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ERA's for RP are not the same as ERA's for SP. And with scoring as it is ERA's are twisted stats to start with. One could look at Belisle as being 43/47. That's actually not bad. But this doesn't make me a believer in MB as a closer, or even an 8th inning guy on a winning team. That's always the difference. A good end of the rotation guy will shut routinely shut down good lineups and bad. I don't think that's in MB profile anymore. He has had a nice streak, but will always be an accident waiting to happen. Belisle's burp last night aside, the bigger issue is the Twins offense is masking an awful pitching staff. That can't go on forever. Short starts, and over use of a mediocre pen will eventually bite you in the posterior. As one wise commentator noted, BP ERA's are SSS. Very true. But MLB seasons are not.
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I would. I know he isn't and likely won't be a hitter. But the non play, albeit a tough one, by Polanco tonight cost the Twins 4 runs. You have to hit a lot to make up 4 runs.
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I like the fact that Doug M. Seems to be a disciplinarian. And I do think you can pull that off if you are fair about it. He has been pretty successful and has a little fire inside. I agree with the poster that if he doesn't get the call, it's time to change orginisations. Mauer, good or bad, is hamstrung by Joe. But my bet is its some young unknown, and if it is, hopefully fluent in Spanish. It's where the game is at today.
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The nice thing about being buyers one week. And sellers the next week. And buyers the next week. And sellers the next week. Is that you will be right about half the time! . As for me, I see both sides of this issue, and I agree wholeheartedly.
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The Vargas Carousel Revolves Again
Platoon commented on Ted Schwerzler 's blog entry in Off The Baggy
Garver I can understand. But Park? Just because the precious administration sunk a boatload of money on yet another DH/1B type, doesn't mean that the current one needs to continue the folly. Even Vargas is four years younger and has an outside chance for improvement. Park on the other hand is a slow pitch softball player who will never adjust to MLB pitching. When he hits it, it goes a long way. The power is real. But he would need to improve his clairvoyancy quite a bit. Guess hitters who can't see the future don't end up well. -
Can The Twins Win With Dozier And Mauer?
Platoon replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I don't think the Twins tanked after the ASG. I think they simply found the level of their current talent was not competitive with real playoff level baseball. This is not a knock on Falvine. I think they realize it, and I think they intend to do something about it. It might be a very active winter. -
Can The Twins Win With Dozier And Mauer?
Platoon replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The stats above show exactly why Dozier would not work in the middle of the lineup. This year, for the third straight year he going on his annual statistical binge when it is least needed. Two years ago he flatlined during the heat of the 2nd WC hunt. Last year he awoke about the time the team was statistically eliminated. The fact that this was at the ASG break is irrelevant. And this year he has been pretty low key during his teams rise, albeit temporarily, to the top of the division. Needless to say upon the waving of that "white flag" he has again went on a meaningless tear. -
Falvine seems intent on developing a long term plan for a competitive orginisation. That does not happen overnight. This is somewhat reminiscent of Bud Grant taking over the Vikings. Not flashy and the pace was seemingly excruciating. But it also was enduring. Yielding to a desire to make a flashy short term signing would have led to buyers remorse by mid September. It will be an uphill slog to rebuild an orginisation with mediocrity as its core operating principle. They seem to be steadfastly headed on the correct direction.
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Reusse touched on a few points on why he, and Falvine, did not think the Twins were contending material even though they had remained in the WC hunt until July. To his I would add this. You're not a contender if you have no idea who is going to pitch every fifth day until you check Delta's flight schedule out of upstate New York! I found Thad Levines radio comment on the winning streaks of Cleveland and KC interesting and pragmatic. http://www.startribune.com/some-people-thought-twins-were-playoff-contenders-imagine-my-surprise/438577703/
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Anymore age discriminatory comments like this, and I quit listening to Whine Line and instead tune in Steve Cannon on 'CCO.
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NO! There has to be a point where the game remains a true game. And umpires are part of the game. They already have went too far with the instant replay. It's always been accepted that each umpire has his own zone. Some are low ball umpires some have a large outside corner, few have a large inside corner. If someone is calling the ball on the black consistently, being surprised by that third strike means you expected him to change it just for you. Players aren't perfect, managers aren't perfect, and umpires are not perfect. Years ago my son took a called third strike on a pitch that was on the low end of the strike zone. Or lower, to end the game. On the way home he was furious. I asked him if he was aware "Cookie" was a low ball ump? He said he certainly was aware, and that "Cookie" had always been not only a low ball ump, but a big call ump. So I said why are you mad? You knew that when you went up there. It's an adjustment to the game, same as playing two steps in when Buxton is up.
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Twins Trade Kintzler To Nationals
Platoon replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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I think they will move on from Molitor. And I think it's time. Hopefully Pohlad will give him one of those sought after advisory roles, and someone who is able to relate to a younger roster is put in place. And by relate, I don't mean soft and a pushover. This team needs some even handed discipline and a return to fundamentals. It also needs someone who does not appear to base every decision on trying to win a particular game vs trying to improve the team as the season progresses, and winning the season. His game management style has always seemed to lack any consideration that looked past the immediate situation.
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Twins Trade Kintzler To Nationals
Platoon replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The trade was made with what's happened in July in mind, not what might have happened last off season. Adding two mid level relievers would not have made this team a contender. The SP simply would not allow that. Throw in an offense that I still think has not matured, and lack of a lynchpin SS and you really aren't a contender. Relying on some other teams slow start to a season to chase a second WC slot is not the groundwork for a solid orginisation. We traded away two very mid level pitchers from a team that is not yet ready to play with the big boys. And since Kintlzler is a FA, we can resign him in the off season if we want to pony up the cash. -
A Change Coming In The Twins Dugout?
Platoon commented on Ted Schwerzler 's blog entry in Off The Baggy
At the risk of repeating myself, despite decades in the game Molitor seems to have no "feel" for either a game, or the part of the season the team is in. His decisions are jerky jerky, someone said panicky. I think he has managed with an eye on his job status, far more than on the teams development. A bad manager will drag a good team down far further than a good mangager will lift one up. Putting Buxton in the 3 hole to start the season should have alone been cause for immediate termination. -
I like this with a caveat. The "fair price" for BD is impacted by the fact that 2B of his ilk are currently a dime a dozen. If his value is impacted to other teams by that fact, we need to allow for that in our own trade evaluation. EE is a nice utility guy, his most value is in short spurts. I would keep him over Adrainza (sp) because he hits better, is a switch hitter, along with a decent glove. I do think Polanco will be just fine, but I don't think he is a staring SS. So regrettably if you keep BD, I would trade Polanco. It's not the way I would do it, but I would not keep Polanco to play SS.
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Sports is easier to watch if you concentrate more on appreciating effort than the simple metrics of W's and L's. With a few exceptions it's a well known fact that half of the teams playing in any one game lose. But all their fans had expected both of them to win. Once, when umping a Legion game a manager ran behind me on the way to coach third. He had been (unjustly I am sure) dissatisfied with a non balk call earlier. He said, "we're trying to win a game here". During the next inning change the other manager ran behind me and in a loud stage whisper said, "just so you know, we are too" . Needless to say, despite both their best efforts, one of them did not.
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An independent blogger used the word "panic" the other day for the way Molitor used his pen. In a manner I agree, but refer to it more as managing for his job. I agree, they need to clarify his position. I only hope Pohlad kicks him upstairs, I think he will do less damage there. While I sympathize with his having to deal with this pitching staff, I simply do not see a MLB manager when I watch him operate. While Pohlad tried to do well for his friend, he did a disservice to the team leaving a lame duck in place during an important developmental phase.
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This is maybe a simplistic version of whether to buy or sell. But, the Twins should no more make their decision on buy/sell on the Oakland series, than on the Dodger series. They should make it on what they need to do to be (truly) competitive. Whether they sweep the A's or get swept their strengths and deficiencies remain in place. They have 3 shortstops, one can't field at a high level, one can't hit, and one can't currently do either. They have a ground ball closer who is starting to be abused. They have no bench bat. They have some excellent young positional talent. They have an expendable second baseman, DH (RG) and the aforementioned closer. None of this changes this weekend. Beating Oakland is the same as losing to the Dodgers. You still retain middle of the pack mediocrity. Let's use Dozier or Santana as an example. Those who say that both will help the Twins next year are to an extent correct. But unless you use them, or some other players who would also fall in that category as trade chips, it's a moot point. You cannot win with this roster, and whether it's Santana or Dozier or ???, that is the problem. And it does not change no matter the outcome in Oakland.
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I understand your point, to a point. That said, I can't see either Santana or Doziers trade value increasing. But it could easily decrease. I should have added Robbie Grossman to the list. Some have considered Rosario. I at this time would not. Granted he does not play baseball like a rocket scientist, but he has talent. I remember when KC had all that youth. I also remember it seemed to take much longer for it to come to fruition than the good folks in MO thought acceptable.
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I wrote a shorter version of this the other day. There is no worse place to be than treading water. . I had made the observation that the Indians were not being curteous enough to run away from the division, and that was unfortunate. It would be nice to believe this team is "there", but it isn't. So far Falvine has resisted the temptation to trade off the future for a faux run at the second WC, and their stated intent is to keep that philosophy. I also hope they add this thought to their operating modus. Trade Kintzler, Dozier, and Santana for the best talent you can get. None of them will be an asset when and if this team is relevant. I waffled on Santana as he is a pitcher, but he has reverted to what he always was. Jekyl and Hyde Santana. And focus on pitching, pitching, and more pitching. I still think the offense will mature. I know the opinion stated is not popular after the last 6-7 years, but if we don't want another lost decade, we need to improve the roster for the next 5 years, not the next 5 weeks.
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This almost has to be about roster flexibility. I am not a Gibson fan. He has "stuff", he just gets nothing out of it. But as noted above, he finally pitches a really nice game, and POOF, he ends up in NY, and I don't mean with the Yankees. Really weird. But I guess it's understandable. Colon has been outstanding, getting us unscathed through the first four innings. You on the other hand, Gibson is normally only good for about four innings before he falls apart. Easy decision!
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My question on today's BP management was mostly about Kintzler to hold an already one run deficit. He got 4 outs yesterday, and throwing again today does one of two things. Precludes him from throwing tomorrow night, or risks him being rode hard by a manager who is known for that practice? The only reason I could imagine bringing in Kintlzer down one, was that they consider the Colon game tomorrow night a throw away. Plus, is it just my imagination, or do closers seem to perform poorly in these hold em close assignments. I seem to remember Perkins get hammered in those types of situations.
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No denying that. 2015 was fun. And 2016 was great for those of us who enjoy the dark side of humor. But in a manner you clarify my premise. I hope Falvine does not make decisions on whether we will enjoy August and September, or whether they can sell another 100,000 tickets. I hope decisions are based on long term sustainability.
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It's been nagging me for a few weeks. The thought that this is sort of like 2015 all over. That the Twins will be stuck in a neutral universe. Too good to sell, and to bad to buy. I know that there are lots of teams that are on the periphery, just within playoff contention. But there are differences in these teams. Some have the talent to be there, but have not played well, and some don't have the talent, but have played over their head. I find the Twins in the latter group. There should be no conceivable way they are contending with this pitching staff. Credit must be given to Cleveland for their absolute refusal to run away from a weak division. But that curtesy does not change the fact that the Twins are still deeply flawed. Their many attributes are cancelled out by their many deficiencies. Leaving them what they are. A .500 team at best. As discussions here have shown, being a buyer or a seller is largely a matter of personal preference by fans. But I hope when Falvine makes their upcoming decisions they put more weight into what is best for the long term sustainable success of the franchise, than the short term feel good of yet another faux #2 WC chase.

