cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted May 22, 2013 Author Posted May 22, 2013 Jason Churchill and Christopher Crawford put out Targets for 2013 Draft articles today. Yes, they are insider but here is what they said about the Twins. Draft Strategy:The Twins have been all over the board in recent years, taking collegians Kyle Gibson, Alex Wimmers and Levi Michael in the first round over the past four drafts. Along the way, however, they have mixed in upside high school picks, including Buxton at No. 2 overall a year ago. This draft has three players (Mark Appel, Jonathan Gray andKris Bryant) who are considered a cut above the rest, so the Twins could go in any number of directions at No. 4Possible fits were listed as Stewart, McGuire, and Meadows. This is what they said about Stewart: Stewart would fill the biggest need in the organization -- high-upside talent on the mound -- and he brings big-time athleticism to the table suggesting, having earned a scholarship to play QB at Texas A&M. The signing bonus he could at No. 4 would probably prevent him from setting foot on the college gridiron. List of article here:http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9285245/american-league-central-team-needs-targets-2013-mlb-draft
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 Yup. Stewart is my pick if the Big 3 are gone - good read!
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted May 23, 2013 Author Posted May 23, 2013 Think the Twins need pitchers in the upcoming draft?Want to know the best pitchers in the draft?or those of you playing catch up john Sickels released a pretty good article about the Key Pitchers in the 2013 draft. Link below: MLB 2013 draft: Key pitchers to know - SBNation.com
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted May 23, 2013 Author Posted May 23, 2013 BA released a best tool list for the 2013 Mlb draft. Here it is:Best Tools: 2013 Draft - BaseballAmerica.com
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 Say the Twins take Kohl Stewart (or another pitcher) at #4: if Ryan Boldt gets past the first round (because of injury) I'd be in favor of picking him in the 2nd. Obviously they'd have to know if he'd sign or not but I feel the home-state team would have a better shot at getting him to. Kid is a legit five tool guy. Probably wont develop a lot of power, but sounds like he's a devoted/diligent worker so who knows. Saw Thrylos pine for Hunter Dozier there too, that'd also be a mighty fine pick.
MNRebel Provisional Member Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Been a follower of Twins Daily since the beginning, but I had to register to post my thanks to all of you that have made this up-coming draft so interesting. Your knowledge of amateur baseball is greatly appreciated and I can't wait to get down to Cedar Rapids again to see our shiny new toy. We're gonna win Twins!
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted May 26, 2013 Author Posted May 26, 2013 Say the Twins take Kohl Stewart (or another pitcher) at #4: if Ryan Boldt gets past the first round (because of injury) I'd be in favor of picking him in the 2nd. Obviously they'd have to know if he'd sign or not but I feel the home-state team would have a better shot at getting him to. Kid is a legit five tool guy. Probably wont develop a lot of power, but sounds like he's a devoted/diligent worker so who knows. Saw Thrylos pine for Hunter Dozier there too, that'd also be a mighty fine pick. Welcome to the forums! Its a great group here and I'm glad you have enjoyed the draft coverage. Last years draft brought in a ton of talent so hopefully this one will too.
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 @DarrenWolfson: #MNTwins are bringing players into town for looks before the Draft. One coming, per a source: HS LHP Hunter Green. He'd be in mix at No. 43.
beckmt Verified Member Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 I would also like the Twins to take a chance on Stewart if the top 3 are gone. We need swing and miss pitching and this kid could be special.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 A few draft notes from Christopher crawford: Gray went 9 innings, 3 hits, 12/1 k/bb ratio. Note from a scout:"It was impressive,” an AL scout said. “When you throw as hard as he does and then come back with a slider like that, it really isn’t fair. The last couple of weeks he struggled to finish off hitters, but that obviously wasn’t the case today. If the changeup gets anywhere near the level the other two pitches get, then you have a special prospect. But he’s pretty darn good without it.” Appel went 8 innings, 1 ER, 3 hits, 9/1 k/bb ratio: note from an NL scout“I’m glad his year is over, to be honest with you,” an NL Scout said. “There really isn’t anything more to learn about the guy. I’m sure as a competitor he’d love to be out there playing in the tournament but there’s nothing left for him to prove, he’s the most complete pitcher in this class and it isn’t particularly close.” Manaea didn't pitch this week but here is the note from a scout:"He’s not a first round prospect to me,” an NL scout said. “I don’t see how he can be. When you’re fastball is sitting mid 80’s a couple of weeks ago with a 45 (on the 20-80 scouting scale) slider and 50 change, that’s a back end starter. I’m not taking a back end starter in the first thirty picks.”
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 Oh, and another not from Christopher Crawford: Bryant had a good weekend 3 walks, HR, double and a few hits. Here is what a NL scout had to say:"I’ve said all year that it’s not just about Bryant’s power,” an NL West scout told me. “Obviously that’s the standout tool, but he’s not a one note guy. Does he get pitched around? Of course, but a lot of hitters will get frustrated by that and get too aggressive. That hasn’t been the case for him. I think he’s got star potential in his bat.”
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 @DarrenWolfson: #MNTwins are bringing players into town for looks before the Draft. One coming, per a source: HS LHP Hunter Green. He'd be in mix at No. 43. Kieth Law has Green ranked 51 and here is what he has to say about him:Green has been wildly inconsistent this year, looking like a first-rounder some outings and a borderline prospect in others, making him a sort of lottery pick where if your number comes up, you get an elite prospect.He has been up to 95 mph this spring (and sometimes has pitched in the 80s), with 90-93 more typical, showing good two-seam life on the pitch. His changeup flashes above-average at 80-82 with hard fading action, while his breaking ball is slurvy at 75-80, sometimes a true curve with some two-plane action, but often just flipped out of his hand for an easy chase pitch against high school hitters. His delivery is a little rough, drifting off the rubber early, with a moderate stride and some occasional head violence, but he turns his arm over early and finishes well out front.He is extremely projectable, and a lefty with this kind of room to fill out who has already shown plus velocity is very intriguing, but he'll need to throw more strikes and develop that breaking ball further.
righty8383 Verified Member Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 You're doing a hell of of a job cmb. Lots of good info here. Just wanted to say that...
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 You're doing a hell of of a job cmb. Lots of good info here. Just wanted to say that... Thanks! Glad I can help. I enjoy following the draft and the Twins minor leagues so I figured I would post some information this year. Seeing the talent the Twins added last year via the draft makes me excited knowing they can do it again this year.
70charger Verified Member Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 Thanks! Glad I can help. I enjoy following the draft and the Twins minor leagues so I figured I would post some information this year. Seeing the talent the Twins added last year via the draft makes me excited knowing they can do it again this year. You really are doing a good job. With all the overt negativity around here lately, it's nice to get some posts with reasoned analysis. So thank you.
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 Darren Wolfson @DarrenWolfson4mThe precise date the #MNTwins are bringing HS LHP Hunter Green (& possibly other draft prospects) into town for a look is next Monday.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted May 28, 2013 Author Posted May 28, 2013 Darren Wolfson @DarrenWolfson4mThe precise date the #MNTwins are bringing HS LHP Hunter Green (& possibly other draft prospects) into town for a look is next Monday. Talent wise Green fits perfectly in at 43rd pick range. Have seen him on draft boards from 31-54. The biggest question I have is IF the Twins take Stewart at #4 would the front office take two HS pitchers in a row? Out of their last 5 drafts they have only taken 2 HS pitchers out of their 33 picks in the top 5 rounds. This draft is flushed with HS arms so I hope they do.
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 Talent wise Green fits perfectly in at 43rd pick range. Have seen him on draft boards from 31-54. The biggest question I have is IF the Twins take Stewart at #4 would the front office take two HS pitchers in a row? Out of their last 5 drafts they have only taken 2 HS pitchers out of their 33 picks in the top 5 rounds. This draft is flushed with HS arms so I hope they do. I then asked him about Twins potential interest in Ryan Boldt at 43 if he fell: Darren Wolfson @DarrenWolfson 1m@InfraRen Not sure he lasts until No. 43. ... I think the Twins go pitcher and catcher or pitcher and pitcher w/ first two picks.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted May 28, 2013 Author Posted May 28, 2013 I then asked him about Twins potential interest in Ryan Boldt at 43 if he fell: Darren Wolfson @DarrenWolfson 1m@InfraRen Not sure he lasts until No. 43. ... I think the Twins go pitcher and catcher or pitcher and pitcher w/ first two picks. Nice! Pitcher/pitcher would be solid with how this draft class is setting up.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 Talent wise Green fits perfectly in at 43rd pick range. Have seen him on draft boards from 31-54. The biggest question I have is IF the Twins take Stewart at #4 would the front office take two HS pitchers in a row? Out of their last 5 drafts they have only taken 2 HS pitchers out of their 33 picks in the top 5 rounds. This draft is flushed with HS arms so I hope they do. Should have taken HS arms last year, instead of injured college relief pitchers......let's hope they learned their lesson.
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 Yeah, I'd be pretty dang overjoyed with a Kohl Stewart and Hunter Green as our first two picks. Maybe then we could take Royal Blue in the 3rd.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted May 28, 2013 Author Posted May 28, 2013 Article about who Green is visiting. Includes Rangers/Rays who both have multiple late 1st round picks and Atalanta. Green working out for pro teams this week - Bowling Green Daily News: Sports
Einstein Verified Member Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 Article about who Green is visiting. Includes Rangers/Rays who both have multiple late 1st round picks and Atalanta. Green working out for pro teams this week - Bowling Green Daily News: Sports110 strikeouts and a 0.14 ERA in 51 2/3. A fastball that can reach mid 90's. Left-handed. I'm not sure that Green will make it to the Twins in round 2. I'd love it if he did.
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 Tweet exchange between me and Kiley McDaniel today: Andrew Renny@InfraRen@kileymcd we know Kohl Stewart in 1st, but any non-1st rounders that the Twins are looking at? (Boldt, H.Green?)Kiley McDaniel@kileymcd3@InfraRen Boldt obviously and Logan Shore as they like to know local kids better than other clubs. Luis Guillorme too. I haven't researched Shore/Guillorme at all yet - will, but anyone got any intel on them?
howieramone1406390264 Verified Member Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 Should have taken HS arms last year, instead of injured college relief pitchers......let's hope they learned their lesson. Why? Early returns are they are quite pleased. You honestly believe they deliberately drafted injured players?
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Tweet exchange between me and Kiley McDaniel today: Andrew Renny@InfraRen Kiley McDaniel@kileymcd3 I haven't researched Shore/Guillorme at all yet - will, but anyone got any intel on them? Did a little bit of digging, based on BA's top 500: [TABLE=class: table-hover, width: 610]199Logan Shore, rhp, Coon Rapids (Minn.) HS[/TABLE] [TABLE=class: table-hover, width: 610]218Luis Guillorme, ss, Coral Springs (Fla.) HS[/TABLE]
rickyhawaii Provisional Member Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Shore seems pretty locked in to go to Florida. MLBtraderumors.com had a post that the Twins won't be drafting Shore in the second round. Maybe Shore will fall past the 10th round and the Twins can draft and try to sign like Malinowski. One prospect i like but haven't heard too much ravings about is HS OF Jordan Paroubeck. He's got really quick bat speed, he's a switch hitter and his swing looks the same from both sides of the plate. His dad and Barry Bonds were HS buddies and Paroubeck's gotten private lessons..(hopefully not on juicing). Paroubeck is committed to fresno state. he's on Mayo's top 100
30whales Verified Member Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 What do you think of the Twins drafting LJ Mazzilli again?
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Charley Walters: Minnesota Twins don't always draft for need (see Byron Buxton) By Charley Walterscwalters@pioneerpress.comPosted: 05/28/2013 12:01:00 AM CDTUpdated: 05/28/2013 11:29:11 PM CDT http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site569/2013/0528/20130528__130529BUXTON_400.jpgByron Buxton, shown playing in high school in 2011, is hitting .324 at Class A Cedar Rapids this season. (AP Photo/Appling County High School)The major league baseball amateur draft begins in nine days, on June 6, and lasts through June 9. The Twins have the No. 4 overall pick and need pitching. "Last year, we needed pitching," said Twins vice president for player personnel Mike Radcliff, who oversees the draft. But last year, the Twins had the No. 2 overall pick and drafted high school outfielder Byron Buxton. "At this moment, I'm pretty sure we took what many people thought was something we didn't need, a center fielder," Radcliff said. "I think (Buxton's) off to such a start that people believe he's going to be a really, really good player." That's a good bet. Buxton, 19, through 48 games at Class A Cedar Rapids is hitting .324 with 11 doubles, five triples and seven home runs and is expected to be promoted to the more accelerated Class A at Fort Myers before long. But, Radcliff admits, the Twins still need pitching. "I'm sure we'll address pitching overall," he said. "But will it be with the first pick? That's a little hard to say. We're going to try to pick who we think is the best guy available when it's our turn." Signing Buxton at No. 2 cost the Twins a $6 million bonus. At No. 4 this year, Major League Baseball has slotted nearly $4 million for that pick's signing bonus. There are several elite pitchers available for next week's draft, and it's no secret who they are: right-handers Jonathan Gray from Oklahoma, Mark Appel from Stanford and high schooler Kohl Stewart from Houston. But there also are a couple of power-hitting third basemen -- Kris Bryant from San Diego and Colin Moran from North Carolina. It'll be surprising if the Twins' top pick isn't from those five prospects. "We don't have an exact name; we're down to a certain group of names," Radcliff said. "We've got to take the best player. We'll get a good player to pick at No. 4 and another one at 43." The Twins also will have the No. 78 pick. I think BPA and need align perfectly, and that Kohl Stewart will be the pick. Whole article: http://www.twincities.com/news/ci_23336471
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Yeah, unless something wacky happens - Astros throwing a curve ball or Stewart getting hurt before the draft - I think he's the pick. I admit I don't know that much about Stewart. Does anyone know if he's considered a potentially fast moving prospect like Berrios or does he need to learn control/command and still grow into his body?
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