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Does this 2024 Minnesota Twins team actually platoon a lot???


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You bet your sweet bippy they do.  They do platoon.  A lot.  My apologies for the click-bait subject line.  (It's fun.  Almost went with "One Weird Trick Your 2024 Twins Use To Platoon")

How do the Twins rank versus the other 29 teams, in plate appearances by batters in same-arm matchups?

LHB-vs-LHP:   29th  (64 PA, OPS of .759 which is 5th in the majors)

RHB-vs-RHP: 23rd  (752 PA, OPS of .680 which is 15th in the majors)

They try their darndest not to let it happen, especially with their lefty bats.  And here is how they do in opposite arm matchups:

RHB-vs-LHP:  7th  (520 PA, OPS of .707 which is 16th in the majors)

LHB-vs-RHP:  6th  (920 PA, OPS of .693 which is 18th in the majors)

What is the point of these numbers?  One, in case you wondered whether they go to great lengths to set up favorable hitting matchups, yes, yes they do.  Two, they aren't notably effective at exploiting these matchups.  Three, an oddity is that their unfavorable lefty matchups rank better in OPS versus their competitors than their favorable ones do.

Maybe the modest level of success at bat this season (they rank 16th overall in OPS) would be worse if they weren't doing things as they are.  Plus in addition also too, because the manager chooses which batter hits when, there is bias to all these statistics that is outside my control to account for.  The better results for left-handed batters against lefty pitchers than righties, in absolute terms, suggests Rocco is careful which bats to play in that matchup.

But mostly what I see is that they go to extremes, and reap little to no overall reward for their efforts.  The lefty bats don't clobber righties, and the righty bats don't crush lefties.  Why, again, are we even doing this?

I can't help having flashbacks to the old quote from the dugout: "I managed good, but they sure played bad."  (ChatGPT 3.5 attributes this to Casey Stengel; therefore I feel 99% confident that it must have been someone else.  Rocco Baldelli may become the source of the quote, going forward.)  But at some point, that guy who "managed good" needs to stop and ask if it's worth the trouble, and what better thing might be tried.

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ashbury

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2 hours ago, MMMordabito said:

You set your spreadsheets down.  I'll set mine down.  Then, let's take this outside.

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I dunno.  Pivot Tables at 20 paces sounds like a fair fight to me.

bean5302

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Baldelli's macro probably has 100 go-to statements in it, and one of them is pointing to the wrong label. Messes with his results, but the macro doesn't actually hit a run time error so it's assumed to be working.

Hosken Bombo Disco

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The two switch hitters on this team, Santana and Castro, are the two hitters who lead the team in plate appearances. 

In other words, they always have the platoon split advantage. 

They also both typically bat at the bottom of the order. (Castro gets moved up sometimes.) 

They are also both better as right handed batters versus lefties. 

Most bullpen pitchers are righties. 

I’m guessing the current Twins brain trust gets the Microsoft error thud sound effect quite frequently when writing out their lineups, but charges right through it 

 

Hosken Bombo Disco

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I recall a story shared somewhere on this website, when Jack Goin spoke of a time when he told Ron Gardenhire that Justin Morneau (a left handed hitter) should really be batting closer to the bottom of the order against left-handed pitchers, on account of Morneau’s poor platoon disadvantage. (Something like that.)

Gardy said back to him, something like: “I can’t move him down any lower than fifth, or I lose him as a three hitter too.” In other words, Gardy wanted to show confidence in Justin by leaving him at the top of the order even when the matchup was suboptimal.  

what a privilege to hear stories like that, by the way

It’s a people game and I suspect something like what Gardy was talking about would be good for someone like Larnach or Kirilloff right now—let them play full time and become every day contributors, even though the lefty-lefty matchups might be suboptimal. 

jjswol

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What the heck? I didn't anyone that anyone else besides me used the term "bippy". I am going to keep an eye on you Ashbury. Have a good day.

DEVA

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I think the Twins should do a covert platoon with Wallner and Larnach. They are basically the same player. Just allow them to share one uniform number. When one is going hot, they wear the jersey and play, when the other one is hot, they play.  They look alike, they swing alike - no one would ever notice.

bean5302

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4 hours ago, DEVA said:

I think the Twins should do a covert platoon with Wallner and Larnach. They are basically the same player. Just allow them to share one uniform number. When one is going hot, they wear the jersey and play, when the other one is hot, they play.  They look alike, they swing alike - no one would ever notice.

Not sure why you feel they're similar as they have almost nothing in common except they're both left handed, white and tall, LOL

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