VIKES @ DEN 11/19/23

[Aggies7]

Gotta say, as much as I’m bagging on mattison, he got a blatant cheap shot early in the second half (I think). And I have no idea how it wasn’t flagged nor how he wasn’t knocked out of the game 

[Danchat]

1 hour ago, Aggies7 said:

All the kirko slander since Dobbs went wild, but I guarantee you he gets us a field goal try in that situation 

I dunno, O'Connell didn't give any options for Dobbs to deal with the blitzes Denver was sending on that last drive. Not to mention Hockenson. Maybe if Jefferson is out there Kirk gets you that FG. Addison was having trouble getting open as he got shadowed by one of the best CBs in football and Osborn is a nothing-burger.

Still, a lot of blunders from Dobbs this week, but he is still a top tier backup QB. Not to mention that this pass defense is coming off shutting down Mahomes and Allen the previous two games... they needed to win in the run game and the Mattison fumble / settling for FG really sealed their fate.

I'm still shocked they went 5-1 without JJ and 2-1 without Kirk. And they're still a near lock for the playoffs given the travesty that is the NFC, and we have tiebreakers against most the teams below us. Not that we're going to do any damage in the playoffs, mind you.

[Mike Sixel]

6 minutes ago, Danchat said:

I dunno, O'Connell didn't give any options for Dobbs to deal with the blitzes Denver was sending on that last drive. Not to mention Hockenson. Maybe if Jefferson is out there Kirk gets you that FG. Addison was having trouble getting open as he got shadowed by one of the best CBs in football and Osborn is a nothing-burger.

Still, a lot of blunders from Dobbs this week, but he is still a top tier backup QB. Not to mention that this pass defense is coming off shutting down Mahomes and Allen the previous two games... they needed to win in the run game and the Mattison fumble / settling for FG really sealed their fate.

I'm still shocked they went 5-1 without JJ and 2-1 without Kirk. And they're still a near lock for the playoffs given the travesty that is the NFC, and we have tiebreakers against most the teams below us. Not that we're going to do any damage in the playoffs, mind you.

They aren't a near lock without a QB that can pass. YMMV, of course

[Danchat]

9 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

They aren't a near lock without a QB that can pass. YMMV, of course

He's not a bad passer, but the reason why they're a near lock isn't because they're particularly good, it's because the schedule is easy (Bears at home, at Raiders, Bengals with Browning at QB, then Lions/Packers/Lions backups probably) and the competition in the NFC. Who is going to catch us? The Packers would have to go on a run from 4-6 to catch us, and even if they beat us they may not get the tiebreaker. One of the Saints/Falcons/Bucs has to win their division and the second place team probably isn't catching us. Or the Rams from 4-6. Are any of those teams even going to finish 9-8 outside of the AFC South winner?

[Mike Sixel]

25 minutes ago, Danchat said:

He's not a bad passer, but the reason why they're a near lock isn't because they're particularly good, it's because the schedule is easy (Bears at home, at Raiders, Bengals with Browning at QB, then Lions/Packers/Lions backups probably) and the competition in the NFC. Who is going to catch us? The Packers would have to go on a run from 4-6 to catch us, and even if they beat us they may not get the tiebreaker. One of the Saints/Falcons/Bucs has to win their division and the second place team probably isn't catching us. Or the Rams from 4-6. Are any of those teams even going to finish 9-8 outside of the AFC South winner?

Turnovers have killed them this year..... Isy hard to see them not getting to nine wins, but I'm also not counting on it.

[sampleSizeOfOne]

18 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Do they need nine or ten wins for the playoffs? 

Probably?

[AlwaysinModeration]

Kareem Jackson was just suspended 4 games for the hit in Dobbs that cause the fumble on the first drive.  The hit that wasn’t even called a personal foul during the game.

[Parfigliano]

1 hour ago, AlwaysinModeration said:

Kareem Jackson was just suspended 4 games for the hit in Dobbs that cause the fumble on the first drive.  The hit that wasn’t even called a personal foul during the game.

Hasnt he been suspended multiple games/times prior to this suspension?

[AlwaysinModeration]

19 hours ago, Parfigliano said:

Hasnt he been suspended multiple games/times prior to this suspension?

He was suspended for two games earlier this year—this was his first game back.  Could have made a big difference in that game if that fumble is called back.