drjim Provisional Member Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 You are spot on. Boras originally wanted 5/$15 and ultimately settled for quite a bit less, 4/$12 just before the start of ST. Boras has previous history of getting the short-term money and coming back to the well again for the big dollar/years the next year. The openings for CF were closing fast once Span and Revere were gone. I think he would have jumped at a one-year number close to the $15M he wanted originally in December and January. I can only imagine how fortunate Boras feels that the Twins blew their chance to make such an offer.
ashbury Verified Member Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Guys... I shamefacedly admit I took the bait without thinking (and in the spirit of hypersensitivity to hypocrisy I deleted what I wrote)... but this thread isn't about coulda/woulda/shoulda's last offseason, so please let's table the Bourn discussion. If it needs to be rehashed, start a new thread on him.
Oxtung Verified Member Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 They should put doumit on waivers and either work out a trade or give him away. He should not be taking playing time from young players. I doubt if Doumit would get claimed. He isn't hitting well, is considered a poor defensive catcher by all measuring sticks, and has a year left on his contract. If Morneau doesn't get claimed I don't think Doumit does either.
Jdosen Provisional Member Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I know this move (optioning Colabello and keeping Ramirez) made by the Twins is rather inconsequential, but I find myself increasingly frustrated year by year with moves like this. I would so much rather DFA Ramirez and keep giving Colabello at bats to prove that he may be a part of the short term future. The rule of thumb I always ask myself about moves like this is "Is it possible that this player is on the next team to win the division?" For Colabello, the answer is probably not, but maybe. The answer for Ramirez is demonstrably "no."
Brad Swanson Verified Member Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I know this move (optioning Colabello and keeping Ramirez) made by the Twins is rather inconsequential, but I find myself increasingly frustrated year by year with moves like this. I would so much rather DFA Ramirez and keep giving Colabello at bats to prove that he may be a part of the short term future. The rule of thumb I always ask myself about moves like this is "Is it possible that this player is on the next team to win the division?" For Colabello, the answer is probably not, but maybe. The answer for Ramirez is demonstrably "no." Personally, I'd DFA Clete Thomas and deal with the shoddy defense in center from Ramirez/Herrmann. But then, my answer to just about any question is "DFA Clete Thomas."
Jdosen Provisional Member Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Personally, I'd DFA Clete Thomas and deal with the shoddy defense in center from Ramirez/Herrmann. But then, my answer to just about any question is "DFA Clete Thomas."That's another good solution. He certainly is one of the guys in the mix with the Twins right now that serve absolutely no purpose further than this year, in which case means they should never be taking at bats away from guys who are.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Another in a series of bizzarro moves that makes me question exactly what Terry's plan is.
jimbo92107 Verified Member Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Deduno is going to be shut down soon? I'm not surprised, but this is the first time I've heard it. I really want to see Pinto, I think he's apart of the future. Parmelee and Tonkin need to get up here too. We have so many starting pitchers on the 40 man roster but so many are nicked up...or need to be shut down. Ah, that explains what I was seeing. I thought Deduno looked nervous or tense in his last start. Now I know why - he was pitching with nothing, nada, zilch. Pushing the ball up there with a dead arm. Good news in a way...I thought he was losing control of himself emotionally. Now they can just skip a start or two and maybe he'll be snapping it up there again. Or not. Sometimes it takes longer.
drjim Provisional Member Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 I know this move (optioning Colabello and keeping Ramirez) made by the Twins is rather inconsequential, but I find myself increasingly frustrated year by year with moves like this. I would so much rather DFA Ramirez and keep giving Colabello at bats to prove that he may be a part of the short term future. The rule of thumb I always ask myself about moves like this is "Is it possible that this player is on the next team to win the division?" For Colabello, the answer is probably not, but maybe. The answer for Ramirez is demonstrably "no." This is a good take. I hope it is remedied in two weeks but I just don't see what role Ramirez plays on the Twins going forward. Clete Thomas too.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 I know this move (optioning Colabello and keeping Ramirez) made by the Twins is rather inconsequential, but I find myself increasingly frustrated year by year with moves like this. I would so much rather DFA Ramirez and keep giving Colabello at bats to prove that he may be a part of the short term future. The rule of thumb I always ask myself about moves like this is "Is it possible that this player is on the next team to win the division?" For Colabello, the answer is probably not, but maybe. The answer for Ramirez is demonstrably "no." You say: "Inconsequential"?The Twins say: "Affiliates"! The Red Wings now have the IL POY back in their lineup.
Halsey Hall Verified Member Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 That's exactly right, jokin, and they probably explained that to Cola before he left. Go win a trophy and come on back!
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