Article: Seth's Midseason Twins Top 40 Prospect Rankings: Part 2 (11-20)

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Since Thorpe was signed 5 years ago, does that mean he needs to be added to the 40 man this off-season? Or do the Twins still have another year or so before that needs to happen?

I believe Seth is correct, Thorpe would be Rule 5 eligible this winter as he was signed under 18 and this would be his 5th Rule 5 draft upcoming.

 

With all of the time he has spent in rookie leagues and disabled lists, though, I believe he will also be eligible for a 4th option year, for what it's worth.

[drivlikejehu]

Walker can't hit or throw . . . I mean, this is baseball, right? I have him outside the top 40.

 

Palka is a better prospect but I don't think top 20 . . . he doesn't have defensive value and it's questionable whether he can hit for a decent average. I could see him being a role player though.

[Mike Sixel]

Looking forward to seeing what Wade does when he moves up after June. Nice list. Thanks Seth.

[bluechipper]

Randy Rosario is at 5.3 K/9 right now. A left hander who throws mid 90's... What's that all about?

[Seth Stohs]

 

Walker can't hit or throw . . . I mean, this is baseball, right? I have him outside the top 40.

 

Palka is a better prospect but I don't think top 20 . . . he doesn't have defensive value and it's questionable whether he can hit for a decent average. I could see him being a role player though.

 

Not saying you're right or wrong, but I'd  be very curious of your top 30 or 40 and who all you would have ahead of them... With both, there are certainly holes and question marks, but that's true of any organization's 11-20 and beyond, and frankly, all prospects. 

[Seth Stohs]

 

Randy Rosario is at 5.3 K/9 right now. A left hander who throws mid 90's... What's that all about?

 

I don't know. Maybe it's pitch mix. Maybe it's straight. Maybe he gets behind often. I'll do more digging, of course... but I care more about 'stuff' for guys at that level than numbers... though I'd say that's kind of the line.

[Thrylos]

I don't see how Thorpe can be that high without throwing a single pitch the last 2 seasons.  If Meyer dropped that much, the same logic should push Thorpe way back.

 

Meyer still has the highest ceiling that any pitcher in the organization.  If you are ranking ceiling, he should be #1.  If you are ranking likelihood to achieve or floor, (which seems to be the case here,) Thorpe should fall also big time...

 

Glad to finally see Walker where he should be

 

Hard to argue with these, other than Wander Javier (btw good to see a Twins' player never to step foot in the US as a pro included) placement.  Comparing his situation with that of Nick Gordon 2 years ago, should have him higher (and his ceiling is higher than Gordon's).

 

 

Edited June 8, 2016 by Thrylos

[nyazbeck]

Is half your top 10 the ft Myers rotation

[drivlikejehu]

 

Not saying you're right or wrong, but I'd  be very curious of your top 30 or 40 and who all you would have ahead of them... With both, there are certainly holes and question marks, but that's true of any organization's 11-20 and beyond, and frankly, all prospects. 

 

I don't think Walker will be able to sustain above-replacement-level production in the Majors (assuming he gets the chance), so it's pretty easy for other prospects to be ranked ahead of him in my view. I agree with the general gist of your rankings, so I'd have him behind most of those you've listed.

 

Palka to me is borderline top 20 . . . basically I'd rather have some of the younger lotto tickets like Diaz because there is still a lot of time for them to develop. Palka is 24 1/2 and has contact problems at AA, so while it could come together for him, he seems like a guy without a high floor or high upside.

[shs_59]

Trey Cabbage reminds me a little bit of Chipper Jones, now the only way that comes to fruition if he gets some serious help from MLB guys like Mauer , Plouffe ect.

 

If Cabbage turns out to be 65% as good as Chipper we'd all take that and run!

 

I wish I was as high on Palka as Seth is, but frankly i'm simply not.

 

He looks like Parmelee 2.0  at best  he's essentially a clankly defensively 1B or LF type who will strike out 120 to 150 times annually, sure he might have a bit more power than Parmelee ever showed sans that one September but Palka just strikes me as more of a 4 A masher than anything else.

 

I have Palka in the 17, 18 range , so I still like him but 11 seems a bit high right now.

 

 

[Shaitan]

 

Not Seth, but personally I'd like to see how he handles repeating AAA next season.  But yeah, he's a DFA candidate at some point (probably when those options expire).  He might be able to carve out that pinch hit bat off the bench type career.  He's definitely a guy I want at the plate with bases loaded and down by a couple. 

 

Ideally with 1 or fewer outs.

[Seth Stohs]

 

Is half your top 10 the ft Myers rotation

 

Pretty close.

[Seth Stohs]

 

I don't see how Thorpe can be that high without throwing a single pitch the last 2 seasons.  If Meyer dropped that much, the same logic should push Thorpe way back.

 

Meyer still has the highest ceiling that any pitcher in the organization.  If you are ranking ceiling, he should be #1.  If you are ranking likelihood to achieve or floor, (which seems to be the case here,) Thorpe should fall also big time...

 

Glad to finally see Walker where he should be

 

Hard to argue with these, other than Wander Javier (btw good to see a Twins' player never to step foot in the US as a pro included) placement.  Comparing his situation with that of Nick Gordon 2 years ago, should have him higher (and his ceiling is higher than Gordon's).

 

Thorpe is 20. Meyer is 26. 

[Bob Sacamento]

 

Trey Cabbage reminds me a little bit of Chipper Jones, now the only way that comes to fruition if he gets some serious help from MLB guys like Mauer , Plouffe ect.

 

If Cabbage turns out to be 65% as good as Chipper we'd all take that and run!

 

Next time I see Trey I'll tell him, he'll love the comp.  I'm pretty sure Chipper is one of the guys he models after or at the very least is one of his favorite players.