Miguel Sano AA Promotion

[Twins Fan From Afar]

I tweeted this a couple hours ago, but will also share here:

Hearing rumblings that Sano will join the Rock Cats in a few weeks. FSL All-Star game is June 15....

[John Bonnes]

FYI - Andrew has been covering the New Britain Rock Cats for us.

[Seth Stohs]

I tweeted back to you saying that it means he'll be moving up to New Britain June 16. Several will move up to FM from Cedar Rapids at that time too.

[InfraRen]

Good deal!

[jorgenswest]

Arcia moved up at that time last year.

[Shane Wahl]

If the Twins really want to reward productivity, a few dozen players should be moving around that time (some of them immediately after the draft and the short seasons beginning).

[Twins Twerp]

I promise this is my last burn, but I sure hope Thylos wasn't the source of those rumblings. Also, I would be shocked if Sano AND Buxton didn't get call ups after all-star games. Shocked. I would also put my house (ok 1 bedroom apartment I pay rent on) that Rosario will be moved up. I would bet the over that Walker moves up to Ft. Myers. The 2 AA pitchers, I would think stay the entire year.

[Twins Fan From Afar]

Poor thrylos. Lol.

[ThePuck]

Poor thrylos. Lol.

 

yeah, it's only been how many months since that happened...but as long as it makes someone feel good, that's what counts...it's not like thrylos didn't get enough abuse for this a long time ago...

[Seth Stohs]

Arcia moved up at that time last year.

 

That's what people forget. Arcia was in Ft. Myers at this time last year... But, the Twins traditionally promote 2-4 players from FM to NB after the All-Star game, and the same from CR to FM. They're earned the nod, no harm in letting them get that recognition. 3 weeks isn't going to hurt a guy.

[jokin]

I promise this is my last burn, but I sure hope Thylos wasn't the source of those rumblings. Also, I would be shocked if Sano AND Buxton didn't get call ups after all-star games. Shocked. I would also put my house (ok 1 bedroom apartment I pay rent on) that Rosario will be moved up. I would bet the over that Walker moves up to Ft. Myers. The 2 AA pitchers, I would think stay the entire year.

 

Alex Meyer has the 2nd best FIP in the Eastern League (basically tied with Kevin Guasman, who debuts for the Orioles tonight). No reason to hold him back if spots open up above him.

[nicksaviking]

Alex Meyer has the 2nd best FIP in the Eastern League (basically tied with Kevin Guasman, who debuts for the Orioles tonight). No reason to hold him back if spots open up above him.

 

Not possible, the 10 rotation spots above him in AAA and the majors are filled with rock solid starters.

 

I'd like to see the Twins keep the dynamic duos together. I like the Sano/Rosario pairing and the Buxton/Walker pairing. Keep them together to keep some continuity and hopefully they push each other knowing they don't want to get left behind a level when their buddy gets moved. Of course this only goes if promotions are deserved, which at this point they are.

[jokin]

Not possible, the 10 rotation spots above him in AAA and the majors are filled with rock solid starters.

 

Of course this only goes if promotions are deserved, which at this point they are.

 

Sarcasm will get you nowhere on this board, the Twins apologists are apt to take you seriously!

 

Despite the unevenness of the M&M duo, I wouldn't be opposed to a joint promotion to AAA or to the Twins. Yesterday would suffice.

[PseudoSABR]

Before promoting Meyer (and this is somewhat the case with Gibson as well), it's important for the Twins to assess what they have as far as filling out the rotation. And I imagine that's what they'll continue to do all season, until Sept. when we might see Meyer.

[Twins Fan From Afar]

Alex Meyer has the 2nd best FIP in the Eastern League (basically tied with Kevin Guasman, who debuts for the Orioles tonight). No reason to hold him back if spots open up above him.

 

I've watched 2 of Meyer's starts in person. One last month, which I blogged about, and last night's. Neither were his best performances, so take that into account when you read the following:

 

Being completely honest, I think he still has work to do in AA. At times he's overpowering, and other times he loses control and composure, and becomes hittable. That being said, he's still our best pitching prospect. I'd be surprised if he lasted the entire season in New Britain, but I don't see him leaving after the Eastern League All-Star Game (being held in New Britain, by the way).

[Twins Twerp]

Since we are talking prospects, how long will May be a starter? Seriously, if he were to have the same or worse control issues, how long to you keep trying him as a starter. I know you do everything in your power to keep him starting. But at what point do you put a guy in the bullpen? Or do you wait until he proves he can't be a starter in majors like Perkins? This should be a thread all by itself but I thought I would ask.

[Twins Fan From Afar]

Since we are talking prospects, how long will May be a starter? Seriously, if he were to have the same or worse control issues, how long to you keep trying him as a starter. I know you do everything in your power to keep him starting. But at what point do you put a guy in the bullpen? Or do you wait until he proves he can't be a starter in majors like Perkins? This should be a thread all by itself but I thought I would ask.

 

That's a good question. Here's my uneducated opinion: especially considering this organization and the way we need SPs, you go as long as possible trying him as a starter. The control issue has to be solved, or contained, at some point, though, because he won't be effective as a reliever with this control problem, either.

[markos]

I've seen one of Meyer's starts as well, and I completely agree with Andrew. He still needs to work on his game-to-game and inning-to-inning consistency.

[drjim]

I've seen one of Meyer's starts as well, and I completely agree with Andrew. He still needs to work on his game-to-game and inning-to-inning consistency.

 

Are you not familiar with xFIP? Shouldn't that be driving all pitching promotion decisions?

[drjim]

That's a good question. Here's my uneducated opinion: especially considering this organization and the way we need SPs, you go as long as possible trying him as a starter. The control issue has to be solved, or contained, at some point, though, because he won't be effective as a reliever with this control problem, either.

 

I agree with this. Keep him as long as possible, hope the light switch goes on. But he probably ends up as a back of the bullpen guy, which would be an acceptable (if not the best) outcome.

 

I have a feeling he might get a couple innings in Minnesota in September.

[lightfoot789]

Who do you see leaving (promoted) at each respective level? and what happens to those individuals they replace? (cut / promoted as well)? Position players mainly?

[Twins Fan From Afar]

Are you not familiar with xFIP? Shouldn't that be driving all pitching promotion decisions?

 

Absolutely it should be playing a big, big role, especially on this Rock Cats team where there seem to be a minimum of 2 errors each game.

 

But I have to say that the human/maturity elements are a factor as I think about pitcher promotions, especially for young guys like Meyer. How does Meyer or May respond when there's an error behind them? I.e., do they struggle with the next batter, throwing balls, etc. And that's kind of what I've seen with Meyer the 14 or so innings I've watched him throw.

[drjim]

Absolutely it should be playing a big, big role, especially on this Rock Cats team where there seem to be a minimum of 2 errors each game.

 

But I have to say that the human/maturity elements are a factor as I think about pitcher promotions, especially for young guys like Meyer. How does Meyer or May respond when there's an error behind them? I.e., do they struggle with the next batter, throwing balls, etc. And that's kind of what I've seen with Meyer the 14 or so innings I've watched him throw.

 

I was kidding with my comment. I find the extent of conclusions drawn solely from stats around here to be a little much. I think the Twins are handling Meyer and May just fine.

 

On another note I really appreciate the coverage you provide.

[Twins Fan From Afar]

I was kidding with my comment. I find the extent of conclusions drawn solely from stats around here to be a little much. I think the Twins are handling Meyer and May just fine.

 

On another note I really appreciate the coverage you provide.

 

Ha! Totally missed that. But yea, this is a stats-heavy group.

Thanks for the comment!

[Shane Wahl]

Who do you see leaving (promoted) at each respective level? and what happens to those individuals they replace? (cut / promoted as well)? Position players mainly?

 

I would like to see a number of players promoted soon, from Sano and Buxton to Pinto and Koch. I would promote upwards and then get rid of the rampant filler at Rochester (Olmedo, Fryer, Thomas, Bernier, etc.).

[nicksaviking]

I was kidding with my comment. I find the extent of conclusions drawn solely from stats around here to be a little much. I think the Twins are handling Meyer and May just fine.

 

On another note I really appreciate the coverage you provide.

 

The front office agrees. They think xFIP is Trevor May's new DJ pseudonym.

[lightfoot789]

I would like to see a number of players promoted soon, from Sano and Buxton to Pinto and Koch. I would promote upwards and then get rid of the rampant filler at Rochester (Olmedo, Fryer, Thomas, Bernier, etc.).

 

Does the higher level prospect have to be expendable before they promote from below? or do you see some upcoming scenerio where some higher level prospects might hinder the promotion of lower level guys? Will some draft choices be made just to fill roster spots at lower levels, becasue of projected promotions?

[drjim]

The front office agrees. They think xFIP is Trevor May's new DJ pseudonym.

 

Now you assume the Twins FO knows something about music?

[Shane Wahl]

Does the higher level prospect have to be expendable before they promote from below? or do you see some upcoming scenerio where some higher level prospects might hinder the promotion of lower level guys? Will some draft choices be made just to fill roster spots at lower levels, becasue of projected promotions?

 

Well hopefully some of this year's draft will be worthy of starting at Cedar Rapids! There is Max Kepler who will hopefully be in Cedar Rapids soon. Other guys like Dereck Rodriguez, Rory Rhodes, Angel Mata, JT Chargois, et al will be likely headed to Cedar Rapids at some point this year. Things get crowded. What is good is that the teams shouldn't get much worse . . . replacing Sano, Rosario, Morales, and Vargas will be guys like Buxton, Walker, and DJ Hicks.

[diehardtwinsfan]

I see a lot of moves in a few weeks. I have to think that Rosario is coming up with Sano, and likely a few others from Fort Meyers as well. I suspect Baxendale, Darnel, Meyer, and even May will be headed up a level. Not that a promotion is going to help this, but better defense behind May might reduce some of those control problems if he's not always out there so long... The problem with that, truth be told, is that May isn't going to see better defenses in Rochester or Minnesota when he gets there.