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    Eight Twins Players Reassigned to Minor League Camp


    Seth Stohs

    Following their 7-1 thrashing of the cross-town Boston Red Sox Tuesday at Hammond Stadium, the Twins announced their first round of spring training cuts. That puts their spring roster at 50 players (plus one on the 60-Day Injured List) remaining. They will need to cut down to their 26-man Opening Day roster in about three more weeks. 

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    On Tuesday, the Twins sent the following players to minor-league camp: 

    And as it is spring training for all of us, a quick terminology reminder might be good for all of us, including me. 

    These eight players were "reassigned to minor league camp." That means that they are not on the 40-man roster and were spring training invites. When a player from the 40-man roster is sent down to minor-league camp, they will be "optioned to [an affiliate, likely St. Paul or Wichita]."

    Typically, the first round of cuts tends to be a group of 40-man roster players who have no chance of making the Opening Day roster. But that isn't the case here. It is also important to remember that when a 40-man roster player is optioned to minor-league spring training, he cannot play in remaining big-league spring training games. However, non-roster players can come over to play in in big-league spring games. They just don't have their own locker at Hammond Stadium anymore. 

    There are no real surprises in this group. 

    For instance, Jovani Moran had Tommy John surgery near the end of the 2023 season and is not expected to pitch at all in 2024.

    If there is a surprise in the group, it's that Randy Dobnak was sent down with this group already. Not that he had any shot at making the Opening Day roster, but more because he had not even pitched in a spring training game. Ronny Henriquez came off the 40-man roster on the same day as Moran. They were both non-tendered but reached minor-league deals to remain with the Twins quickly. The diminutive righty pitched two innings over two outings. He gave up no runs, two hits and struck out one batter this spring. Dobnak and Henriquez will spend the season in St. Paul again. Dobnak will continue to stretch out and work as a starter. He was healthy again last year for the first time in over two years. He made 26 starts and five relief appearances and went 5-9 with a 5.13 ERA. In 126 1/3 innings, he had 61 walks and 115 strikeouts. He is in the third season of his four-year MLB contract. 

    Ryan Jensen was claimed by the Twins earlier in the offseason. Then the DFAd him and when he cleared waivers, he was invited to spring training. Between the Cubs and Mariners organizations, and between Double-A and Triple-A, Jensen went 2-8 with a 5.32 ERA. In 64 1/3 innings, he had 78 strikeouts to go with 54 walks. Jensen pitched in three games this spring. In two innings, he gave up six runs on eighth hits and four walks. But he did strikeout out a batter per inning. 

    With some pitchers being sent down, and approximately three billion pitchers ready to officially some minor-league spring training, more catchers are needed there. Alex Isola and Pat Winkel were both at Wichita last season. Will be interesting to see where each starts the 2024 season, likely back with the Wind Surge. Isola played in six official games and went 2-for-8. He also had three hits in the exhibition game against the Gophers. Winkel played in five spring games and went 2-for-7 with two doubles.  Winkel was the Twins ninth round pick in 2022 out of U-Conn. He has moved up a level per season. In 88 games a year ago in Wichita, he hit .266/.362/.424 (.787) with 16 doubles and 10 home runs. Meanwhile, Isola has absolutely mashed the last two seasons with the Wind Surge. In 168 Double-A games, he has hit .282/.369/.477 (.847) with 31 doubles, 30 homers and 98 RBI. He has primarily played at first base the last couple of seasons though he still catches some. Will he need to endure another year in Wichita (nothing against Wichita, of course, Isola has just earned his way to St. Paul). 

    Aaron Sabato played in six spring games and went 1-for-9 with five strikeouts. He should head back to Wichita where he spent the final month or so of the 2022 season and all of the 2023 season. The burly first baseman played in 77 games for the Wind Surge a year ago (thanks to a broken wrist suffered for the second season in a row). He hit .221/.329/.430 (.759) with 19 doubles and 12 home runs. He went to the Arizona Fall League, and in 18 games tied with fellow Twins prospect Kala'i Rosario for the league lead with seven home runs. 

    DaShawn Keirsey played in the exhibition game against the Gophers but not at all in the rest of the spring training games. Last year, he hit .305./.363/.488 (.850) with 17 doubles, five triples and 13 home runs at Wichita before moving up to St. Paul for the final 39 games of his season. At Triple-A, he hit .264/.375/.364 (.739) with a doubles, three triples, and two homers. Combined, he stole 39 bases. He is arguably the fastest players and the top defensive outfielder in the organization. 

    The Twins have 50 players in big-league camp including 11 non-roster players. Of the 50, 26 of those are pitchers including five non-roster guys. They still have five catchers (2 non-roster) in camp, 10 infielders (3 non-roster), and two utility players (1 non-roster). And Josh Winder was placed on the 60-Day IL about a week ago. 

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    16 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

    It's weird that until Pablo Lopez the ONLY starting pitcher to get a long-term deal from this front office was Randy Dobnak.

    Dobnak's best value for the Twins would be to offset a trade for a team paying the luxury tax. Dobnak's contract is off the books for luxury tax purposes so a team like the Mets could save millions if they trade a player with a similar salary back to the Twins.

    Other than Berrios what pitcher would have been worth signing ? It is not the least bit weird 

    33 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

    It's weird that until Pablo Lopez the ONLY starting pitcher to get a long-term deal from this front office was Randy Dobnak.

    Dobnak's best value for the Twins would be to offset a trade for a team paying the luxury tax. Dobnak's contract is off the books for luxury tax purposes so a team like the Mets could save millions if they trade a player with a similar salary back to the Twins.

    Dobnak's contract is such a clear outlier when it comes to MLB starting pitching contracts that, to me, it seems like it only gets brought up to push some narrative about the Front Office.

    The length of the contract is not what the FO is avoiding. They are avoiding committing the annual salary that comes with those contracts because ownership is unwilling to spend to the level required to support a full team with multiple such contracts.

    There are currently 43 starting pitchers signed to 4+ year contracts. 28 of those were signed when the pitcher was either a free agent or in the last year of team control - the average AAV of those 28 contracts is $22.95M. 22 of those 28 are on the following 9 teams - Toronto (3), Dodgers (3), Phillies (3), Cubs (3), Mariners (2), Yankees (2), Nationals (2), Padres (2), Rangers (2). 

    Very few teams, particularly outside large markets, sign these kinds of contracts.

    5 years, $9.25 million is not some onerous commitment. 

    46 minutes ago, CCHOF5yearstoolate said:

    Dobnak's contract is such a clear outlier when it comes to MLB starting pitching contracts that, to me, it seems like it only gets brought up to push some narrative about the Front Office.

    The length of the contract is not what the FO is avoiding. They are avoiding committing the annual salary that comes with those contracts because ownership is unwilling to spend to the level required to support a full team with multiple such contracts.

    There are currently 43 starting pitchers signed to 4+ year contracts. 28 of those were signed when the pitcher was either a free agent or in the last year of team control - the average AAV of those 28 contracts is $22.95M. 22 of those 28 are on the following 9 teams - Toronto (3), Dodgers (3), Phillies (3), Cubs (3), Mariners (2), Yankees (2), Nationals (2), Padres (2), Rangers (2). 

    Very few teams, particularly outside large markets, sign these kinds of contracts.

    5 years, $9.25 million is not some onerous commitment. 

    Thanks for making the effort to summarize this information in a way that puts this in context.  Of course, we all know this conceptually, but the summary really puts it in perspective.

    16 hours ago, JD-TWINS said:

    Would not surprise me at all if they don’t try to package Larnach & Miranda in trades sooner than later…. other guys are coming in ‘25…….honestly, not much value there so probably depth guys with options at AAA balance of this year.

    Even if the depth Veterans go away after this season, Rodriguez - Keirsey - Hellman - Severino are all going to be pushing to get Miranda & Larnach out of the way.

    I think Larnach and Miranda are definite trade candidates as is Farmer, assuming health with our existing guys.

    12 hours ago, old nurse said:

    What is charmed about rupturing a tendon and basically losing your career at this point? 

    Doing it after getting paid. 

    The attrition rate for pitchers is worse than it is for NFL running backs.  Plenty of guys better than him get hurt and lose their careers before making the money he made.  Plus he's still just one step away from the show if he discovers some magic and dominates AAA.  That pecking order can change in a hurry.  

    20 minutes ago, gil4 said:

    Doing it after getting paid. 

    The attrition rate for pitchers is worse than it is for NFL running backs.  Plenty of guys better than him get hurt and lose their careers before making the money he made.  Plus he's still just one step away from the show if he discovers some magic and dominates AAA.  That pecking order can change in a hurry.  

    You have never dealt with something like pain for 2 years have you?

    On 3/7/2024 at 7:17 AM, jmlease1 said:

    I hope Sabato saved his signing bonus and invested it carefully.

    Sabato's signing bonus at age 21 ($2.75MM) is more than a working lifetime of the median per capita income in the United States, and it's 15 years of median household income in Rye Brook Village, NY where he's from. He's nearing junior status in communications studies at UNC as well. I expect he'll be fine, even if he wasn't like my dad turning coal into diamonds using only his backside assets, haha

    On 3/8/2024 at 10:57 AM, gman said:

    Anybody know how Camargo ranks among Triple A catchers on the defensive side?

    Supposedly, he's improved a lot. He was considered pretty rough when the Twins acquired him. Average to a little above average controlling the run game compared to other legit prospects.

    On 3/7/2024 at 9:07 PM, old nurse said:

    You have never dealt with something like pain for 2 years have you?

    I'm not sure it's relevant, but I went about 4 years on a knee that the doc said "The next step is replacement. You'll tell me when you're ready."  I finally was about 4 years ago.  I'm at that spot with the other one now after having it scoped for the 3rd time, although it's not as bad as the other one was and I hope it has more than 4 years left.  My knees hurt at least a little bit almost all the time.   I assume it's a normal part of getting old.

    I also assume most pro athletes deal with pain during and after their careers.  Dobnak is back to pitching at the AAA level.  In the big picture, that's a very high level.  Realistically, the odds of him getting back to the MLB level are not great, but he's still just one step away.  He has made a lot of money, he gets to play baseball for a living, and he still has a chance to get his dream back.  If he doesn't make it back, he still should be able to do a lot of things and not have to worry about money.  

    And how bad is his finger pain?  If it hurt all the time to the point is affected non-baseball activities, would he be back to throwing a baseball?  Maybe, but probably not.  I know Dobnak had surgery on his hand, but I'm not sure if it was because the pain was so intense or because he just couldn't do the things that his livelihood depended on.  My guess is when he's sixty his daily pain will be from his shoulder and elbow, not his finger.  

     

    8 hours ago, gil4 said:

    I'm not sure it's relevant, but I went about 4 years on a knee that the doc said "The next step is replacement. You'll tell me when you're ready."  I finally was about 4 years ago.  I'm at that spot with the other one now after having it scoped for the 3rd time, although it's not as bad as the other one was and I hope it has more than 4 years left.  My knees hurt at least a little bit almost all the time.   I assume it's a normal part of getting old.

    I also assume most pro athletes deal with pain during and after their careers.  Dobnak is back to pitching at the AAA level.  In the big picture, that's a very high level.  Realistically, the odds of him getting back to the MLB level are not great, but he's still just one step away.  He has made a lot of money, he gets to play baseball for a living, and he still has a chance to get his dream back.  If he doesn't make it back, he still should be able to do a lot of things and not have to worry about money.  

    And how bad is his finger pain?  If it hurt all the time to the point is affected non-baseball activities, would he be back to throwing a baseball?  Maybe, but probably not.  I know Dobnak had surgery on his hand, but I'm not sure if it was because the pain was so intense or because he just couldn't do the things that his livelihood depended on.  My guess is when he's sixty his daily pain will be from his shoulder and elbow, not his finger.  

     

    My, have you lived a charmed life. You are so lucky

    On 3/9/2024 at 1:42 PM, bean5302 said:

    Sabato's signing bonus at age 21 ($2.75MM) is more than a working lifetime of the median per capita income in the United States, and it's 15 years of median household income in Rye Brook Village, NY where he's from. He's nearing junior status in communications studies at UNC as well. I expect he'll be fine, even if he wasn't like my dad turning coal into diamonds using only his backside assets, haha

    So you want the Pohlads to have more money. 

    It is be an  _________________ about money for athletes week because somebodies good fortune wasn’t yours




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