Article: Could the Twins Sign Zack Greinke?

[Boom Boom]

Way too much gets made of Grienke's anxiety disorder.

 

I guarantee you that there are dozens of MLB players who also have anxiety disorders, but we've just never heard of it because they never sought help.

[twinsnorth49]

Wow, between Mauer's "aww schucks, give a 110%" Midwestern demeanor and Greinke's mental health issues, we would we would have about $300 million of money tied up in two guys with virtually no chance of serving any type of leadership purpose on this team.

 

I'll take lead by example for $1000 Alex

 

Mauer- .319/.416/.861, all just off his career average, a year after missing 80 games.

 

Grienke- 8K/9, 3.51 K/BB ratio, career.

 

I'll take that over some guy throwing cliches at me about how we have to "win one for the Gipper" and doing jumping jacks.

[Kwak]

Wow, between Mauer's "aww schucks, give a 110%" Midwestern demeanor and Greinke's mental health issues, we would we would have about $300 million of money tied up in two guys with virtually no chance of serving any type of leadership purpose on this team.

 

I'll take lead by example for $1000 Alex

 

Mauer- .319/.416/.861, all just off his career average, a year after missing 80 games.

 

Grienke- 8K/9, 3.51 K/BB ratio, career.

 

I'll take that over some guy throwing cliches at me about how we have to "win one for the Gipper" and doing jumping jacks.

Am I to infer that if Mauer were to say "We gotta win for Gardy", would not suffice to motivate all and turn things around?

[notoriousgod71]

Wow, between Mauer's "aww schucks, give a 110%" Midwestern demeanor and Greinke's mental health issues, we would we would have about $300 million of money tied up in two guys with virtually no chance of serving any type of leadership purpose on this team.

 

I'll take lead by example for $1000 Alex

 

Mauer- .319/.416/.861, all just off his career average, a year after missing 80 games.

 

Grienke- 8K/9, 3.51 K/BB ratio, career.

 

I'll take that over some guy throwing cliches at me about how we have to "win one for the Gipper" and doing jumping jacks.

Am I to infer that if Mauer were to say "We gotta win for Gardy", would not suffice to motivate all and turn things around?

 

 

I much prefer Ugueth Urbina's "Win one or I'll ****ing kill you."

[Fire Dan Gladden]

I much prefer Ugueth Urbina's "Win one or I'll ****ing kill you.

 

And we have a winner for best motivational quote of the year!

[twinsnorth49]

Wow, between Mauer's "aww schucks, give a 110%" Midwestern demeanor and Greinke's mental health issues, we would we would have about $300 million of money tied up in two guys with virtually no chance of serving any type of leadership purpose on this team.

 

I'll take lead by example for $1000 Alex

 

Mauer- .319/.416/.861, all just off his career average, a year after missing 80 games.

 

Grienke- 8K/9, 3.51 K/BB ratio, career.

 

I'll take that over some guy throwing cliches at me about how we have to "win one for the Gipper" and doing jumping jacks.

Am I to infer that if Mauer were to say "We gotta win for Gardy", would not suffice to motivate all and turn things around?

 

I believe that inference wold be accurate, yes.

[twinsnorth49]

Wow, between Mauer's "aww schucks, give a 110%" Midwestern demeanor and Greinke's mental health issues, we would we would have about $300 million of money tied up in two guys with virtually no chance of serving any type of leadership purpose on this team.

 

I'll take lead by example for $1000 Alex

 

Mauer- .319/.416/.861, all just off his career average, a year after missing 80 games.

 

Grienke- 8K/9, 3.51 K/BB ratio, career.

 

I'll take that over some guy throwing cliches at me about how we have to "win one for the Gipper" and doing jumping jacks.

Am I to infer that if Mauer were to say "We gotta win for Gardy", would not suffice to motivate all and turn things around?

 

 

I much prefer Ugueth Urbina's "Win one or I'll ****ing kill you."

 

That is a classic, you're right much better. I'm not sure it would have the same level of crazy, scary coming from Mauer.

[BBWriterMan]

Sign Greinke and deal Span for another mid-level starter? That sounds like a good plan to me

[ericchri]

Take out his 2009 Cy Young season and he doesn't look all that special. He's a very good pitcher, significantly better than anything the Twins have, but not worthy of 5+ years and $90+ million dollars. Being the best FA pitcher on the market any given year does wonders for the inflation of salary for said player (see Wilson, C.J., or Lackey, John). That one season just looks crazy amongst all his other seasons, it's so much better than any of his others. And for someone who's now pitched in the majors for 9 years (though he missed most of a season back in '06), it's hard to believe he's ever getting anywhere near that '09 season again. Figure on seasons of around 100-120 ERA+ (i.e. occasionally average, occasionally very good) from him from here on out. A drastic improvement if you're the Twins, but they can't afford what he's probably going to get for what he's probably going to contribute.

[kab21]

Take out his 2009 Cy Young season and he doesn't look all that special. He's a very good pitcher, significantly better than anything the Twins have, but not worthy of 5+ years and $90+ million dollars. Being the best FA pitcher on the market any given year does wonders for the inflation of salary for said player (see Wilson, C.J., or Lackey, John). That one season just looks crazy amongst all his other seasons, it's so much better than any of his others. And for someone who's now pitched in the majors for 9 years (though he missed most of a season back in '06), it's hard to believe he's ever getting anywhere near that '09 season again. Figure on seasons of around 100-120 ERA+ (i.e. occasionally average, occasionally very good) from him from here on out. A drastic improvement if you're the Twins, but they can't afford what he's probably going to get for what he's probably going to contribute.

 

He's that guy that pitches like an ace but just hasn't been able to have that ace type season (except in '09). You've also kind of summed up the problems with signing FA starters. ALL OF THEM get overpaid. I like signing Greinke for 5/90 a lot more than a lesser and older starter for 4/50. Greinke's a workhorse that you can count on for 200+ innings of 3.50 or better pitcher. And I still think he pitches like that ace that the stats say he is.

 

Reasons that you sign Greinke (stats since he secured a full time rotation spot)

K rate

8.14

9.50

7.50

10.54

8.48

 

BB rate

2-2.50 every season

 

Innings

202

229

220

171 - offseason basketball injury

212