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    Derek Falvey is Likely to Stay, But Twins' Code of Silence Leaves Future of Front Office Unclear


    Jamie Cameron

    There's been a little-noticed but noteworthy silence, since the end of last season, about the contract statuses of the Minnesota Twins' top front-office executives. What should fans make of it?

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    The Twins are struggling. In the last week, they’ve lost three games in which their win probability was 85% or higher at some point. The team seems to be running into a confluence of challenges at the worst possible time. Carlos Correa and Byron Buxton remain sidelined, with the trio of Correa, Buxton, and Royce Lewis having only played 17 games together all season. The back half of the rotation is comprised of three rookies. The bullpen looks thin and exposed, with Brock Stewart’s season-ending injury leaving the Twins short of high-leverage arms and Jhoan Durán proving, shockingly, to be human. Despite all that, the resilient Twins are still roughly 86% likely to make the playoffs, and 23% likely to win the AL Central, per FanGraphs. Impressive fortitude, indeed.

    Amid that state of affairs, especially given that they're coming off an AL Central championship and a very important playoff breakthrough, it's peculiar that we have no official news of an extension with either of their top baseball executives, Derek Falvey and Thad Levine.

    It’s possible that the Twins have engaged Falvey and Levine in contract talks already. In May 2023, Ken Rosenthal reported that the organization ‘quietly’ extended Rocco Baldelli until at least the end of the 2025 season. Regardless of which Pohlad is running the show, the Twins organization has typically been one that prizes consistency and continuity, if we’re to judge by the tenures of previous managers and front office staff.

    Furthermore, as best Twins Daily has been able to discern in discussions with several sources around and within the team, Falvey is happy with his situation in Minnesota, and the Pohlads are happy with the way Falvey and Levine have done their jobs of late.

    Asked for an official comment, the Twins declined.

    "A few years back as a matter of policy, we decided not to comment on contract specifics during the season for any of our staff, including Rocco, the coaching staff, or our executive leadership," said a spokesperson.

    That jibes with the lack of an announcement from the team when Baldelli signed his aforementioned extension, and it leaves wide open the possibility that Falvey and Levine have already agreed to deals to stick around beyond 2024. By all indications, both executives would be welcomed back, and a significant change in leadership is unlikely.

    If that's how it plays out, we should regard it as very good news. Since 2019, the Twins have won the AL Central in three out of five seasons. They’re on track to make the playoffs for the fourth time in six seasons. In 2023, they broke a playoff drought of over 20 years by sweeping the Wild Card series against the Toronto Blue Jays, before eventually crashing out to the Houston Astros. All you can do is get there as close to every year as possible. The last five years on the field have been good for the Twins.

    In Falvey’s initial remarks on taking the job in Minnesota, he stated a desire to build a team that could win sustainably. For a mid-market team like the Twins, that means drafting and development. Things could hardly be going better in that arena. Entering the season, the Twins had three consensus top-100 prospects (Walker Jenkins, Brooks Lee, Emmanuel Rodriguez). Lee and Jenkins were high draft picks; they began their professional careers with the top prospect label. This season, the organization has added three more premium dudes: David Festa (13th round), Zebby Matthews (8th round), and Luke Keaschall (2nd round) all now appear on top-100 prospect lists. None of them were ranked entering 2024.

    This speaks to the systems and structures the Twins have built around player development. The organization knows what it does well, whether that’s improving swing decisions or adding velocity to a fastball. Increasingly, the developmental leaps taken by drafted prospects are becoming more pronounced. It’s not difficult to imagine a future in 2025 wherein the likes of Kaelen Culpepper or Charlee Soto enter top-100 consideration. At various points this season, the Twins have used four homegrown starting pitchers in their rotation (Ober, Varland, Festa, Matthews).

    I don’t think the front office is above criticism. There have been poor free-agent signings, trades that didn’t work out (Tyler Mahle, Jorge López), and underwhelming trade deadline returns (2023, 2024). That’s not exclusive to this front office, though, and to me, it’s clear that they have gotten more of the big decisions and tests right than wrong. Whether it’s the Pablo López trade, re-signing Carlos Correa, or extending Byron Buxton, the front office has usually nailed the big moments.

    Too often, organizational weaknesses are foisted on the front office. Whether it’s broadcast access or diminishing payroll, let’s not conflate the front office with ownership just because they are the mouthpiece of the organization.

    That brings us back around to the real question about retaining Falvey and Levine, which seems to be less about whether the Twins would want them than about whether they would want to stay. To reiterate, we have some reason to believe the answer to both questions is yes, but we must take note of the lack of an announcement of extensions for either last fall. That wouldn't have violated their convenient organizational policy, after all. It also would have forestalled a lot of potential speculation and uncertainty, including and especially for fans--who already must contend with a lack of clarity about the team's commitment to winning (in the form of spending on payroll) and about the future of access to the team via TV broadcasts.

    It does seem safe to assume that, as of the start of spring training, both Falvey and Levine were de facto impending free agents. Even if both, or just Falvey, have reupped since, the diminished transparency here--the twin extensions the two signed after 2019 were made public in short order--invites some unease that feels unnecessary, except as a means of preserving a policy they instituted both silently and voluntarily.

    On balance, it’s clear that the Twins should extend Falvey and Levine immediately--if not sooner, as is actually possible in this case. They’ve restored consistent competitiveness to the Twin Cities, and spearheaded the development of a top-five farm system in baseball. There’s a young, exciting core in place who, despite the miserliness of the ownership group, gives the team a chance to win sustainably for the next half-decade. A bit more clarity about the situation would probably do more good than harm, but while the team remains mum, it sounds like both sides are interested in keeping the Falvey Pipeline flowing for years to come.


    What is your assessment of the Twins front office pair of Derek Falvey and Thad Levine? Should they be extended? What stand out as the successes and challenges of their tenure in Minnesota?

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    2 hours ago, bean5302 said:

    If there was substance to engage on, I might have.

    OK, make your case that all-star game selections are a measuring stick for a front office.  In the era of one mandatory all star from each team.

    Make a fact based case that the Falvey has more money than Ryan did.  Don't forget inflation.

    Ad hominem usually equals surrender in a debate but the user doesn't realize they have surrendered.  I'll give you another chance.

    2 hours ago, bean5302 said:

    The Twins have $5MM more budget to work with if Santana isn't part of the roster. If they don't bring in Margot and instead work with Austin Martin, oh, that's $9MM.

    What do the Twins do when Lewis goes down, then? Castro and Farmer.

    The front office performed horribly this offseason. Horribly.

    Wait, they have an all-star and a proven vet to back up Lewis?  Seems pretty solid to me.

    This is also an odd statement considering the value you are placing on all-stars in your other nonsense.  At least be consistent.

    If you separate the front office from ownership, and you should, you can't possibly make a case that they performed horribly this year. 

    On 8/28/2024 at 6:00 PM, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

    Personally, I would have those two reversed. But that’s a matter of taste, a Coke, Pepsi thing. 

    I listen to interviews, and I love Levine’s candor and detest Falvey’s shallow dismissiveness about everything. (Beat writers sound the same way.) “The Twins are great, everything is incredible, we got this.” Maybe Joe Pohald eats that **** up. Maybe Falvey shows a different side in private. If Levine is the one ultimately calling the shots on things like the Mahle trade or Gallo signing or pulling the trigger on other bigger dollar signings, well then Levine should get the pink slip. Either way, we will all be cheering together like last year i hope when the playoffs roll around. Baseball is too much fun in October. 

    I've long wondered what Levine really does because I think Falvey controls, ultimately the trades and signings, even if they may work together sometimes.

    Also, aside from the one season that they actually really tried on free agent signings with Cron, Schoop and Cruz, they are averaging about 3 to 3.5 games above .500 per year. 

    The player development is the strength (credit Sean Johnson?).

    The trade deadlines have been positively abysmal going all the way back to 2019 as they  detailed, season by season on the SKOR North Twins Show with Declan, Phil Mackey and Judd.

    Lots of bad trades and signings Happ, Shoemaker, Sam Dyson, Mahle, Archer, Lopez, Dylan Bundy, DeSclafani, Topa, Keuchel, Pagan, Jake Cave, Donaldson, Gary Sanchez, holding on to an ineffective Kepler for so long.

    Positives are Correa, SWR and Martin for Berrios may be about even or in the Twins favor. 

    I consider Rocco to have gone from an initially badly overmatched manager to an average to slightly below average manager who at times pulls it together in certain games and manages a very strong game. I base this strictly on alll the other managers I’ve seen in my lifetime and how he stacks up.

    He’s made several embarrassing mistakes lately, costing them games.

    Right now, the ownership is a big part of the problem. When Declan made his responsibility pie chart on the Twins show the other day, he assigned a 55% responsibility to Rocco and ownership combined,, 25% Rocco and 30% ownership.

    For me, give me a front office like the Royals this past year or the Padres - aggressive and knowledgeable difference makers.

    1 hour ago, Greglw3 said:

    I've long wondered what Levine really does because I think Falvey controls, ultimately the trades and signings, even if they may work together sometimes.

    Also, aside from the one season that they actually really tried on free agent signings with Cron, Schoop and Cruz, they are averaging about 3 to 3.5 games above .500 per year. 

    The player development is the strength (credit Sean Johnson?).

    The trade deadlines have been positively abysmal going all the way back to 2019 as they  detailed, season by season on the SKOR North Twins Show with Declan, Phil Mackey and Judd.

    Lots of bad trades and signings Happ, Shoemaker, Sam Dyson, Mahle, Archer, Lopez, Dylan Bundy, DeSclafani, Topa, Keuchel, Pagan, Jake Cave, Donaldson, Gary Sanchez, holding on to an ineffective Kepler for so long.

    Positives are Correa, SWR and Martin for Berrios may be about even or in the Twins favor. 

    I consider Rocco to have gone from an initially badly overmatched manager to an average to slightly below average manager who at times pulls it together in certain games and manages a very strong game. I base this strictly on alll the other managers I’ve seen in my lifetime and how he stacks up.

    He’s made several embarrassing mistakes lately, costing them games.

    Right now, the ownership is a big part of the problem. When Declan made his responsibility pie chart on the Twins show the other day, he assigned a 55% responsibility to Rocco and ownership combined,, 25% Rocco and 30% ownership.

    For me, give me a front office like the Royals this past year or the Padres - aggressive and knowledgeable difference makers.

    Where I disagree with you is I think they should have cleared the shortstop position for Lewis. Usually you want prospects to earn the job, but I think Lewis was a different breed and it was ok to just ink him in at short for the next 10-15 years like the Yankees did with Jeter. 

    36 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

    Where I disagree with you is I think they should have cleared the shortstop position for Lewis. Usually you want prospects to earn the job, but I think Lewis was a different breed and it was ok to just ink him in at short for the next 10-15 years like the Yankees did with Jeter. 

    Lewis can't even handle 3rd. He is not a major league short stop. Now Lee can be average or better at short and above average at 3rd and 2nd.

    16 hours ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

    Where I disagree with you is I think they should have cleared the shortstop position for Lewis. Usually you want prospects to earn the job, but I think Lewis was a different breed and it was ok to just ink him in at short for the next 10-15 years like the Yankees did with Jeter. 

    Given Correa’s extensive unavailability, You’re probably right. I think Lee would also be good at short. SO far, we don’t know who either Lewis or Lee will be offensively. I’d love to see Lewis come out of his deep slump.

    On 8/29/2024 at 4:21 PM, bean5302 said:

    It's unbelievably easy to be unimpressed. Since the Twins were arguably the worst team in all of baseball from 2011-2016 results wise so being "better" by that metric is a virtually non-existent bar. In other ways, I'm not sure how you'd quantify an advancement. Both Smith and Ryan were better in drafting and developing valuable players for the Twins.

    Buxton, Sano, Polanco, Dozier, Berrios, Rogers all of them All Stars as Twins. Falvey inherited all that talent, plus other valuable roster pieces that had been drafted and developed like Kepler, Garver, and Gibson.

    On Falvey's side.... nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Not a single All Star Player ever drafted or signed out of the international market by Falvey. Ever. Unless you're talking about guys he traded away like Rooker. Falvey lived off the cushion he was given.

    Then there's payroll which expanded greatly under Falvey's regime. If Terry Ryan had been given an extra $50MM to spend, do you think he might have been able to field a better team in 2016?

    How about the farm system rank? To start 2016, the Twins had an absolutely elite farm system. For 2015-2016, ranked in the top 5 or 10. Where do we sit today? Middle of the pack after trudging along in the bottom 10 recently.

    Dramatically expanded payroll. Lower ranked farm. Not one single All Star drafted and developed in 8 years. One playoff series win. One season with more than 87 wins. Again, color me unimpressed.

     

    So the only way to obtain players is thru the draft?  Saying there is zilch on Falvey's side is just being obtuse. Drafting Chase Petty and trading him straight up for Sonny Gray who was an all-star, finished 2nd in Cy Young voting and was instrumental in the series clinching win against TOR in the playoffs last year is certainly something.  

    The entire rotation were acquired by the current regime.  I don't understand this notion that you need to draft and develop players to be successful.  Why is trading for players such as Ryan, Gray, Lopez, SWR not seen in the same light as drafting?  

    Also, this is the 8th season they have been here, 2020 was a shortened season where they were on pace to win 102 games.  So in 6 real seasons, one season over 87 wins.  But 3 division titles and a playoff series win.  Current 10th best record in league, 2nd ranked farm system.  I certainly feel better about the current squad and the future of the team than in 2016.  

    On 8/30/2024 at 10:08 AM, Jocko87 said:

    It also illustrates how slim the margins are. The Dodgers have chosen their path and it's a heavy commitment.  The manager is good for a couple wins or losses a year at best.  I'm not really into spending a billion dollars for 8-10 additional wins and having to take huge swings every year.

    The long term approach is almost always better but having the patience to execute is rare.  We have it good and should recognize it.

    If you like the long term approach, and patience, you must love the Dodgers. 

    In the 10 most recent full seasons (not counting 2020) they've won 988 games, an average of 98.8 per season. The fewest wins in a season is 91. Five times over 100, including 111. Won the NLW every year but one (when they made the playoffs.) Two trips to the WS, another 3 to the NLCS.

    The long term approach seems to be part of their plan.

    I left out 2020, because I don't think it should count in any analysis, but if you want to include it, add a .717 season winning percentage and a WS win.

     

     

     

    On 8/29/2024 at 5:21 PM, bean5302 said:

    It's unbelievably easy to be unimpressed. Since the Twins were arguably the worst team in all of baseball from 2011-2016 results wise so being "better" by that metric is a virtually non-existent bar. In other ways, I'm not sure how you'd quantify an advancement. Both Smith and Ryan were better in drafting and developing valuable players for the Twins.

    Buxton, Sano, Polanco, Dozier, Berrios, Rogers all of them All Stars as Twins. Falvey inherited all that talent, plus other valuable roster pieces that had been drafted and developed like Kepler, Garver, and Gibson.

    On Falvey's side.... nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Not a single All Star Player ever drafted or signed out of the international market by Falvey. Ever. Unless you're talking about guys he traded away like Rooker. Falvey lived off the cushion he was given.

    Then there's payroll which expanded greatly under Falvey's regime. If Terry Ryan had been given an extra $50MM to spend, do you think he might have been able to field a better team in 2016?

    How about the farm system rank? To start 2016, the Twins had an absolutely elite farm system. For 2015-2016, ranked in the top 5 or 10. Where do we sit today? Middle of the pack after trudging along in the bottom 10 recently.

    Dramatically expanded payroll. Lower ranked farm. Not one single All Star drafted and developed in 8 years. One playoff series win. One season with more than 87 wins. Again, color me unimpressed.

    The farm system is absolutely in the top 5 and likely top 3 in all of MLB right now. This has been well documented. 

    "Drafted All Stars" is a very silly way to measure FO contributions. And every single time Brent Rooker is brought up just shows that someone is desperate to make a point. 

    4 hours ago, USAFChief said:

    If you like the long term approach, and patience, you must love the Dodgers. 

    In the 10 most recent full seasons (not counting 2020) they've won 988 games, an average of 98.8 per season. The fewest wins in a season is 91. Five times over 100, including 111. Won the NLW every year but one (when they made the playoffs.) Two trips to the WS, another 3 to the NLCS.

    The long term approach seems to be part of their plan.

    I left out 2020, because I don't think it should count in any analysis, but if you want to include it, add a .717 season winning percentage and a WS win.

     

     

     

    They have a long term approach but it doesn't feel like patience is a huge part of the plan.  They just write a check when the time comes. When something breaks, they write a check. It's a different approach.

    Although they did exercise good patience sitting last year out in free agency so they could drop a cool billion this year.

    I'd almost enjoy watching Falvey work with that budget. It has an equal chance of being amazing or a complete disaster.




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