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I don't think it's any revelation the Twins' depth at SS is non-existent. There's Carlos Correa and then a bunch of guys who have no business at the position, but have been asked to play it in recent years. Orlando Arcia is a defensive specialist at SS with a bat that has trended down in the last couple of years, but it hasn't been unplayable with any significant sample size considering his defense. At least not unless you track it all the way back to 2018. The only real SS the Twins have who is MLB-ready is Will Holland. Holland is great defensively by all accounts, but he's barely been able to hold his own at the plate in the minors until just recently.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/05/braves-dfa-orlando-arcia-activate-ronald-acuna-jr.html

Would it be worth signing Arcia to a MiLB contract for depth protection with Correa being less reliable in recent seasons?

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I guess I don't get the argument against Will Holland and his poor bat but the argument for Arcia and his poor bat.

Stay the course, don't intentionally add another offensive black hole to the roster. These glove-only players float across waivers all year long. No need to grab this one just because he was a big name prospect a decade ago. If emergency action is required, they can grab whomever is desperate for a job at that time.

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7 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

I guess I don't get the argument against Will Holland and his poor bat but the argument for Arcia and his poor bat.

Stay the course, don't intentionally add another offensive black hole to the roster. These glove-only players float across waivers all year long. No need to grab this one just because he was a big name prospect a decade ago. If emergency action is required, they can grab whomever is desperate for a job at that time.

Holland's bat was weak to terrible in the minors until last year in a SSS with a career MiLB wRC+ 72. Arcia's had solid years of production at the MLB level, but he was rough last year. He's a MLB career wRC+ 77. Holland may well make Vazquez look like an MVP at the plate.

7 hours ago, DJL44 said:

Is Arcia any better than Brooks Lee?

Hitting? That's debatable, but I'd lean towards probably not. Fielding? Absolutely night and day. Brooks Lee can't handle SS.

It's a moot point, though. Arcia signed an MLB deal with the Rockies already.

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19 hours ago, bean5302 said:

Holland's bat was weak to terrible in the minors until last year in a SSS with a career MiLB wRC+ 72. Arcia's had solid years of production at the MLB level, but he was rough last year. He's a MLB career wRC+ 77. Holland may well make Vazquez look like an MVP at the plate.
 

When you're that bad with the bat, you're going to lose about as many games with a guy who has a .600 OPS as you are with a .500 OPS. The point of diminishing returns works the opposite direction too. No need to go out of your way to roster either player.

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On 5/27/2025 at 9:57 AM, nicksaviking said:

I guess I don't get the argument against Will Holland and his poor bat but the argument for Arcia and his poor bat.

Stay the course, don't intentionally add another offensive black hole to the roster. These glove-only players float across waivers all year long. No need to grab this one just because he was a big name prospect a decade ago. If emergency action is required, they can grab whomever is desperate for a job at that time.

This. 1000000000x this. 

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On 5/28/2025 at 9:37 AM, nicksaviking said:

When you're that bad with the bat, you're going to lose about as many games with a guy who has a .600 OPS as you are with a .500 OPS. The point of diminishing returns works the opposite direction too. No need to go out of your way to roster either player.

 

23 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

This. 1000000000x this. 

MiLB contract = not rostered.

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