Article: Gibson, Hicks among 8 players added to Twins 40 man roster

[Cody Christie]

I hope Slama is given an opportunity with someone. He seems like a decent guy and he deserves another shot in the big leagues.

[tellis205]

Dave St. Peter was on Syd and Dave's show on Sunday and made the comment

"I wouldn't be surprised if we make a couple deals during the Winter Meetings coming up". So let's wait a few weeks and see what happens.

[Kwak]

Dave St. Peter was on Syd and Dave's show on Sunday and made the comment

"I wouldn't be surprised if we make a couple deals during the Winter Meetings coming up". So let's wait a few weeks and see what happens.

If the Twins don't make any deals as a result of the Winter meetings there will outrage across the tundra. The Twins may continue to deal through Spring Training but they have to be able to show something by a couple days after the Winter meetings close.

[MrHockey]

I have to imagine it's almost a lock that Anthony Slama gets taken in the Rule 5 draft. There has to be a team like the Royals or Astros that would be more than willing to give him a shot for an entire season.

 

I agree that there is some team willing to give Slama a shot, especially after his performance last year.

 

I believe he was eligible in 2011 for the Rule 5 Draft but was not chosen. My guess is that he must have spit (or is it spat) sunflower seeds at Gardy at some point in his career.

[Jeremy Nygaard]

I have to imagine it's almost a lock that Anthony Slama gets taken in the Rule 5 draft. There has to be a team like the Royals or Astros that would be more than willing to give him a shot for an entire season.

 

I agree that there is some team willing to give Slama a shot, especially after his performance last year.

 

I believe he was eligible in 2011 for the Rule 5 Draft but was not chosen. My guess is that he must have spit (or is it spat) sunflower seeds at Gardy at some point in his career.

 

He wasn't expected to get drafted in the Rule 5 draft last year because he was outrighted off the roster in October and went unclaimed. If anyone at all wanted him, they could have had him for free. A month and a half later no team was going to cough up $50K and a major league roster spot.

[Jeremy Nygaard]

for many of these guys.............. IF they arem (would have been) chosen......... the odds of them staying on any teams' active roster is so minute, that it really doesn't matter if they are on the twins' 40 man. plus, the original team comes out 25K to the good. do they have to go through waivers? what is the harm of not protecting those that are in A ball or AA ball? you would get them back anyway. and probably sooner than later.

 

Agreed. The part that irritates me is that they add eight guys, six of which have ceilings as replacement-level guys, yet don't add Salcedo who still has potential to be at least a mid-rotation starter.

 

I wouldn't have added Salcedo myself, but there's no way I add eight guys before him.

 

I wouldn't have added 8 either, I don't think, but like I said above, I can see the case. Salcedo was so hurt last year that no one would take him this offseason and be able to keep him on the big league roster, and my assumptino is that he will be too healthy next year to just throw on the DL. So, he's an easy choice to not add whereas a guy like Thielbar or Wood could be selected and would have no problem sticking on the big league roster of a team that has an open spot, or a bad team just trying to add pieces.

 

BA released their first Rule 5 draft preview today.

 

There were no Twins included in the list of 10 guys that could hear their named called. There were also no Twins included (surprisingly?) in the five names that fell into the "They were protected?" category.

 

The Tigers apparently added a SS that batted .195 in high-class A last year. (Maybe they feared the Twins would take him?)

[ThePuck]

Players who were signed when they were 19 or older and have played in professional baseball for four years are eligible, as are players who were signed at 18 and have played for five years.

[Rosterman]

Be interesting to see what players Miami and Houston might grab. Sometimes you can find a gem, like Slama, as a team's 41st player.

 

Could someone explain the rules to the minor league portion of the draft?

 

And, yes, fewer and fewer teams can "stash"a player. I think the Twins may have wished that they had stashed Terry Doyle last season, though.

[Jeremy Nygaard]

Could someone explain the rules to the minor league portion of the draft?

 

In addition to the 40-man roster, teams have a AAA and AA reserve list. These lists aren't public knowledge, so it's hard to know who will be available and who won't be... but if you're not on the reserve lists, you're available to be selected.

[Seth Stohs]

The Tigers apparently added a SS that batted .195 in high-class A last year. (Maybe they feared the Twins would take him?)

 

 

Dixon Machado. I saw him last year in Beloit, playing for West Michigan. He made me stop doing anything to watch him take infield at shortstop. Unbelievably smooth glove. He was their ninth hitter last year, and I"m sure he was again. Again, I don't know that I would have protected him, but there are so few pure shortstops that when teams find them, they protect them.

[Seth Stohs]

Could someone explain the rules to the minor league portion of the draft?

 

In addition to the 40-man roster, teams have a AAA and AA reserve list. These lists aren't public knowledge, so it's hard to know who will be available and who won't be... but if you're not on the reserve lists, you're available to be selected.

 

Yeah, we can assume that guys like Pugh and Salcedo will be on the AAA reserve list. Guys who will be eligible for next year's big league Rule 5 (Wimmers, Roberts) would need to be on the AAA reserve list this year. A player who needs to be added to the big league 40 man in two years (Michael, etc.) would need to be on the AA reserve list this year.

[ScottyB]

Dave St. Peter was on Syd and Dave's show on Sunday and made the comment

"I wouldn't be surprised if we make a couple deals during the Winter Meetings coming up". So let's wait a few weeks and see what happens.

 

I sure hope they make a trade or two to clear out some space for the Rule 5 draft. I'd take a flyer on Daniel Rosenbaum from the Nats. I think he could be 'Diamondesque". A lefty starter with 4 pitches. Not a top-of-the rotation guy, but better than anything we've got right now.

 

Question: Are there multiple rounds in the draft? It seems to me that the Tigers had multiple Rule 5 picks 1 year when they were awful.

[Jeremy Nygaard]

[Question: Are there multiple rounds in the draft? It seems to me that the Tigers had multiple Rule 5 picks 1 year when they were awful.

 

You can make selections as long as you have room on your 40-man. And as long as there is room, you can pick until you pass. A lot of teams pass in the first round. But, yeah, there are multiple rounds...

[Alex]

For Slama's sake I hope he gets picked in the rule V......anyone except the White Sox is fine.

 

Just a correction... It's the Rule 5 draft, not the Rule V draft...

 

Anyway, I like Anthony and I sincerely hope for him that he does get selected. But teams have had opportunities to pick him up and haven't. I'd be shocked if he was taken now. In part because the last few years only about 10-12 players get drafted in the Rule 5, few stick, and they're generally younger.

 

Isn't the fact that they're under team control likely part reason and not just younger? Slama did put a great season together in AAA and that could easily have changed minds. It seems like the back of the bullpen is an easy place to keep a Rule 5 pick (at worst.) Slama could give a team at least a couple of years (possibly more) very cheap.

 

Last season, Terry Ryan said Slama would get his shot (2013), but to me, this doesn't seem to coincide with that statement, at least if he meant with the Twins. If he really wanted to give him his shot, wouldn't he have been protected just in case? Though maybe these other younger players are more valuable long term.

[old nurse]

Be interesting to see what players Miami and Houston might grab. Sometimes you can find a gem, like Slama, as a team's 41st player.

 

Could someone explain the rules to the minor league portion of the draft?

 

And, yes, fewer and fewer teams can "stash"a player. I think the Twins may have wished that they had stashed Terry Doyle last season, though.

 

I really hope you are not serious. Doyle was released by Chicago. After a glorious late summer in Japan he is in the Red Sox minor leagues. In short. if the Twins had wanted him at any point last year they could have had him.

Well documented but not well remembered is that any team could have had Slama for free. So his gem must be zirconium.

[Rosterman]

Doyle arranged his release to sign with Japan, so he didn't pass thru waivers. He had a decent AAA for the Sox and pitched well in Japan. He was a minors free agent and signed with the Red Sox this season. He may have been a bust (had a horrible spring for the Twins) but considering the need the Twins had for a starter last year, it would've been a great opportunity...but the Twins had more faith in Gray and Maloney for the back of the bullpen. My gripe is that they did see something in him that was worth $50,000. But it was as much a blown opportunity by Doyle as it was by the Twins.

[SpantheMan]

If Oliveros I moved to the 60-day Dl to clear a 40man roster spot could he be drafted in the rule-5 draft?

[Shane Wahl]

Obviously Tim Wood doesn't belong anywhere near this team. If he ends up being the 2013 equivalent of Jeff Gray, I will just give up on this team.

[SweetOne69]

If Oliveros I moved to the 60-day Dl to clear a 40man roster spot could he be drafted in the rule-5 draft?

 

no, since he can't be put on the DL until the end of ST.