better than we we currently had, he would be up on the big team.  He has not been blowing people away this year at any level.

    To be fair, what the Twins have had in 2023 has been as good as I have ever seen for a Twins pitching rotation. Varland has the talent to pitch in the major leagues and if he isn't good enough for the rotation next year there is plenty of room in the bullpen.

    I think LA Vikes has accurately pegged the value of Maeda.  I think he COULD have a spot, but I'm not getting into a bidding war for a 36 year old, oft injured-needs time off for "maintenance" pitcher whose future is in the BP and not the starting rotation.  He's certainly more Kyle Gibson than Max Scherzer.  Someone else had the idea of incentives like holds and saves being built into a contract offer.  I like that.  He's not your prototypical 8th inning 100 mph power pitcher, but he could certainly stabilize the back end of our BP there.  I see his future in the BP not the rotation.  

    I’d offer 2/26 and hope he takes it. He’s usually steady and I like that. 
     

    No one in AAA has done anything to impress me. Varland was good in AAA last year, but wasn’t good in MLB. This year he’s not good at either. He’s trending towards a BP arm for me. 

    Remember all the offseason angst about Ober being slotted at No. 6? And how a lot of us said, he'll get a chance when injuries arise? 

    I think the Twins showed this year how they would like to approach their rotation. Start with six guys with at least some level off success, so that when you have an early season injury, you won't have to immediately dip into your AAA guys.

    In most years, you'll also use your No. 7, 8, 9 and more. This year they've had amazing health, only using eight starters (plus a game when DeLeon was an opener), so there hasn't been as much dipping into AAA as usual, but that makes this year the exception. 

    At this point, Lopez, Ryan, Ober and Paddack are four of those six. I don't think the Twins see Varland as one of those. He well may be their No. 7, good enough to assume that they'll use him, but not good enough to want to have to count on him.

    So they'll sign or trade for two. First up is offering Gray the QO, assuming he'll decline. I'd love to sign him to several years, but he's got Cincinnati written all over him. Past history there, Nashville native, gobs of young talent and little financial commitment.

    At this point, and assuming he keeps rolling, I seriously consider offering Maeda the QO. If you don't, 2 years at $20M isn't going to get it done to sign him. He's going to get two or maybe three years if he wants it. So offer him the $20M QO. Or perhaps $17M with a $3M team option for 2025 at $15M. That guarantees him the $20M, but could turn into 2/$35M, which is probably richer than he can get.

    And then still sign or trade for someone else.  

    6 hours ago, DJL44 said:

    To be fair, what the Twins have had in 2023 has been as good as I have ever seen for a Twins pitching rotation. Varland has the talent to pitch in the major leagues and if he isn't good enough for the rotation next year there is plenty of room in the bullpen.

    This is the actual crux of the argument against pushing up the pitching prospects.  If the Twins go out this offseason and re-sign two of Gray, Maeda, and Keuchel, the rotation is theoretically set. (Yes, like it or not, do not write off Keuchel just yet)

    Personally, I can really only see Maeda back, but the way contracts have gone in MN over the last few years, nothing would surprise.

    I think if Varland looks ready, but not able to crack the 2024 rotation, he would be moved.  Quality SP are always in short supply, BP guys can be found on the cheap every off-season. 

    Liked the last comment on Varland…..we don’t NEED to give him a chance, he needs to prove he deserves a chance. Being a good guy - being from MN doesn’t matter. Nobody handed Ober a spot - that’s for sure.

    Maeda is worth a 2 year deal for $25M -$28M if he finishes well in ‘23. I like the “mutual option” for ‘25. He’s been making a base of $3.1M for 8 years……along with incentives that could earn him another $2.5 - $5M if he was healthy, based on innings and # of starts. He needs to be paid. He seems to like our team - we’ve treated him well & even though he’s 35, he has a rebuilt arm and he gets guys out. Basically, we would extend him for less than what we would be paying Mahle.

    Mahle - Gray gone, that’s $25-27M saved…….if Maeda is making $5.5M this year it would be a decent raise at his age to $12.5M

    Take some of the other $ left and try to add some depth to the Pen - just one guy with a track record……doesn’t have to be a star…….. just a 65 inning/yr guy with ERA under 3.80. Use some of other balance of $ to tie up Jax & Duran.




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