The Dickey example is legit - a knuckleballer who the Twins used as a situational reliever. On top of that, Gardenhire started out by telling him not to throw his knuckleball in critical situations so that Joe wouldnt have to chase any passed balls. The Mets needed innings (like the Twins did) they signed a rubber arm like Dickey, let him start, and got several good years from him. Another example, one you will never see anywhere, is Phil Humber. In 2008-2009 Patrick Reusse called him the very worst pitcher on a major league roster. But in 2011 Don Cooper somehow got almost an entire good season out of him, 9-9, 3.75 ERA. Yeah Humber regressed, but so does every pitcher on the Twins roster if they hang around long enough -- the "blame the players" philosophy that the Twins more and more resort to is unfortunate I think we can all agree.