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On 10/24/2025 at 12:24 PM, chpettit19 said:

Is it going to be considered smart if he does a great job and then goes to another team after the year and they have to go find a new manager? That's one of the many reasons why teams very rarely ever have a lame duck manager.

Not to mention how much respect he can demand in the clubhouse as a first-time manager who the players aren't even sure will be around beyond that year because the org didn't trust their hire enough to give him more than 1 year.

First, you’re creating a False Dilemma — a “what if” scenario based on a fictional future problem.
Let’s bring it back to real life: if Suzuki is doing a great job, the Angels can extend him midseason.
Teams do this all the time when a manager proves himself.

Second, you slip into circular reasoning:

One-year deal = players won’t respect him
Lack of respect = bad leadership
Therefore, one-year deal = bad

Back to reality: player respect isn’t determined by contract length — it’s earned through competence, communication, and leadership.

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23 hours ago, BillyBallLives said:

First, you’re creating a False Dilemma — a “what if” scenario based on a fictional future problem.
Let’s bring it back to real life: if Suzuki is doing a great job, the Angels can extend him midseason.
Teams do this all the time when a manager proves himself.

Second, you slip into circular reasoning:

One-year deal = players won’t respect him
Lack of respect = bad leadership
Therefore, one-year deal = bad

Back to reality: player respect isn’t determined by contract length — it’s earned through competence, communication, and leadership.

Suzuki gets a say in whether or not he'd sign an extension mid-season. The Angels don't just get to unilaterally force him into an extension. And if he's doing very well and looking like a manager of the year candidate he can wait until the offseason to see what other jobs are open. And if he likes those other options more he can leave. And then the Angels are stuck looking for another manager. It's what happened with Counsell and the Brewers/Cubs. 

I didn't say lack of respect = bad leadership, I said it makes it harder. And it does. There's some awfully large egos in professional locker rooms. And, yes, these things do play a role. You don't have to believe it, that's fine.

If 1 year deals were so smart every team would use them. But they don't. There's is very rarely ever a lame duck manager in major league baseball. There's a reason for that.

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