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  1. If my wife was a baseball fan she would say "FINE"!
  2. I think unless Nolasco is a complete washout in ST, he will get far more innings than we expect. The Twins, and likely other teams, use the cost of the player in allocating playing time. And he cost plenty. I would also believe the FO would like to salvage just a little of the pride lost in this contract. As an aside, I still have a problem with the use of the term "depth" in referring to the pitching situation in MN. While I understand that depth can be synonymous with quantity, in this case I hope it's not being used to infer quality.
  3. Quite possibly the most sensible, simplest, and clearest analysis of the entire Sano, Plouffe issue.
  4. I like Sano, and I think Arcia needs a chance to recover. I also am ok with an offensive OF, but even for me, these two in the OF together is hard to envision. And impossible without Buxton between them. The only problem with the Twins signing a veteran 4th OF is they will play him in front of the youth. When you look at this roster, it's obvious what keeping Plouffe does. If Arcia had more trade value, even that would help, but he doesn't. And I still think that would end up as an Ortiz2. Sooner or later they have to do something. Following the usual plan of waiting for someone to get hurt, so you can send him to rehab, is not a plan!
  5. I can more or less agree with this, with these two exceptions. Ryan seems very slow to adjust to change, and there are non financial moves he makes and doesn't make that are consistent and puzzling. Mainly his distrust of younger players, and his over blown affection for safe middling vets.
  6. When we got married, we decided I would make all big decisions, and she would make all the little ones! It's been quite a few years, and it's hard to believe, but there still has not been a big decision to make! Speaking of little decisions, I just don't like the Sano to RF one. You can be that big, and have quick hands and quick feet, and get by at third. But to make athletic moves chasing sinking fly balls, and heaven forbid bouncing into an OF wall. At that size? I just am not sure that's gonna end well? What if he runs into the RF wall, and that idiotic flower pot overhead comes down?
  7. I am not as concerned with what we didn't do, as with what we might. I would have rather seen cash spent, for a shut down RP, adding instead of subtracting, than trade a good prospect. If I wake up and find a Rosario, Polanco, Kepler, or a high velocity reliever gone for two years of another control type RP I will flip. But I don't think we should be surprised. Keeping Fien sort of set the bar. And letting Jones go was more evidence that they talk velocity, but have yet to actually practice it. With strike outs come walks. That doesn't go over well in Twins Territory!
  8. I don't have a problem with them spending money, on a good FA, they have plenty. But I want them to take into consideration the long term effects it has on the roster. Does it block a good internal candidate? Is it just a move that is "safer" vs potential upside. As to your point on Ryan's hand being forced, I would be curious to know the percentage of roster moves mad in season that are injury related, vs talent related. My bet is its higher than one would imagine.
  9. You quote includes three points. And all are true, and have been for quite a few years, despite the roster position in question. While the current problem appears to lie in the construction of an efficient BP, your post touches on the real problem.
  10. Good piece. You put my thoughts into a more coherent post than I can. I think the big difference between now and in 2010 is that the Twins have too many corner IF-DH guys. In the Nishy situation they had one too many middle IF, and that was Hardy, and they dumped him. Leaving them with no options when Nishy was injured. In a way OTC was correct, it's Hot Stove time, and it's fun. But for this to turn out in a manner that makes sense to any semi knowledgeable observer, TR has going to have to makes some moves he isn't known for, such as eating contracts, trading a stable veteran, and possibly more youth in the BP. One thing is for sure though! No matter what happens, everyone here on TD will be very supportive!
  11. Sano can run for a big guy, very well. And he can throw. It just seems a really odd idea, to take a guy and try and teach him to play OF in the majors. Especially since they have options. They have tried it with Santana and Escobar, far more athletic players, with not too much success. I do know one thing, if they put him out there, he's going to have to stay there. Trading Plouffe, or a Park blowup will be the only thing that moves him.
  12. I appreciate the fact that there are only so many ways to say something! But in the May paragraph you used the word "depth" to describe the excess amount of 3,4, and 5 level pitchers on the roster. To me that is not depth, it's just too many long term, expensive to resolve contracts given to suspect veteran pitchers! . Now I agree depth is less wordy, but it extends the connotation of quality! In reality, continually adding these types of pitchers, is akin to attempting to dig yourself out of a hole with a shovel.
  13. I looked in the Webster, and found "He's better than Stauffer" in the section entitled Backhanded Insults!
  14. Very well put! We cannot put mediocre players on the field, and expect a contending result!
  15. There was no market. Once the Twins won the bid,it's a take it or leave it. He had to take it. He is almost 30, and he gets a shot at MLB. I would have done the same thing in a heartbeat. Parks decision was correct, based on the options he had.
  16. I don't always agree with"The Baggy", but on the issue of players like Fien I do. And while he might have used the term "cheaper" in his original missive, the tenor of the piece was that it is time for the Twins to remove some of the middling names on the end of the roster, and try to get better, Fien, and likely Nunez are not going to get better, Fien is probably going to get worse. This is a team with options, it's not berift of young talent.
  17. It's been my long time complaint, the safe, known mediocre is the better than the high upside, youthful unknown. Maybe it's just me, but if I know the player in question is not going to help take me to the next level, then I look at someone who could. Will he? I don't know! But I do know the other one won't! That's how you get better. Yes it's possible to get worse, but that's part of being in charge. Almost anyone can be average!
  18. That's what's odd here. If they don't trade Plouffe now, there doesn't seem to be a time when they will. That leaves one of those three on the bench, traded, or in Rochester. And means Arcia and likely Vargas is gone. It also means our biggest trade chip for pitching is off the table.
  19. The more I see, the more I read, the more I have come to the conclusion that the Twins are an insular, inbred orginisation with the same management, now going into its 21st year. Twenty years of mediocrity, hope, frustration and disappointment! UGH
  20. I think the definitive pronunciation will be provided by Bert!
  21. I talked to a friend of mine today, former college BB player, longtime amateur baseball pitcher and superb hitter, goes to Twins Fantasy Camps, etc! I asked him how many HR's for Park? His completely nonsensical answer! "I will be happy if he doesn't spend most of the year in AAA, he comes from an 88 mph league, to a mid 90's league, with cutters" My expectations are closer to that view, than 30 HR's this year.
  22. Nothing gets resolved until Plouffe does! If Plouffe stays, Kepler might as well sign a long term lease in Rochester. If they trade Plouffe for a CF place holder, then he can have Buxton co-sign it. It would be far more likely that TR would go to Great Clips, than Kepler be a fourth OF. Nacht! I fear that April and May will be extended spring training. Whether it be Sano at 3B or RF, Buxton or a fill in CF, and Park learning the intricacies of a 96 mph FB. Fortunately those games do not count in the final standings, as we have so often saw. That and several of our young BP arms staying in MiLB will be the price we pay for our ersatz run at that ever elusive WC spot?
  23. The money was reasonable, besides its Carl's money, he had plenty. Mr Park will never have to work after BB if he doesn't want to. But when one side faces a take it or leave it, and the other side is only out a few bucks in lawyer and accounting fees, that's not a negotiation. As to Parks talent, I don't know. The numbers are great, but so is the history that the Twins never ever outbid, or out pay everyone else in baseball for a player. Their normally not even on the legitimate fringes. Even with Sano, there were age verification factors that drove other teams away, kudos to Bill Smith for sticking with it, but it wasn't a pure matter of outbidding the rest of MLB. As to Plouffe, if they don't trade him, Sano has to play RF. UGH!
  24. It took 4 FOUR YEARS of losing 90 games to bring in a fresh face! FOUR YEARS! Two years to straighten out CF. One year with a SS out there, and the rest of the time a series of 4th OF. And if I remember right, it was an injury that forced him to retrieve Hicks from Rochester the last time. Jepsen himself was an upgrade, but that BP is a long way from being a plus part of the team. We had two Hughes pitching for us, one in '14 and one in '15, which seems to be standard for the "Hughes Boys". As for E. Santana, one could almost say he had the same effect on the Twins in the first half of the year, as the last. Finally Hunter. while there may be some validity to the pros of his clubhouse presence, I think they should be balanced against the lost playing time that other younger outfielders got. I am waiting for the first time someone mentions "it's going to take Billy Bob awhile to get acclimated to ML pitching!
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