Front Page: Free Agent Faceoff: Madison Bumgarner Is Not Who You Think He Is Edition

[mikelink45]

Why are we arguing about what we should sign and what we should pay.  Sign the player who is willing to sign with us and will make it better.  Do not bother me with the strange moneys that these contracts have in them.  Just make next year better than this year.

 

[DocBauer]

Just some overall thoughts on the topic at hand.

 

I want the Twins to move the needle. They are very good, but there is room to get better. I think you would clearly find the Twins themselves feeling the same way.

 

Now, in addition to just getting better, there really is one primary, initial goal; reaching the post season. You can't win squat unless you get their first. Period. I would love the Twins to acquire a true ACE pitcher. Not going to argue the value of the 2 FA available or the viability to actually join the Twins, other than to state the obvious that there never really are too many of these guys around. And there sure isn't anyone out there, to my knowledge, with a FOR SALE sign in the window offering up said ACE type pitcher.

 

But the team can, should, will improve themselves via FA or trade on the mound. I don't have any illusions that Bumgarner will suddenly return to his previous form. However, a new staff and new opportunity may indeed see some sort of up tick. But if he could join Berrios, Odorizzi and Pineda creating a quality and deep rotation of #2-3's, I would be very happy with that.

 

Perhaps Bumgarner is not that guy. Perhaps it's someone they need to trade for. I think it's a bit misguided to go shopping and ordering up an All Star #1 ACE SP. It just doesn't work that way. But you can still get deeper, stronger and better.

 

I just hope they pick the right guy, whoever he may be.

[howeda7]

 

Bumgarner is not as good as Wheeler. We went 5/100 on him. 4/76 is where I'd go on madbum. I could see a 5th year if it was a team option of 19mil with a 2-3mil buyout.

 

But our AAV offer to Bumgarner should be less than Wheeler imo.

Even if it means getting neither? If it takes 5/$100 to get MadBaum, so be it. We don't have many (any) better options. 

[MMMordabito]

I wonder who we think he is at 9 figures.

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/12/madison-bumgarner-reportedly-asking-for-nine-figure-contract.html

[Mike Sixel]

I wonder who we think he is at 9 figures.

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/12/madison-bumgarner-reportedly-asking-for-nine-figure-contract.html

No real surprise. That's how I would start negotiations if I was him. I have no idea how he'll age..... It's surely risky, but so is trusting bad players to get better, like Perez, or rookies to be good.