All About the Ishbias: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly with the Twins' Potential New Owners

[Muppet]

Anyone else watching Unstable on netflix? I'm seeing an uncanny resemblance to the twins (on Unstable, not the baseball team). 

[arby58]

33 minutes ago, jmlease1 said:

Sure, but under the Wilfs the Vikings have reached the conference finals twice; during the same period, Jerry has gotten Dallas to the conference finals exactly never.

This is what is known as cherry picking.

[jmlease1]

1 hour ago, arby58 said:

This is what is known as cherry picking.

It's really not: it's a 20 year period where Dallas has utterly underperformed by the standards it supposedly set for itself and the expectations of the league. yes, jerry Jones won 3 super bowls as owner. but all of his real football success was in his first 7 years, and the teams were built when Jimmy Johnson had final say on football matters. That's not cherry-picking, it's context.

I can live with a Jerry Jones owner as long as it's initial Jerry, who could hire someone talented and let them do their job. Later jerry, who needed to get more credit, have more control, and play with his toys? No thanks. If you get the jerry from the last 20-25 years, you're probably not getting those early wins that he had.

[Jocko87]

57 minutes ago, Bigfork Twins Guy said:

You must not have been around in '87 when they picked up Don Baylor and  Jeff Reardon in-season and signed Dan Gladden and Shane Mack before the season.

In '91 it was Jack Morris, and Chili Davis.

Those rosters blended new-comers with developed talent from the farm system.

I do not agree that the owners at the time of those teams did not step up and add talent

This is correct, it’s not that the Pohlads don’t want to step up, it’s that the cost to step up has increased exponentially at a time when their main businesses are flat at best.

It’s the whole reason they are selling.  They are priced out. 

[Doc Lenz]

Assuming the other owners approve the sale if they are under criminal allegations?

[tony&rodney]

3 hours ago, Doc Lenz said:

Assuming the other owners approve the sale if they are under criminal allegations?

Apparently nobody cares a hoot if rich people commit crimes. So ..... APPROVED

[TheLeviathan]

It should be noted that the Vogel/meddling criticism lacks context.  These guys haven't acted like Jerry Jones.  They've put a demand on winning (not unlike the Wilfs) but they let their GM do their job.

Vogel didn't get fired by demand of the ownership group - he got fired because he and Kevin Durant were basically not on speaking terms.  That team was a mess and they didn't trust their coach.

There isn't much evidence we should be equating them with a Jerry Jones type.