Twins Must Attempt to Follow Guardians' and Rays' Blueprints at MLB Trade Deadline

[Major League Ready]

21 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

Did a little research.  In this century, no team has sold and won a championship in less than eight years.  MOST have not been nearly that successful. 

Looking at the entire league makes no sense.  The MN Twins or any other team in the bottom half of revenue needs to utilize different strategies than high revenue teams.  If you look at Average or below average revenue teams, WS wins have become quite rare.  The White Sox won in 2005, in the 19 seasons since then, one below average revenue team has won the WS.  That would be the Royals in 2015.  Greinke was traded after the 2010 season and the won the WS the 5th year after that trade.  

The Royals got their best player (Cane) and their starting SS (Escober) in that trade.  The question to ask would be if they would have won the WS without selling.

If a below average revenue team wins the WS this year, it would likely be Detroit.  They sold off any veterans they could and started over.  Yes, it took a few years.  The question we should be asking is what below average team has won the WS in the past 20 years without a sell-off and rebuild.  The answer is none.  You can find the answer you seek by only asking questions that yield the answer you want but that does not mean you have come to a meaningful conclusion.
 

[dxpavelka]

On 7/21/2025 at 8:00 AM, mluebker said:

Still sounds like “wait and see” to me. Pohlad bought the Twins in 1984 and they were world champions in 1987. And from the perspective of a guy who’s been a Twins fan since 1961, even waiting eight years sounds better than the 34 years we’ve been waiting since they last time they did it in 1991.

 

That 8 years is AT best.

 

[dxpavelka]

On 7/21/2025 at 9:07 AM, Major League Ready said:

Looking at the entire league makes no sense.  The MN Twins or any other team in the bottom half of revenue needs to utilize different strategies than high revenue teams.  If you look at Average or below average revenue teams, WS wins have become quite rare.  The White Sox won in 2005, in the 19 seasons since then, one below average revenue team has won the WS.  That would be the Royals in 2015.  Greinke was traded after the 2010 season and the won the WS the 5th year after that trade.  

The Royals got their best player (Cane) and their starting SS (Escober) in that trade.  The question to ask would be if they would have won the WS without selling.

If a below average revenue team wins the WS this year, it would likely be Detroit.  They sold off any veterans they could and started over.  Yes, it took a few years.  The question we should be asking is what below average team has won the WS in the past 20 years without a sell-off and rebuild.  The answer is none.  You can find the answer you seek by only asking questions that yield the answer you want but that does not mean you have come to a meaningful conclusion.
 

Seems as though what you're REALLY saying is that they need to NOT be a below average revenue team.  How is new ownership or selling at the deadline going to change that?  I'll wait. 

[Major League Ready]

8 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

Seems as though what you're REALLY saying is that they need to NOT be a below average revenue team.  How is new ownership or selling at the deadline going to change that?  I'll wait. 

If that's what you got from this there is no point in further discussion.  How is a team in Minnesota going to generate revenue even remotely close to LA / NY or Boston?  It's reality.  They can adopt practices that mitigate the disadvantage inherent to a smaller market or the team (and fans) can stick their head in the sand by not recognizing the need to operate differently than teams in higher revenue markets.  

[mluebker]

21 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

That 8 years is AT best.

Still, you're looking at too short a period to be meaningful and with no idea who a new owner or owners might be, it's impossible to know their priorities. And again, just three years was all it took when Pohlad bought the team, and he was a notorious cheapskate. So predicting when the Twins might win another championship still is nothing but guesswork, regardless whether your glass is half full or half empty.

[dxpavelka]

2 hours ago, mluebker said:

Still, you're looking at too short a period to be meaningful and with no idea who a new owner or owners might be, it's impossible to know their priorities. And again, just three years was all it took when Pohlad bought the team, and he was a notorious cheapskate. So predicting when the Twins might win another championship still is nothing but guesswork, regardless whether your glass is half full or half empty.

it's not about my glass.  A whole lot of twins fans are going to be disappointed with whoever buys the team.  

[mluebker]

11 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

it's not about my glass.  A whole lot of twins fans are going to be disappointed with whoever buys the team.  

Or not. 

[dxpavelka]

14 hours ago, mluebker said:

Or not. 

think that

 

[mluebker]

On 7/24/2025 at 11:27 PM, dxpavelka said:

think that

Yup.