I have a strong feeling...

[DaveW]

In the case of Liriano and co, it's not so much "sell low" it's more "hurry up and sell while you can!!" Since they were impending free agents on a non contending team.

[drjim]

 

I was just commenting that Ryan has previously sold guys at their low point, while acknowledging it was a different situation.

I don't get the feeling Ryan is a buy low/sell high guy. He seems like he just reacts to what other GM's present to him. I'm pretty sure he's gone on record saying that he doesn't initiate deals, he waits for others to come to him. I think he makes his decisions based on necessity and supply.

 

Span and Revere were absolutely sell high situations.

 

And trading a guy with at peak value with years of control left vs. flipping guys on the last year of their deal (Ryan also didn't trade Delmon) is such a different calculus.

 

I agree he does not go out of his way to sell high anymore now that he has more financial resources, but I'm not sure if that is a bad things. Track record of those types of deals are mixed.

[nicksaviking]

 

Span and Revere were absolutely sell high situations.

 

And trading a guy with at peak value with years of control left vs. flipping guys on the last year of their deal (Ryan also didn't trade Delmon) is such a different calculus.

 

I agree he does not go out of his way to sell high anymore now that he has more financial resources, but I'm not sure if that is a bad things. Track record of those types of deals are mixed.

 

The Span and Revere trandes never felt like sell high moments, but more of supply issue.  The Twins thought they had enough outfielders and were lacking young starting pitching.  Getting Meyer when they did didn't seem like a buy low moment either.

[spinowner]

 

The Span and Revere trandes never felt like sell high moments, but more of supply issue.  The Twins thought they had enough outfielders and were lacking young starting pitching.  Getting Meyer when they did didn't seem like a buy low moment either.

I think the Span trade was probably pursued mutually by the teams involved but Philadelphia initiated the Revere trade. I would not trade May back to the Phillies for Revere, and if Worley would have worked out better it would have been even more advantageous for the Twins. I remember Patrick Reusse commenting that you don't turn down a deal when the other team is willing to overpay. It did lead to Aaron Hicks being moved up too fast but it's looking like he'll be OK long term, so good on TR. 

[drjim]

 

The Span and Revere trandes never felt like sell high moments, but more of supply issue.  The Twins thought they had enough outfielders and were lacking young starting pitching.  Getting Meyer when they did didn't seem like a buy low moment either.

 

By this definition aren't all trades supply trades? Do teams trade guys and create holes in their rosters often?

 

Teams probably engage in arbitrage more freely than the Twins, but I'm not sure it is sell high in the sense that it is being described here. I think that is mostly a myth because it is more of a zero sum transaction than a mutually beneficial trade that most are.

[HitInAPinch]

I wouldn't trade either.  Meyer may turn out to be a late bloomer.  He needs to get his head back into the game again.  Arcia:  where else does the next Twins power hitter come from?  I get Adam Brett Walker, but unless MLB hitting to him turns out to be what Sano thinks, ABW has a couple MiLB seasons to work on reducing those strikeouts.  Arcia has proven himself as a MLB hitter.  And I don't think his overall defense is as horrible as many think. 

[beckmt]

I have stated in another post, that if you trade Arcia, offseason is when it happens. Unless you can get a catcher rental for a very cheap price(AJ), I do not see moves being made. Same with extra bullpen help. I am sure the Twins will cycle through the AAA and AA bullpens and see if anyone there can help first unless a very good deal falls into there laps.

[Blackjack]

 

I have stated in another post, that if you trade Arcia, offseason is when it happens.

 

It all depends what some other team is willing to offer, if the price is right, ship him out.

 

That being said, I wouldn't trade Arcia, too much potential, too much power, you don't see that every day.

 

I'm not really an Arcia fan, he seems like too much of a head case, kind of like Gomez, but Gomez turned into a pretty good player!!!  He'll be up within a month, either because the Twins are slumping or because of an injury.

[Dman]

I don't see the Twins trading Arcia as he is the only Left handed power bat that they really have.  I agree with other posters that trading one or both of the utility guys is most likely as Arcia can be more valuable in hitting situations than they are off the bench.  He can play outfield if he has to.  If the Twins do decide to trade Pouffe then Arcia should be in the mix to DH.  I don't see them trading him.