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  1. Looked up the box score. Might still be Pepcid for everyone when Liriano pitches. Saw the Hawkins pitched for the Mets. Another pitcher of great potential never met. 16 years and 42 million later shows you do not need to meet your potential to be a success.
  2. The Twins did more than nothing. Get it through your own head that not everything you do works. I said in the past that the Twins badly guessed on what the free agent market for pitchers would be. When you look at the posting by the people on this board on what they thought players should cost most were way off. I am not going to waste more time going through the archives to find it but 2 mil for Baker, 3/42 for Jackson were numbers that were reasonable to most people. It was Shane Wahl's thread. The second tier pitchers were thought to be going around 5-6 million. There are people on this board that post reasonable articles frequently that came up with these numbers, not just some old hack nurse. My opinion on getting free agents to a losing team is known. I posted they should have took Haren from the Angels for the can of tuna that it would have cost. I posted they should have renewed Baker because that was the only way they were going to keep him knowing that it would have been a waste this year but helpful down the road. Don't forget the nothing that the Twins did was also get two great pitching prospects. Might not do anything this year but next year make TR look very good. Trading for prospects s is far different than trading for established players. There should be a better return on established players. I do not base any opinion on 10-15% of a season. Jackson will perform better, historically he has. Feldman and Villaneuva will do worse, as they historically have.
  3. See last point about needing to make everything crystal clear for some people. Cubs. Big ticket item sucking. Feldman was a one year fill in. See the contract. Yes they would be happy with Feldman. But what they have paid the most money for is not doing well (Jackson). They sign Navaro, plays like Butera, Fujikawa and Camp were signed to be the bullpen and they are getting torched. Hairston has a 2 year deal and has a batting average worse than Hicks. Oh yeah, Chicago for their 77 million added just a ton of valuable assets. Historically Soriano has been a huge albatross ever since they got him. Last year's free agent signings got them Maholm (traded), Dejusus (average to less than average and Wood (ret). Back to your point. 2 sighing out of 8 players they signed from other clubs, 1/3 of the roster added from elsewhere. 25% is not great signing for talent you evaluated at the major league level.
  4. I guess I needed to make my point clearer as I got a smart answer. There are several avenues to get better. The free agency way doesn't always work (Cubs, Dodgers), trading for established players doesn't always work, (Jays, Dodgers). You can have examples where these approaches have worked (historically the Yankees, Boston for FA, KC for trades. Trading for talent has it's ups and downs (see Oakland)
  5. How do the Cubs feel about all of their FA pitchers right now?
  6. I would read your comment as strongly saying the Twins should have signed a shortstop. As there were more holes this winter that needed to be filled than 2 starting pitchers and a SS I would have thought you thought the shortstop position should have been filled. Your list of ERA+ leaders would have included Oswalt who is semi retired, Liriano,. Using three year data overlooks the downward trend of players.
  7. From the article Of the 17 most expensive free agents from the previous three seasons, only five of them led their team into the playoffs in their first year. This year's group is just approaching the first quarter of their first season, so the grades are far from complete. But slow starts -- or worse -- for big free agents who change teams have been common in recent years.Remember, too, the industry trends that have made free agency more inefficient. Teams prefer to lock up their best young players to extensions that buy out multiple free agent years. That leaves the free agent market with fewer choices -- choices that generally are older and/or less talented. Players such as Pujols, Hamilton, Dunn and Werth began their new contracts at 31 or older. In today's testing era, the older player is less valuable and more suspect to decline. And with restrictions on draft and international spending, owners are funneling those available dollars into free agency despite the few good choices there. Read More: Once again, expensive free agents are failing to meet expectations - MLB - Tom Verducci - SI.com
  8. Since you would have to outbid Detroit the question should be do you sign Sanchez at 5 and 90.
  9. It would be interesting to get the scouting reports on the 7 players taken after the second round to get an idea on why teams missed on them
  10. There are those on this board who will not give it up. Learn to ignore bait.
  11. It is an article written for a numbers crunching group. Of course it is going to be a vanilla article. Imitation vanilla not from a bean. Diamond has a clue what he needs to do to be successful
  12. There is nothing wrong with the signing of a good free agent. There is nothing really wrong with signing a free agent to a one year contract. There is nothing wrong with trying to fill a need or two through free agency. You are not going to build a team through free agency unless you have an unlimited budget. Get over the fact that players can choose where they want to play and thinking that money is the only issue.
  13. It would not be 60 million it would be closer to 70. The problem comes in that there are very few free agents that on the back end of the contract that are worth the money. Adding 4-5 contracts like that does hamstring. Should the Twins add an Sanchez type pitcher? Of course. Can you add 4-5 of them. There isn't even hardly one of them per year to add. For every Sanchez there would be a Zito and Vernon Wells. That is the part that ruins.
  14. 4-5 Sanchez type contacts would be adding 4-5 contracts that average 15 million a year. 4 Sanchez type contracts would be committing over 350 million dollars. You say it would have little impact long term? And you hoped what I pointed out was facetious?
  15. Yes you will have a higher likelihood of winning. At what point of spending? Money on very good players should see a return. To turn the 2011-2012 Twins into winners that would be winning 16 more games. To add 10 WAR and hope for 6 of improvement within would be a 50 million payroll increase. If it were the 7-10 million per WAR to add talent that was mentioned here, that would bring the payroll to over 150 million for an at best mediocre team.
  16. http://www.hardballtimes.com/images/uploads/Payroll_Annual_Correlation.gif I don't see something that looks like it has a high correlation here. It is the graph from your article. I recall that 1 was a perfect fit. While there is a positive trend it also would mean that there are plenty of cases where money does not equal wins. See Angels and Phillies last year. Winning records, lots of money spent, nowhere near the playoffs.
  17. Newsflash, Mauer did win the lottery in March 2010
  18. BABIP measures something. What use it is in terms of defining talent of a pitcher is not known to me. Through a season with more or less the same team behind them Santana and Weaver had the same BIAP. Also they had the same k/9 rate. A yardstick to measure the talent is ERA, as they played roughly the same amount of games in each park. They had very different ERA. 2.81 versus 5.16 The end product of their pitching was very different. A HR/9 difference of .95 versus 1.95 might be the answer to the different outcomes but not entirely For a hitter all that BABIP measures is what happens when you do not strike out or hit a home run. I do not know the usefulness of that. It is not a measure of randomness because over time hitters would have the same BABIP. If it were luck then Mauer has no skill with the bat and should be buying lottery tickets as a proven lucky player
  19. Ervin Santana and Weaver had the same BABIP while pitching for the Angels last year. Their ERA were over 2 runs apart. I don't think BAIP would be a sole measure to use to define anything for pitchers.
  20. The potential to go on a few game run of brilliance by a pitcher goes a long ways with a lot of fans. Phrases of "If only ....." come out about about the pitcher. That was Liriano in 2011 and 2012. The next pitcher for that role with the Twins is Deduno.
  21. Out of the shambles of the 2009 staff came a rotation that was top 5 in ERA. The core was assembled through the previous year. For 2012 do you expect the same staff to go downhill or return to the performance level they showed in 2010? Hindsight gives you the answer.
  22. Being serious, it would be nice to see what pitchers are getting the calls so you could see if it was a patteren. Are Davis and Shields getting less calls in KC comes to mind as pitchers who should have a change in called strike rates if pitch framing is the sole determinant of if a ball is called a strike.
  23. When I was on my way to work I heard that the first pitch was a ball on the outside. I thought "Doumit didn't frame that one very well".
  24. When someone here actually has a clue as to why the medical staff would have a hard time thinking a bone density issue then they can criticize the medical staff on this case. Blast away on how they handled the roster when a player can't play.
  25. It is one thing to second guess a game you watch. You have gained knowledge by reading, watching, or participating. It is quite another to second guess what you have no to very little experience participating in, watching or doing. There is a bit of a difference between medical and sports.
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