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    The Outlook In The Outfield


    Nick Nelson

    Standing out among the defining characteristics of the Twins teams that rose to prominence back in the early 2000s were the reliable and steadily productive outfields. It all began with The Soul Patrol – Torii Hunter, Jacque Jones and Matt Lawton – and while the names changed, there was always a sense of stability from year to year.

    Recently, that has gone amiss. Over the last few seasons, the Twins have handed numerous starts at all three spots to journeyman minor leaguers, cast-offs from other organizations, and ill-suited infielders. Last year, 10 different players started in left field for Minnesota; same thing in right. No one played more 97 games at any outfield position.

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    Up until now, this year has been much of the same. Already we've seen nine different players draw starts in the outfield (for comparison, the season total in 2010 was six) and the results have been ugly. Here's the total production the Twins have gotten from all three positions, compared to the league averages:

    Position | Twins OPS | AL OPS

    LF | .628 | .700

    CF | .596 | .721

    RF | .726 | .755

    Right field has been the only position with any kind of stability, and its occupant is likely to be gone after this season.

    But the arrival of Byron Buxton over the weekend signaled a hopeful shift away from the revolving door routine in Minnesota's outfield. Barring unforeseen circumstances or injury, Buxton will hold down center field regularly for the rest of this season and beyond. And when it comes to addressing the corner spots on either side, the Twins are in the enviable position of sorting through numerous talented young candidates in their search for a solidified unit.

    Let's run through some of the players who will be in the mix, with a few perhaps surprising names rounding out the list. (This is more of a short-term view, so I won't dig into any of the prospects that are still multiple years away.)

    Oswaldo Arcia

    This has been such a tough year for Arcia that it's easy to forget what a tremendous offensive player he has been for his age level. A recent post by Matthew Pouliout on the HardballTalk blog pointed out that Arcia is one of only seven players under the age of 24 with 500-plus MLB at-bats and a career OPS+ above 100.

    Defense is clearly Arcia's downfall; he profiles better as a DH and that might be where he ends up. But he could be hidden to some extent in right field, especially with strong defenders in center and left. In spite of his difficulties this month, I remain confident Arcia will be quality middle-of-the-lineup bat for many years, though I'm not as confident it will be here.

    Eddie Rosario

    His stock dropped to an all-time low when he missed 50 games last year due to a drug suspension and failed to hit after returning, but Rosario's reclamation tour that began in the Arizona Fall League has been in full swing ever since. The 23-year-old stuck around longer than anyone expected in spring training, drawing consistent praise from Paul Molitor, and was the club's first choice when outfield reinforcements were needed from the minors one month in.

    Since his arrival in the big leagues, Rosario has done plenty to impress. He is one of only five players on the team with an OPS+ above 100, he's been a dynamic threat on the base paths, and his defense has stood out perhaps more than anything. Having Buxton in center and Rosario in a corner is reminiscent of the Hunter/Jones combo that turned the Metrodome outfield into a no-fly zone.

    Aaron Hicks

    It's getting harder and harder to believe that Hicks is going to hit enough to be a major league regular, especially in a corner spot. His .594 OPS with the Twins this year is nearly identical to his .604 overall mark in MLB. But as a switch-hitter that offers speed and premium defense at all three outfield spots, he has the makings of a strong bench option with the upside to eventually turn into a quality starter. He's still only 25 and his production in the minors (particularly in Triple-A this year) leaves no doubt that the offensive ability is there.

    Max Kepler

    Signed as a teenager out of Germany back in 2009, Kepler failed to dominate in his initial exposure to pro baseball here in the States. But with his prototypical build, tremendous athleticism and advanced grasp of the strike zone, he was always seen as a guy with the potential to blossom, given a little time. That is exactly what's now happening.

    Kepler is amidst a breakout season at Double-A, where he's hitting .331/.393/.530. He's flashing power (17 doubles and three homers), speed (five triples and nine steals) and discipline (23-to-19 K/BB). He's hitting lefties (827 OPS), which has been a problem in the past. Kepler is looking like the real deal, and an interesting additional piece in this outfield puzzle.

    Read Parker Hageman's midseason prospect update on Kepler here.

    Miguel Sano

    The notion of Sano moving to an outfield spot, spawned from questions surrounding his ability to stick at third and the entrenched incumbents at Minnesota's infield corners, has been brought up to Twins officials in the past and has never really been downplayed. Terry Ryan and others have been emphatic that the bulking 6'4", 260 lbs. slugger can move well enough to play out there. But up to this point, Sano still has not played a single pro inning at any outfield position, so this remains a theoretical idea. As the names mentioned above suggest, Sano may face no less of a logjam in the outfield corners than the infield ones.

    Joe Mauer

    The thinking here is twofold: First, Mauer has a good arm and still moves decently well, assets that go to waste when he's stationed at first base; second, his reduced offensive output plays a little better somewhere like left field -- where the average AL OPS is .706 – than at first base, where it's .792 (highest of any position). The Twins have a number of promising hitters in the system whose best fit appears to be first base, and right now Mauer is blocking them all while providing the worst production in the league for the position.

    TAKEAWAYS

    Looking over these candidates, I have three principal takeaways with regard to the Twins' outfield outlook.

    1) Arcia seems likely to be traded. The Twins have always valued defense and that's a major shortcoming for Arcia. There have also been indications that the coaching staff isn't always pleased with the slugger's demeanor. If his bat gets going again and draws interest from another club, I could easily see Ryan pulling the trigger.

    2) Hicks is running out of time if he hasn't already. Patience is always encouraged with young players, especially a former first-round pick who has produced in the minors, but Hicks is currently failing for a third time in the majors and now the rest of the organization's bright prospective outfield talent has either caught up or passed him.

    3) Mauer to left field should be strongly considered. Mainly because at least two people on this list (Kepler and Sano) strike me as better fits at first base than in the outfield, and that's not even mentioning Kennys Vargas, who has no possible landing spot other than first base or DH.

    Oh, and one other thing: Bringing back Hunter for another year shouldn't even be on the table, regardless of how he produces from here on out. He simply doesn't fit in the scope of what this team is trying to accomplish.

    What are your thoughts? What are your takeaways from this list, and which alignment would you like to see patrolling Minnesota's outfield for the next several years?

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    I was honestly surprised they brought him up, but on the other side, it's not like there was someone there blocking him like there is for Sano.  I think Buxton is going to spend the rest of the season up here.  I realize he cannot hit curves well, but they put him on the 40 early.  They would be silly to burn an option on him this season. 

     

    I was honestly surprised they brought him up, but on the other side, it's not like there was someone there blocking him like there is for Sano.  I think Buxton is going to spend the rest of the season up here.  I realize he cannot hit curves well, but they put him on the 40 early.  They would be silly to burn an option on him this season. 

     

    Not silly to burn an option but also very premature. Do you really expect the Twins to need to option him in 2018?

     

    People can't call for promotions and then panic because they struggle for a couple of games.

    I know Arcia has defensive problems. (Likely the understatement of the post)! But I just cannot stand the thought of another player going somewhere and reading about another successful ex Twin. His numbers for his age are excellent. If he is traded it will be regretted on a David Ortiz level at a minimum. Lastly, it's purported the field staff is not happy with his attitude. They weren't happy with Hardys or Gomez, or Garza, or.... well you get the picture. Good teams adapt and adjust to personalities. I have never seen Arcias name on a police blotter or his picture in the post office. But sadly, my guess is he will get traded for some nice safe 28 yr old pitcher who had a good yr at AAA last year, and who will not cause the field staff to have to roll their eyes on occasion.

    Sending Arcia to AAA is the right move. We don't need to read into that move a hopeless feeling on the part of the Twins staff. They expect better and sent a message to a young player. Every team encounters a poor attitude from a struggling young player. It is difficult to handle failure and sometimes prolonged failure doesn't happen until the major league level. The Twins can deal with Arcia by expecting and demanding better. I think Arcia will step up and meet those expectations. I think he will provide a much needed power bat against right handed pitching in his prime.

     

    Not silly to burn an option but also very premature. Do you really expect the Twins to need to option him in 2018?

     

    People can't call for promotions and then panic because they struggle for a couple of games.

    Nobody's panicking.  Buxton's promotion has been good both for him and for the fans.  Now that he knows how tough the pitchers are, he will be motivated to actually work on that part of his game.  He also learned that there are catchers up here who can throw him out.  More motivation.  As for me, I love seeing him run.

    He is the best defensive CF the team has had in a long time, and I would be OK with letting him stay just because of that, if the Twins think he can make progress on his hitting up here.

    The exact reasons you guys are proposing to keep Arcia, are the exact reasons I would trade him.

     

    Young, has power. That's valuable. Maybe not as much right now with the struggles, but he's shown that value. That's why you trade him. He could get you something useful back.

     

    We complain so much around here about them trading "low" on guys, so why are you so opposed to them attempting to trade "high" now?!

     

    I've never thought Arcia was a good fit for this team from a depth chart perspective (he's not an OF, and too many DH's). Love the youth, enthusiasm, and power. But it's been three years now and he hasn't developed into the type of hitter his minor league career suggests (.310 career MiLB hitter), only the power remains. I'd cash him in on something the Twins need in a heartbeat and wouldn't care how it turns out for him on another team. There's plenty of options to step up on the Twins and provide the power he takes with him elsewhere.

     

    Kepler is still a little ways off. The real issue is that the Twins and most fans dramatically overrate Rosario. It is essentially impossible to be successful with his current plate discipline and he's never had success above A-ball. 

     

    So that will happen is that the Twins get rid of Arcia, Rosario goes bust, and then even if Kepler pans out they are short an outfielder.

    Rosario's cumulative minor league stats....291 BA, .340 OBP, .820 OPS all while being younger than league avg at every level.  Not too bad

     

    Nothing in the original post about Adam Brett Walker? He's having a pretty good year in AA as well.

     

     

     

    I posted this on the Twins Daily twitter feed early this morning:

     

    June Stats
    Max Kepler: .356/.451/.593 (1.044) with 3-2B, 4-3B, 1 HR, 11 RBI
    AB Walker: .338/.380/.738 (1.119) with 6-2B, 1-3B, 6 HR, 18 RBI

     

    Based mostly on the fact that he's already pretty big at age 22, and he's started at first twice as much as in the outfield this year at Chattanooga. But I've heard plenty of reports (including Seth's above) that he can be a fine corner OF. 

     

    Kepler is really smooth in the outfield. Arm is average in RF, but good for the other two spots. He won't be an MLB CF, but he can play the position well. He runs really well. I mean, he's got 7 triples and several stolen bases, so he could play CF. I do think over time, and as he gains more strength (which he will), LF would probably be his best position, but he'd have no problem in RF or any of those spots.

     

    I would add that if you've got Rosario, Buxton, Hicks (maybe a Hicks/Arcia platoon at some point), then playing Kepler at 1B is just what's best for the team. That's where his versatility is nice. If they have a need at 4 (and obviously DH would be a 5th) positions, he could be an option.

    The exact reasons you guys are proposing to keep Arcia, are the exact reasons I would trade him.

     

    Young, has power. That's valuable. Maybe not as much right now with the struggles, but he's shown that value. That's why you trade him. He could get you something useful back.

     

    We complain so much around here about them trading "low" on guys, so why are you so opposed to them attempting to trade "high" now?!

     

    I've never thought Arcia was a good fit for this team from a depth chart perspective (he's not an OF, and too many DH's). Love the youth, enthusiasm, and power. But it's been three years now and he hasn't developed into the type of hitter his minor league career suggests (.310 career MiLB hitter), only the power remains. I'd cash him in on something the Twins need in a heartbeat and wouldn't care how it turns out for him on another team. There's plenty of options to step up on the Twins and provide the power he takes with him elsewhere.

    You are correct! Too many DH options. But trading the best one of the bunch, IMHO, is not a good idea. Especially if he has a prayer of also being a position player. Few remember that Tony Oliva was a horrible OF when he came here. I reiterate, in a slightly different way. The Twins are notorious for investing a couple years in a prospect, then dumping him so someone else can reap the benefits. The list is long. Plouffe and Dozier likely escaped because there were no alternatives. They were so down on Dozier they attempted to turn Rosario into a second baseman!

    Kepler is really smooth in the outfield. Arm is average in RF, but good for the other two spots. He won't be an MLB CF, but he can play the position well. He runs really well. I mean, he's got 7 triples and several stolen bases, so he could play CF. I do think over time, and as he gains more strength (which he will), LF would probably be his best position, but he'd have no problem in RF or any of those spots.

     

    I would add that if you've got Rosario, Buxton, Hicks (maybe a Hicks/Arcia platoon at some point), then playing Kepler at 1B is just what's best for the team. That's where his versatility is nice. If they have a need at 4 (and obviously DH would be a 5th) positions, he could be an option.

    It seems any scenario contemplated revolves around what to do with Mauer? He is the elephant in the room!

    You are correct in your Arcia assessment that the Twins have always valued defense.  But let's think back to Randy Bush.  He played a total of 50 games in the field from 1982-1985 and never hit higher than .249.  But he showed enough with a little power that, in 1986, and even to a greater extent after Tom Kelly took over, that they worked with him to become an adequate defensive player and a vital part of two World Series winners.  Do we really want to trade Arcia and see his offensive potention be realized somewhere else?  I think the Red Sox just called looking for an eventual replacement for Big Papi.

    It's all about the Minor League Fantasy Points - Lol

     

    #1 Hitter - Adam Brett Walker

    #1 Pitcher - Jose Berrios

    http://www.wetalkfantasysports.com/2015/06/Fantasy-Baseball-AA-Prospects.html

     

    Several twins farm hands in the running.  Several Twins future Outfielders in the running as well.  Decision Decisions

     

    Nobody's panicking.  Buxton's promotion has been good both for him and for the fans.  Now that he knows how tough the pitchers are, he will be motivated to actually work on that part of his game.  He also learned that there are catchers up here who can throw him out.  More motivation.  As for me, I love seeing him run.

    He is the best defensive CF the team has had in a long time, and I would be OK with letting him stay just because of that, if the Twins think he can make progress on his hitting up here.

     

    You just said send him down. He doesn't need additional motivation to work on his game, he needs reps.

     

     

    I would add that if you've got Rosario, Buxton, Hicks (maybe a Hicks/Arcia platoon at some point), then playing Kepler at 1B is just what's best for the team. That's where his versatility is nice. If they have a need at 4 (and obviously DH would be a 5th) positions, he could be an option.

     

    A question that's been bouncing around in my head.  Assume for a minute that Buxton, Rosario, Kepler, and Walker all start matching their theoretical potential (no I'm not predicting that, just musing).  Rosario and Buxton are definitely filling two of the OF spots, but which of Kepler or Walker (college 1B, no?) gets the last OF, and which mans 1B?

     

    A question that's been bouncing around in my head.  Assume for a minute that Buxton, Rosario, Kepler, and Walker all start matching their theoretical potential (no I'm not predicting that, just musing).  Rosario and Buxton are definitely filling two of the OF spots, but which of Kepler or Walker (college 1B, no?) gets the last OF, and which mans 1B?

     

    That's a good question... Walker is not a particularly good outfielder, and hasn't been playing 1B (was described as "stiff" there going into his draft).

     

    Kepler is the better option to me at both spots defensively. So if that's the conundrum, I think it's Max in the OF.

     

    You just said send him down. He doesn't need additional motivation to work on his game, he needs reps.

    No, he needs reps + instruction.  That's what the minor leagues are for.  He has already said that he had not seen curve balls like that at AA.

    Edited by DaveTMpls

     

    No, he needs reps + instruction.  That's what the minor leagues are for.  He has already said that he had not seen curve balls like that at AA.

     

    He would likely see better command in AAA relative to AA but not better stuff.

     

    And he will get much better instruction in the bigs than at AAA.

    I like Rosario--but then I liked how well Santana hit last year (not his CF defense though).  This year?  Is Rosario 2015's Santana?  Then does he become next year's 2015 Santana?  Hmm.  Panic (like every year) and rotate several players in the OF?  Ugh.  

     

    The Mauer problem can be solved by...splitting duty at Catcher next year with Suzuki.  Spot play at 1B and DH to ensure he plays every home game and plenty of road games.  Concussion issue?  Wait!  Wouldn't everybody have a concussion issue at Catcher?  Besides there are only three years left (after 2015) on his contract.  That seems like an acceptable risk of injury to me.

     

    Back to the OF discussion.  NO to Mauer, Sano, Santana, Escobar, and the rest of the infielders.  There simply are plenty of options (OK, not perfect options) to man the OF--use them.  Yes to (first Arcia).  I know he can't defend any better than an Iron Mike, but it's just too soon to give up on him.  That time will also permit Kepler, and the rest of the MiL gang to "age" some more and see which of them should be the first to replace Arcia should (when?) he fails.  Hicks is my #4 OF.

     

    Did I forget Hunter, Shafer, and Robison?  Yes.  I sang each of them my rendition of "Happy Trails to You".

     

    Rosario's cumulative minor league stats....291 BA, .340 OBP, .820 OPS all while being younger than league avg at every level.  Not too bad

     

    Like I said, his numbers above A-ball are atrocious. He isn't an elite athlete. He doesn't have great power. He has horrible plate discipline. Those are not the traits of a successful MLB player. Nor are any of those things easy to improve upon. He is a huge long-shot to establish himself as a solid big leaguer.

     

    Mauer is not going back to catcher. It. Is. Not. Happening.

     

    It's nice that you feel it is ok he takes on more brain injury risk......as if the only thing that matters is the number of years left on his contract.

    Why?  They had to convince Mauer to leave catcher for that oh so safe position of 1B (Morneau)?  But it must be fine for others to take  the risk at catcher?

     

    That's a good question... Walker is not a particularly good outfielder, and hasn't been playing 1B (was described as "stiff" there going into his draft).

     

    Kepler is the better option to me at both spots defensively. So if that's the conundrum, I think it's Max in the OF.

    Yup, Kepler is better at both spots, but given that he is not Tatiana Maslany, he can only play one. So what matters is comparative advantage, not absolute advantage (remember your college econ class on free trade?).  If DH is not occupied by a better option, I'd put Kepler in the OF and Walker at DH. If DH is occupied and 1B is not, then its a tough call, but I might agree that Kepler has a comparative advantage at 1B.

    Edited by nytwinsfan

    Walker Home Runs = 18

     

    2015 OUTFIELDERS

    Hunter - 8

    Rosario - 3

    Escobar - 3

    Arcia - 2

    Nunez - 1

    HIcks - 1

    Hermann - 1

    Shafer - 0

    Robinson - 0

    TOTAL  Home Runs = 19

    ----------------------------------

    Walker RBI = 57

     

    2015 OUTFIELDERS (Hunter excluded w/36)

    Escobar = 22

    Robinson = 15

    Rosario = 11

    Arcia = 8

    Nunez = 7

    Hicks = 2

    Total RBI = 65

     

    We're talking strike outs;  We're not talking production; We're talking strikeouts;  The man is putting in work everyday and We're talking strikeouts;  We're not talking production.  Lol

     

    Great kid and I imagine he will continue to work on the plate discipline.  Every year his production is questioned and every year he produces.  I say let him fail this year as a call up and work on those exploited flaws in AAA when they become apparent in his production results.  If he continues to flourish with production, then let him fail (Ks) on the job successfully.   While always working to get better.

     

    Those are sad statistical results listed above.  "GAME CHANGER"




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