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Too many recent players. Rivera on the list is a joke. Bonds is too high. Aaron is too low (guy was a machine). No Puckett, but Edgar Martinez?

 

---Yeah the Puckett omission would be defensible if they had put another great outfielder over him. But Edgar, though he could mash, was just a DH. If you want to be considered one of the top players ever, you should be able to at least competently field a position.

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Haven't followed it. ESPN has become really bad the last few years, esp to baseball. Lots of better places around. I think I stopped going there when they revamped their message boards.

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One thing less productive than ranked lists of players is quibbling about the rankings.

 

---If you re-read my comments, I think you'll see I was going beyond 'quibbling' in my disagreement with putting Jackson at #55. I don't think he belongs in the top 155.

 

But that aside, you know what's unproductive? Polluting a thread with snide comments belittling the topic.

 

The TD crew included rule #5 in the proposed comment policy to address this exact behavior because it was happening so much and it drags down the quality of the discourse.

 

If you don't feel that player rankings are worth discussing, then simply don't participate in the discussion. Move along and find a thread on a topic you feel is worthwhile.

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Guys ranked too high:

 

1) Reggie Jackson (55)

2) Pedro Martinez (41)

3) Chipper Jones (49)

4) Ivan Rodriguez (71)

5) Alex Rodriguez (18) - roid issues aside

 

Guys who are ranked too low

 

1) Mike Piazza (78)

2) Rod Carew (53)

3) Carlton Fisk (76)

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---If you re-read my comments, I think you'll see I was going beyond 'quibbling' in my disagreement with putting Jackson at #55. I don't think he belongs in the top 155.

 

But that aside, you know what's unproductive? Polluting a thread with snide comments belittling the topic.

 

The TD crew included rule #5 in the proposed comment policy to address this exact behavior because it was happening so much and it drags down the quality of the discourse.

 

If you don't feel that player rankings are worth discussing, then simply don't participate in the discussion. Move along and find a thread on a topic you feel is worthwhile.

 

You're right.

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The biggest travesty is Jackie Robinson, at #52, between Rod Carew and Ernie Banks. His place, as a historic icon, is in the top 10. My other icon, Roberto Clemente is #33. Someday I hope Clemente's #21 hangs in every ballpark alongside #42. These two men made historic contributions, that exceeded their excellence on the field.

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In just isolating pitchers it looks weighted to recent performances and longevity. (44) Sandy Koufax and (32) Bob Gibson being so significantly down the list from (7) Clemens is plain wrong. (100) Phi Niekro and (79) Robin Roberts also seem to be concessions to longevity.

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Guys ranked too high:

 

1) Reggie Jackson (55)

2) Pedro Martinez (41)

3) Chipper Jones (49)

4) Ivan Rodriguez (71)

5) Alex Rodriguez (18) - roid issues aside

 

Guys who are ranked too low

 

1) Mike Piazza (78)

2) Rod Carew (53)

3) Carlton Fisk (76)

Totally agree with you. Piazza was one of the new-age catchers who was tops in defense and offense.

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There were a lot of choices that I wondered about but for some reason the one that stuck out was Warren Spahn at only #45. Really? Randy Johnson at #23 was that much better than Spahn? Mickey Mantle at #9? And Walter Johnson needs to be the top pitcher.

 

My top 5:

 

Ruth

Mays

Williams

Aaron

Cobb

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