Siehbiscuit Verified Member Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Justin Upton, BJ Upton, Bryce Harper, Mike Trout, Ken Griffey Jr - All of these guys are American-born players that were OUTFIELDERS. Their advantage was not in just understanding the culture, which is a major hurdle, but they are playing defensive positions that allows them to use there athleticism to its fullest. When Miguel Cabrera first came up with the Marlins, he was playing left field. Centerfield is a very important defensive position, but when you have the natural ability to run the way all of these guys I listed, it can cover up some of the technical flaws in their defense. With Sano, clearly the Twins management thinks he can be a corner infielder. He isn't allowed to just shag fly balls and make sure he is hitting the cutoff man, he is having to work hard on his defense. The time and practice this takes is mentally taxing enough, but add to it the offensive expectations and cultural adjustments. Sano was 16 when he came to the Twins. Most of us would have been playing our SOPHOMORE seasons of high school ball. Byron Buxton was just drafted and as an 18 year old (only one year younger than Sano), fans and experts alike expect him to spend probably 4 years in the minors before getting a sniff at MLB. The Sano debate is only a debate, because it seems like he has been in our system for awhile. His age is huge to consider. He has tremendous power as we know, but the SKILLS in his game need a lot more than just some tweaking. If Buxton has at least four years to go, can't we wait three more for Sano? Lastly, if our favorite team was competitive and in the midst of a mid-2000's type of run, would we as fans be pushing for some of our top prospects to be pushed so hard or would we be patient and just wait for them so we could reload instead of rebuild? Elite prospects should be treated correctly and pushed on the timeline that is right for them and REGARDLESS of how the parent club is doing.
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted November 13, 2012 Author Posted November 13, 2012 Yeah I agree it is important for even the most elite prospects to have plenty of seasoning in the minors. But, it would be nice to see some of our guys get pushed out of their comfort zone a bit and see if that helps them develop even faster. In no way do I think Sano was ready for AA ball last year. But I do think his offensive production warranted a look in Ft. Myers to finish the year. Along with Rosario, by the way
jtrinaldi Provisional Member Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Watching Sano for the full year this year, I can say that he is the Best Hitter to come through the MWL, since 2009 when Wil Myers was in Burlington, and Mike Trout was in Cedar Rapids. Both Trout and Myers(then a catcher) hit for average, compared to Sano who hit for Power. I have never seen a player that brought people to the ballpark in the MWL like Sano did. Fans knew who Sano was, and on the road, people actually came to the games just to see if he is as advertised. When I was in Lake County, and Fort Wayne in my Beloit gear, I had people coming up to me asking me if Sano was as good as they have been saying he is on the radio. Next years Midwest league class will be Correa/Addison Russell/Almora.
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted November 17, 2012 Author Posted November 17, 2012 While his average isn't a huge deal his swings and misses are a huge deal when talking about moving a guy to the majors. 144 times in low A doesn't cry out ready for the Majors. You didn't even bring up that the guy has no true position in the field and at this point will probably be a RF, DH or 1B guy. 3B is highly dubious. If he can't play 3rd it limits his upside. Byron Buxton is most likely the Twins top prospect and then Sano. We bring up Sano and waste his service time when he's not ready. He isn't close to the prospect Harper is. Not even close. Hopefully Sano will be ready for some big league ball by 2015. This is exactly why Sano would make such a great beer batter
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted January 16, 2013 Author Posted January 16, 2013 How many K's for Sano in Ft. Myers next year? Homers?
Shane Wahl Verified Member Posted January 16, 2013 Posted January 16, 2013 How many K's for Sano in Ft. Myers next year? Homers? 80 and 20. He should not be there the full year, in my view. In New Britain, the numbers will be better for him. He ought to be there by mid-July and probably learning first base.
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted January 17, 2013 Author Posted January 17, 2013 80 and 20. He should not be there the full year, in my view. In New Britain, the numbers will be better for him. He ought to be there by mid-July and probably learning first base. Wow! That's a fresh take on Sano....I just can't see him striking out less than 100 times in a full season. He might hit 30 HR's though. My money is on the Twins keeping Sano/Rosario at A+ all year. I do NOT see either Sano or Rosario moving from their respective postions (at least next year). They need to learn 3B and 2B, and the organization will give them a full year in Florida to do it. In 2014, they get their first serious audition at New Britain with a chance to be Sept call-ups
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Wow! That's a fresh take on Sano....I just can't see him striking out less than 100 times in a full season. He might hit 30 HR's though. My money is on the Twins keeping Sano/Rosario at A+ all year. I do NOT see either Sano or Rosario moving from their respective postions (at least next year). They need to learn 3B and 2B, and the organization will give them a full year in Florida to do it. In 2014, they get their first serious audition at New Britain with a chance to be Sept call-ups Yeah, there is no chance that Sano (assuming health) strikes out less than 100 times. I'd be shocked! I'm completely comfortable with both of them spending the full season in Ft. Myers.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 If these two continue to produce and improve, I would not be comfortable with them spending an entire year without a promotion. If sticking at 3B and 2B means they absolutely need a full year with the Ft. Myers instructors than I'd fully support an entire season in the FSL. If not, then they need to advance based on their productivity.
FrodaddyG Verified Member Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Yeah, there is no chance that Sano (assuming health) strikes out less than 100 times. I'd be shocked! I'm completely comfortable with both of them spending the full season in Ft. Myers.I assume he said 80 because the poster thinks he should not be there the full year, and the question he was answering asked for strikeouts at Ft. Myers.
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Author Posted January 18, 2013 I assume he said 80 because the poster thinks he should not be there the full year, and the question he was answering asked for strikeouts at Ft. Myers. Ahh. Thank you
ThePuck Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Delmon is a decent comparison for Sano, but Delmon was pushed through the minors quickly like Harper. Delmon played in AAA at age 19. Sano just finished low-A ball at 19. So that isnt a fair comparison either. Delmon signed a major league contract when he was drafted, they had no choice but to promote him. Tampa only had 3 option years.
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Author Posted January 18, 2013 Delmon signed a major league contract when he was drafted, they had no choice but to promote him. Tampa only had 3 option years. that's insane! A high school outfielder gets a major league contract?? Well, Delmon did produce in the minors, and he was probably as ready as he could have been at the time of his promotion. Delmon has regressed so much as an athlete. I really hope Sano can stay in shape and play defense. My gosh...look at what Delmon did in the South Atlantic League as an 18-yr-old!
ThePuck Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 that's insane! A high school outfielder gets a major league contract?? Well, Delmon did produce in the minors, and he was probably as ready as he could have been at the time of his promotion. Delmon has regressed so much as an athlete. I really hope Sano can stay in shape and play defense. My gosh...look at what Delmon did in the South Atlantic League as an 18-yr-old! Yup, drafted, signed, put right on the 40 man roster. He's not the first guy to sign one, but you're right it's rare.
kab21 Verified Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Actually it was common for top picks to sign MLB contracts until the last CBA stopped them.
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Author Posted January 18, 2013 Actually it was common for top picks to sign MLB contracts until the last CBA stopped them. Imagine Buxton in Minnesota's CF as a 20-yr-old. Would not happen...but can you imagine the type of career numbers Buxton could amass with that many potential MLB seasons?
ThePuck Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Actually it was common for top picks to sign MLB contracts until the last CBA stopped them. He didn't say top picks, he was just amazed that an high school player signed a major league contract after being drafted. Was it common for high schoolers to get major league contracts upon being drafted? Cause that's what he was amazed by.
Badsmerf Verified Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 The only reason Sano spends an entire year in the FSL is to work on defense. The Twins have pushed prospects a little harder once they hit the FSL, so I wouldn't be surprised by a promotion mid-season.
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Author Posted January 18, 2013 He didn't say top picks, he was just amazed that an high school player signed a major league contract after being drafted. Was it common for high schoolers to get major league contracts upon being drafted? Cause that's what he was amazed by. Exactly
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Author Posted January 18, 2013 The only reason Sano spends an entire year in the FSL is to work on defense. The Twins have pushed prospects a little harder once they hit the FSL, so I wouldn't be surprised by a promotion mid-season. I sincerely hope Sano AND Rosario get pushed up to AA by the end of 2013
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