CJ Cron vs. Miguel Sanó: Did the Twins Swing and Miss?

[Kipp35]

13 hours ago, se7799 said:

Were and when have you seen the Twins honor and listen to Tom Kelly at spring training?  Last I seen him there was 5 years ago.  I'm guessing you are thinking close to 8+ years ago.

He is continually a 'special guest'.

[Stew]

Brandon27  is right. I said  as soon as Cron was a free agent get him back. Sano is the  worst fielding first baseman. He  played a big part in us loosing to Boston with his error. I know we will be looking at pitchers but a first baseman makes sense

 

 

[old nurse]

1 hour ago, Twodogs said:

I also wonder if Sano's numbers look different if he played 81 games at Coors field?

Not the K%

[Seth Stohs]

Imagine the numbers Sano would put up in Colorado where the air is light and breaking pitches don't break as much. 

[Squirrel]

11 minutes ago, Seth Stohs said:

Imagine the numbers Sano would put up in Colorado where the air is light and breaking pitches don't break as much. 

Good point. Numbers aren't always created equally or evenly.

[dex8425]

On 4/18/2022 at 2:40 PM, Major League Ready said:

I would much prefer that Sano plays well enough to be traded and they move Kirilloff to 1B for the majority of games.

That would be ideal. 

[dex8425]

46 minutes ago, Seth Stohs said:

Imagine the numbers Sano would put up in Colorado where the air is light and breaking pitches don't break as much. 

Well Cron's OPS+ in 2021 was 131, which is park adjusted. Sano was good for 113 OPS+ last year. So...Sano's numbers would be worse than CJ Cron...?

[dex8425]

7 hours ago, Twodogs said:

I also wonder if Sano's numbers look different if he played 81 games at Coors field?

That's why you look at park adjusted stats like OPS+ when comparing players from different teams. Especially Red Sox and Rockies players (hitters parks) but also Oakland players (pitchers park). Sano was quite a bit less valuable than Cron last year (131 OPS+ to 113 OPS+) even not considering Sano's awful defense. 

[Twodogs]

On 4/19/2022 at 7:29 AM, old nurse said:

Not the K%

Yeah that's for sure

[Stew]

Presently half of cj crons hr's are away from corrs field. And the air in Colorado doesn't affect batting average and on base percentage. Sano avg. before his annual injury is .093.