Law: "The White Sox got a steal in Liriano"

[syves]

I just like looking through the comments at the time of the trade. Whether or not the trade was an overwhelming success, i don't think many of the comments made at the beginning of this thread could be considered accurate at this point.

[snepp]

I'm glad I didn't comment in this thread. I'd probably have to give myself a quadruple facepalm now.

[drjim]

My takeaway is that no matter the facts of the situation the same group of people are going to criticize the front office.

 

I'm consistently amazed that people live that miserable of an existence and bring it on a message board for the whole world to share in.

[ashbury]

Florimon?

 

Escobar > Florimon. I was fine with going with the Florimonster to start the season, just to make sure, but the two players are demonstrating who is the better one to keep on a 40-man. This is why Florimon was available on irrevocable waivers before, and why Escobar (to my knowledge) has not been.

[Mike Sixel]

I stick by my comment. They got "meh" players for a guy they were not going to keep. B-. Sounds accurate to me. A couple of good weeks by Excobar has not changed my opinion at all.

[70charger]

I just like looking through the comments at the time of the trade. Whether or not the trade was an overwhelming success, i don't think many of the comments made at the beginning of this thread could be considered accurate at this point.

 

I'm very happy with my response to this trade, in case anyone cares.

 

What's that? No one?

 

 

...okay.

[drivlikejehu]

Escobar > Florimon. I was fine with going with the Florimonster to start the season, just to make sure, but the two players are demonstrating who is the better one to keep on a 40-man. This is why Florimon was available on irrevocable waivers before, and why Escobar (to my knowledge) has not been.

 

The Twins are the ones who have started Florimon over Escobar for the most part. But the point isn't to split hairs. Marginal guys like that are available, one way or another. The Twins got Burton for basically nothing and he's now a quality set up man. That's much more of a coup.

 

I wasn't against the trade at all, by the way. It's just not a correct analysis to base everything on hindsight. The White Sox knew they were taking a risk. It didn't pan out. But they gave up a couple AAAA players, who just don't have much value even if they can fill a role. Someone else just as easily could do the same thing.

[IdahoPilgrim]

I just like looking through the comments at the time of the trade. Whether or not the trade was an overwhelming success, i don't think many of the comments made at the beginning of this thread could be considered accurate at this point.

 

Shame on you for reminding people of what they said last year on this topic.

 

Now watch...Liriano will go on a tear for about 6 weeks this summer and be lights out, and many of the same people will be blaming the FO for letting him get away. Then he'll fade away in late summer, as is his custom, and it will all be forgotten again.

[cmathewson]

I'm very happy with my response to this trade, in case anyone cares.

 

What's that? No one?

 

 

...okay.

 

I care. This was a steal.....for the Twins. It is a win for the Twins scouts, who were able to look through the numbers to find a couple of hidden gems. As Reusse recently wrote, the Twins got more for Liriano than they got for Santana. I'm still not sure about that. If they had held onto Hardy, not so much. But even getting close is a great win.

[ashbury]

The Twins are the ones who have started Florimon over Escobar for the most part. But the point isn't to split hairs. Marginal guys like that are available, one way or another.

 

Sure, guys are available. Ones like Florimon are available via waiver. Other guys are not; Escobar so far is in that latter category. Using, as you did, Florimon as some sort of evidence that Escobar is not of value ("marginal" or whatever) is just not valid. People have been banging sticks on the ground for a while now that Escobar and Florimon are interchangeable, but the minor league record says they are not, the transactions wire says they are not, and the evidence so far this season says they are not.

[diehardtwinsfan]

I wish Terry Ryan in my fantasy league. It is always nice having the clueless manager you can fleece at any time. I'm sure that is how other MLB execs view TR.

 

Before stepping down the last time, Ryan had quite the reputation for being a shrewed trader. Brian Sabean certainly won't be calling him again.

 

I'm glad this was my only interaction in this thread. Truth be told, it's safe to say that the Twins won if for no other reason than that they have gotten some value out of the guys they acquired, who might I add will remain on the team for many more years.

 

That said, I am not yet ready to call it lopsided, though if Escobar continues to do what he's doing, it likely will be at one point. I'm a bit surprised he has not gotten the every day chance just yet.