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The answer for Mike Parker is: none of the above. The answer for Mike Parker is to rip open that plastic wrapped, powder-blue promotional jersey he picked up at a Twins event 14 years ago, and has been sitting on his closet shelf since then. He almost opened it and wore it to Gluek’s for the 2017 Wild Card game, but for some reason he held back. He’s been holding back for a reason, but he didn’t know what. And now, with the Donaldson signing and a World Series in his sights, there will never be a better time. This is Mike Parker’s moment. But does the powder blue plastic-wrapped jersey have a name and number on the back of it? That would be embarrassing if not. Parker, on many occasions, has his dug fingers carefully into the plastic without opening the wrapping in an attempt to separate the folds of the jersey and see just enough if there’s a name and number lettered across the back. Lettering or no, I nevertheless think it’s a chance Parker has to take, and now is the time. Open the plastic, put on the jersey, and go. Also, I am Mike Parker. -
Also, some would say Garver was thrust into full time duty in 2018 before he was ready, after Castro stopped playing on his injured knee.
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Couple of highlights from a KFAN interview with Tim Tschida this afternoon: 1) Sign stealing—beyond just the runner on second base watching for the catcher to put down ones or twos—goes back a long time; 2) Teams policed this themselves without outside help, and sign stealing was the cause of lots of the beanballs, brushback pitches, and onfield brawls that occurred when it wasn’t otherwise apparent what was going on; 3) Tschida thinks MLB should indeed take back those Astros World Series rings. Another poster somewhere alluded to those rings as being the most important possession those players have, and Tschida kind of confirmed that. Even removing the Astros as 2017 champions should be up for discussion. 4) the technology is so good and so pervasive that a sign steal scandal like this is bound to happen again.
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Yep, I will now expect that if the Twins fall out of contention in any given year (or mistakenly think they are out of contention like in 2017 or 2018), there will be a sell-off of major league players.
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or... Jim Pohlad went to the new Star Wars movie tonight, and doesn’t know about this yet...
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I went back and looked at the thread Vanimal linked to in November when this came out. http://twinsdaily.com/topic/35518-astros-being-investigated-for-using-tech-to-steal-pitching-signs/?p=935074 I will backtrack my earlier statements. The banging was almost instantaneous after the catcher put the sign down. I would still like to know how common this was, and what signals they used in what games. Anyway here was that tweet (warning: language) https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1194348775965437952?s=19
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I know there are one or two video clips floating around of banging on trash can lids. I’ve got to think there was more to it than that, or we would have dozens of clips. That particular sound would be pretty obvious and I think people would catch on pretty quickly. But you are right, it could still be an audio signal that hasn’t been revealed yet.
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While agreeing with all of the above, I also can’t help thinking that if pitchers weren’t taking so much time to deliver the pitch, this type of cheating would be minimal. I don’t know, let’s see what turns up. Knowing what pitch is coming is huge, but I doubt batters would have much time to look away from the pitcher, decode the signal, and then bring their eyes back to the pitcher’s delivery slot before the pitch comes. And that’s the last step in the process. Illegal sign stealing like this... I think it would work only under the right conditions.
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Personally, I’ve always hated that sort of penalty. That’s really a dig at the fans, in my opinion, who don’t deserve it.
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I have no idea how the Twins evaluated Ryu or the other 2-3 decent guys they had a realistic shot at. But factoring in everything else, I think the Twins needed pitching worse than any other team, and therefore should have been willing to pay more for it.
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Wheeler could have been recruited here. He was not predestined for Philly in any way, shape or form. Offer him 10% more than the highest offer and an ironclad promise that Twins fans won’t throw glass beer bottles at your fiancée if you don’t make it through five innings. Bumgarner got 5/80. Offer him 4/80, maybe even slightly front loaded, plus a player opt out after two years so he can bargain with Arizona. Ryu, dunno. Same offer, earlier in the free agency period, maybe that gets it done if you buy the thought that his price was driven up from being the last best remaining free agent pitcher. Thoughts?
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To be honest, I don’t think we’ll see another Mauer type contract (8/184), and I’m okay with that. The trend for the Twins is for fewer years and I’m okay with that. Fewer years but a 23/year value shouldn’t be unacceptable, however.
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That’s fine, but you seem to spend a lot of effort arguing against those people who do want to see a deep playoff run. (I will resist saying “World Series Champion or bust” because I think most people will be able to agree that a season like the 2014 Royals or 2017 Brewers would be a success, even if ending in disappointment.) One thing I don’t understand is why you feel it would be going “all in” if the Twins traded away one or two of our Top 6 or 8 prospects? Do you not have confidence in the front office in replenishing the system? Another thing I don’t understand is why you think signing a contract like Wheeler’s or Ryu would be considered breaking the bank? Do you not see the organization as being in good financial health? Edit: not picking on you, just airing the questions (again) to anyone in general
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Front Page: Twins and 2020 Arbitration
Hosken Bombo Disco replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
So, a pitcher showing his age, and a pile of cash?- 80 replies
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Front Page: Twins and 2020 Arbitration
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Just ask Ted Williams, someone is more likely to buy out death than buy out taxes or the Pohlads.
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When Polanco was extended (for peanuts, in my opinion), others then pointed out that it would make Polanco easier to trade. So, maybe, maybe not.
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Like you, I would say Eddie would be little affected by a switch back to a standard baseball in a hypothetical 2020 season. Sano hits the ball a mile, Kepler has a great level swing that produces great backspin, and Cruz is just a professional hitter plain and simple, so hopefully not those guys either. Garver has a great eye for the strike zone but I’d be most concerned with Garver’s production dropping off next year, dejuiced ball or not.
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Not to jump on Doogie or anyone else, but if I recall, Phil Miller wrote than the Twins’ offer to Donaldson was “more than 20 million in annual value” or words to that effect. And that they haven’t really raised their original offer. So, guess the Twins offer to be something like 4/84 or so, and not 4/105-110.
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Much of this can be easily refuted, but instead, I will turn the question around. Why did Homer Bailey, Michael Pineda, Nelson Cruz, Ervin Santana, Rich Hill, and Rickey Nolasco want to come here?
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Too steep for me — but I get where you are coming from.
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The Dodgers also gave Kershaw a generous lifetime contract before he hit free agency, complete with an opt-out invitation to renegotiate down the line. You really think this front office is going to do that with their young stars? Not a rhetorical question any more. My answer is I highly, highly doubt it.
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The Mets won’t trade Syndergaard this offseason—I’d be stunned if they did. The other offers you mention Nash are intriguing but I have a hard time evaluating these particular ones. I wonder if Pittsburgh feels burned having traded Cole, or Detroit trading Verlander now two years later. The Twins apparently made no gestures for either of those pitchers, nor James Paxton last offseason. But I will call back to what jorgenswest said in Nick Nelson’s thread about David Price. I think if the Twins offered a decent prospect (but not top five) and then took roughly half of Price’s salary, that might be a fair deal for both sides. At that cost, maybe Price would compare well with the Keuchel, Bumgarner, or Ryu group. Not to mention, Price’s injury history would seem to be of little concern to this front office. Long way of saying... none of the proposals above look as attractive or doable to me as David Price. However I do like Chris Archer and I know that guy can pitch. I just wouldn’t offer both Rooker and Gordon. I will have to think about it.
