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  1. Strasburg is 30. Odorizzi is 30. Wheeler is 30. And so on. With all due respect, this age argument is unpersuasive, at best.
  2. ”they surely aren’t unprepared”... not sure what that’s referring to. My overall impression is actually that Wheeler went into free agency pretty open-minded, but was recruited and made an offer by the team that wanted him most. Would you agree?
  3. Bummer. I was hoping someone else would sit through the whole thing like I did. It was the question posed to Girardi at about the 18:40 mark.
  4. I don’t disagree with any of this, and I do think there will be a minor signing and minor trade made before the season starts. But the really impactful guys are taken, at this point.
  5. I was with you up to the last sentences. I don’t think the typical fan posting here has the time or interest in producing the type of numbers you are looking for. On some basic level, I think the front office needed to step back and just say to themselves “is Wheeler/Bumgarner good for this rotation?”... and the answer is Yes, and I think fans get this. You and the front office take the other view of looking at it purely analytically. The rotation is in shambles. I don’t think this is going to end well, but we’ll see.
  6. Jury is still out on whether Odorizzi is a #2 pitcher, though he did pitch like one last season. That trade was in February. Gerrit Cole was a January trade if I recall, a trade I really wanted the Twins to make. But I really don’t see any Gerrit Coles out there this year. Edit: Vanimal and Seth also began discussion threads in favor of trading for Gerrit Cole two years ago. Maybe they have some ideas for who to trade for this offseason.
  7. As far as I can find, the so-called “national reporting” that Wheeler did not want to come to Minnesota traces back to a single sentence in an Athletic article. A single sentence that got amplified by people like Darren Wolfson and then repeated over and over on these discussion boards, until those who wanted to believe it finally believed it. Meanwhile, Bumgarner’s entire press conference was devoted to his love for Arizona, the beautiful sunsets and his desire to play there. So, compare the two, and you tell me. Now, although Wheeler does not mention anything about family in his Philly press conference (linked below), there was a cryptic remark by another person at the table that might be worthy of some discussion here, if anyone wants to take me up on it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KWfR8aGTwgE
  8. This article seems rushed. I have a lot of problems with this analogy of Christian Ponder! Seriously though.. the suggestion that it’s easier to acquire a very good starting pitcher at the trade deadline also seems dubious to me— shouldn’t they have done that last July?
  9. Thanks for writing this. If not now, when? The Twins are still anywhere from $25-40 million under the 50 percent of salary benchmark, but someone can correct me. And now there’s little left to spend it on. Very disappointed. Correction: revenue
  10. Yes, that is what I am saying. Offer him something he can’t refuse, like the Yankees did with Cole. Yes? I’m addition, I think the “health concern” is a crutch. It’s like a sports version of the fortune cookie joke: you can add the words “if he’s healthy” to just about every statement made about any player’s performance. In fact Pineda comes to mind as much as anyone as someone who needs to stay healthy.
  11. Then he chooses Minnesota’s higher offer and makes his “pile of money” in Minnesota, correct?
  12. Then after two years, Bumgarner gauges the market and decides whether he should opt out, or not. Either way, after the Twins contract, Bumgarner finally takes his team-friendly deal in Arizona, because money is not Bumgarner’s primary motivation, remember? I mean, we just saw this with Gerrit Cole a week ago, no? Cole was dead set on signing with a California team, telling his teammates as much, until New York showed enough interest in Cole that he was forced to listen. And Cole’s family is from Southern California to boot. “What if Arizona isn’t in position to sign Bumgarner in two years?” Then he takes the below market contract at that time instead. That’s what.
  13. On second thought, I still like the idea of offering him big up-front money, and/or an opt-out after two years, at which time he could go do his Arizona thing after that. The Twins really, really need starting pitching and I really wish they would have been more a part of this Bumgarner negotiation. I mean, Arizona floated a $70 million contract idea to him, and he turned it down earlier in free agency. Sure he wanted to go to Arizona but that does not mean there wasn’t a window or a way to entice him.
  14. Well, he says he had at least two 5/100+ offers, and get this, his 2020 salary will be... $6 million. (So much for my prediction of front loading to woo him here ) Here is one of the money quotes: “He always loved spending spring training here, to the point that he and his wife occasionally brought out their horses from North Carolina for the two-month stay. He likes Arizona so much that he told his agent, Ed Cerulo of VC Sports, that the Diamondbacks were “the number-one place for me.” He got what he wanted. “It just feels like where I’m supposed to be,” Bumgarner said.
  15. More like... NOT on first
  16. you forgot: Big Sexy = Too sexy
  17. Here is s challenge to you: Follow the hyperlinks. Where do they lead? What are the original sources for the claim that Lewis won’t play short?
  18. I’m just saying that you are presenting data in a way that makes it look like spending money isn’t effective. I’m also confused, because by your own estimates in other threads, a five-year Wheeler or Bumgarner contract would have been affordable with money left over. I don’t understand why you seem to be running from that. Maybe individually, a Dobnak or Smeltzer provides more value dollar for dollar in 2020 than Bumgarner or Wheeler, but would you agree the calculus breaks down at some point, that a staff full of Dobnaks and Smeltzers isn’t as good as a staff with Dobnak, Smeltzer, and a Bumgarner or Wheeler in it?
  19. The problem I see with your list is that it looks like you are hiding the high-dollar contract extension agreements these teams are making with their current players. Someone looking at your list of St. Louis Cardinals won’t see last year’s Goldschmidt extension, or the $97 million Wainwright extension, or the $130 million dollars Yadier Molina has earned. Not to mention the big Matt Holliday contract which falls just outside the date range. Someone looking at your list of Houston Astros won’t know that Verlander and Springer signed huge extensions too.
  20. Once when I was visiting a town in Texas, south of Dallas, someone heard my accent and asked me where I was from. “Minnesota,” I said. “That near Dallas?” they said.
  21. Did you ever respond to the St. Louis Cardinals list of spending?
  22. Okay, well that wasn’t me in the subset of posters you are thinking of. What I remember when he was hired was some pretty good feeling about the future. There was even an account opened with the user name Fire Falvey that we had some fun with. I think in general there is still optimism, but for some, the shine has worn off. As for my “Falvey fans” comment, I am not going to define or defend that, as it was a poor choice of words. Your offer of a donation to charity is appreciated. I would recommend a dog rescue organization.
  23. I am the poster you are referring to, and you are wrong. I am skeptical of the front office, yes, very much so. I don’t have it out for them personally. That is quite different. I didn’t have it out for them from “the moment they were hired”. No one did. Literally, no one. I liked their early moves. I was disappointed they did not show interest in trading for Gerrit Cole. And they can win me over—easily—by signing Bumgarner. As for cost-benefit, quantitative impact of a top starter, and that other stuff you threw in there... no one really has any data about that that they can be confident in.
  24. This whole website is full of specific, actionable trade and free agent ideas that the front office should consider, from writers and posters alike. Frankly, in my opinion, I personally think it’s dishonest for certain posters or media members to keep asking questions like this. Not singling anyone out here. “Go out and sign Wheeler at whatever price” is a valid suggestion for improving the team, like it or not. It implies not that the Twins should have offered him Gerrit Cole money, but only that they outbid other teams by enough to persuade him to keep the negotiation open until he signs. And to bring you back into this, MLR.. by your own payroll estimate in another thread, the Twins could have won Wheeler with such an offer and still be comfortably under the payroll ceiling you predicted. So there’s a specific free agency idea. As for trade ideas, I see them on this site every day. You don’t have to like them, but they are there.
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