Mariners 7, Twins 1: A Game of Two Bullpens

[mickster]

9 minutes ago, JD-TWINS said:

Is $35M worth another win or two? He’s not able to play SS with back & feet ailments. He’s not a high level offensive player anymore. To me, that was the most obvious and BEST move……….. gotta SPEND the $25M saved though or it’s a detriment to the roster!!! Didn’t do that!

Rojas will be as good or better than Varland over time. As I’ve said many times here, if Louie was from Kenosha it wouldn’t be that big of a deal. Loved Louie as well but the talent trades is not a bad move for the organization.

I understand your point - but I still think it was a bad deal.  He is hitting almost .280 and playing SS for Houston.  Would have made Lee a utility player and maybe no Outman on the roster.

[karcherd]

46 minutes ago, mickster said:

I understand your point - but I still think it was a bad deal.  He is hitting almost .280 and playing SS for Houston.  Would have made Lee a utility player and maybe no Outman on the roster.

How do you equate Outman and Correa.  They play two completely separate roles and money is not a consideration with Outman.

[mickster]

9 minutes ago, karcherd said:

How do you equate Outman and Correa.  They play two completely separate roles and money is not a consideration with Outman.

meaning Lee would be a utility with Gray and Martin would be the OF for Outman.  Not a 1:1 change, just different roster construction.

[karcherd]

19 minutes ago, mickster said:

meaning Lee would be a utility with Gray and Martin would be the OF for Outman.  Not a 1:1 change, just different roster construction.

If Correa was still here, Gray never would have been on the opening day roster and let us get excited about a couple of good games.  Outman would still have been because he has no options left and the Twins are scared to DFA what they deem as an asset.  The real problem is that ERod is not up here for Outman.

[DJL44]

1 hour ago, JD-TWINS said:

Why?

Why does he NEED to & why is it best for him to make adjustments “in the majors”?

If a guy plays 26 games a month and he has 3-4 “decent games”, he’s not getting it done anywhere near a needed level. His Slug% is like Team has a pitcher hitting in his spot.

I like Luke - think he’s got a great future. Can’t help but like his attitude and style of play………..he’s got 7 stolen bases through April 28! There’s value for sure!! He needs a re-set over 2-3-4 weeks to get more comfortable. I realize he’s a wound up guy but he sure seems to be bringing an anxious (anxiety filled) look to the plate.

The simple answer is the thing Luke needs to work on is adjusting to major league pitchers and they don’t have those in AAA. Sending him to AAA for a “reset” just delays that work until he gets back from AAA.

”So 4/5 not done and we may be at .500.”

So what? This team should not spend any more time or talent chasing .500. There aren’t any third place trophies.

[laloesch]

2 hours ago, mickster said:

The BP not being good was a pretty much known thing once it was blown up last year.   I was thinking back on all of the trades. and how I feel about them now:

1.  Jax trade - do it again; yes

2. Castro, Columbe - yes do them again as they were not resigning

3.  Duran - I hated this one at the time and do miss him at the end of games.  However Abel and Tait have promise and I think I would do this one again.

4. Varland - bad, bad, bad.   Him back now and I think we have a couple of more wins.

5.  Correa trade - got rid of money: but how would we look with him having his 2026 year and playing SS for us.   Maybe another win or two.  The money dump didn't bring back anyone so we could have kept him.

 

So 4/5 not done and we may be at .500.

 

I doubt it.  #3 I'd do that trade again in a heart beat.  I think Abel and Tait are gonna be good but we'll have to wait and see on that one.  1-2 yep do them again.  #4 not so sure.  Roden was doing fine until the injury and Kendry Rojas hasn't really had a chance to show us anything yet. #5.  Absolutely the right move in my opinion.  The Correa trade topic has been discussed ad nauseum on these forums but I think it was 100% the right move to dump in back on the Stros.  WaYYYYYY to expensive for his offensive production.

[Colbeh]

13 hours ago, knothole61 said:

I'm increasingly disappointed by Caratini. There's a pretty big hole in the lineup when he spells Jeffers. I know one can't expect too much from a back-up catcher but I'm tired on watching him flail away at the plate, of late. 

In his defense he is currently one of the unluckiest hitters in the MLB right now with a BABIP of .234, while his average and most of the league is around. 290-310. 

Which also explains his gap of .211 BA and an expected BA of .255. Its not great but hes due positive regression. Hes a solid backup catcher/first basement