Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Twins:Denard Span CFBen Revere RFJoe Mauer CJosh Willingham LFJustin Morneau 1BRyan Doumit DHTrevor Plouffe 3BJamey Carroll 2BPedro Florimon SS(Scott Diamond P) Mariners:Dustin Ackley 2BFranklin Gutierrez CFKyle Seager 3BJesus Montero DHJustin Smoak 1BMiguel Olivo CEric Thames RFTrayvon Robinson LFBrendan Ryan SS(Hisashi Iwakuma P)
snepp Verified Member Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 I don't disagree with something Dave Cameron writes very often, but I think he really missed on this one concerning Diamond in his game preview writeup on USSM. He’s probably a decent #5 starter given his strikes and groundballs approach to the game, but he’s not as good as his 2012 numbers look. True, he's not as good as his ERA would indicate, but his peripherals are still pretty good, and much better than what you'd expect out of a back of the rotation guy.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 28, 2012 Author Posted August 28, 2012 I don't disagree with something Dave Cameron writes very often, but I think he really missed on this one concerning Diamond in his game preview writeup on USSM. He’s probably a decent #5 starter given his strikes and groundballs approach to the game, but he’s not as good as his 2012 numbers look. True, he's not as good as his ERA would indicate, but his peripherals are still pretty good, and much better than what you'd expect out of a back of the rotation guy. I'm tired of hearing "#4/#5 blah blah blah" guy. Diamond is no world-beater but he has a decent chance of being a good mid-rotation starter. Yes, his strikeout figures are low. Yes, the rest of his peripherals are mediocre. But when combined, he's a pretty good pitcher. Maybe not as good as 2012 makes it seem, but he's still a quality guy who shouldn't collapse like Blackburn as long as he can keep the ball down.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 28, 2012 Author Posted August 28, 2012 Also, going to the game tonight. I don't think I've ever seen Diamond pitch live.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Also, going to the game tonight. I don't think I've ever seen Diamond pitch live. I genuinely want to hear your take afterwards. I've been pulling for the guy all year, it's a great story how the Twins practically fell into a guy ready to step up and be a stopper when all around him is chaos.
Ted666 Verified Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 I'm gonna watch because of Diamond
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 Why no Span? Anyone?
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Well, its always good to start with your lead-off hitter on base .... especially when the opponent didn't score in the top of the 1st!BTW,Revere CFMastroianni RFChange after Brock posted the line-ups. How long will Span's shoulder soreness last?
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Twitter says "shoulder soreness".And I don't know why my spacing got all messed up in my last post..
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 And bah, humbug on DPs taking that lead-off hitter out.
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 After you have a good time at the game Brock, please come in here and figure out where the spaces and line breaks went.
Alex Verified Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Twitter says "shoulder soreness".And I don't know why my spacing got all messed up in my last post.. Now, Twins start the no DL game with him again, though doesn't probably matter with Sept. callups soon.
Top Gun Provisional Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Denard Span is considered day-to-day with soreness in his right collarbone. The injury was originally reported as shoulder soreness. Span has been dealing with soreness in both areas for a couple weeks now, though he returned to play four games over the last week. With roster expansion looming, he won't be placed on the DL. Source: Rhett Bollinger on Twitter
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Hairline fracture in his collar bone that they missed before? Bets anyone?
Ted666 Verified Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Hairline fracture in his collar bone that they missed before? Bets anyone?I'll bet you are right
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Hairline fracture in his collar bone that they missed before? Bets anyone?I'll bet you are right You mean something simple that an MRI would have picked up a week ago?
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 It pisses me off so much that Revere wanted to bunt there. That is stupid baseball.
Ted666 Verified Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Guys on 2nd & 3rd no outs and they score 1 run. I'm happy. I was sure they wouldn't score at all.
Winston Smith Verified Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 I can only guess that "shoulder soreness" will turn into "bilateral shoulder weakness". Kind of looks like the league is catching up with Mr Diamond.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 For lack of a more polite way to put it, this team is un-****ing-watchable.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 29, 2012 Author Posted August 29, 2012 I don't think it has as much to do with the league catching up so much as it has to do with him throwing meatballs over the plate last inning. Guys were squaring up on him and drilling the ball.
snepp Verified Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 For lack of a more polite way to put it, this team is un-****ing-watchable. Concur.
IdahoPilgrim Provisional Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 For lack of a more polite way to put it, this team is un-****ing-watchable. I did something I rarely do - I changed the channel. Normally I suffer in silence the whole nine innings, but right now I'm watching the Lynx on NBA-TV. And I don't really like basketball.
Ultima Ratio Verified Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Guess we have to move plouffe back to the OF or 1B where throwing accuracy is less important. Come on guy.
glunn Community Moderator Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 For lack of a more polite way to put it, this team is un-****ing-watchable. I did something I rarely do - I changed the channel. Normally I suffer in silence the whole nine innings, but right now I'm watching the Lynx on NBA-TV. And I don't really like basketball. Because of the time difference I need to DVR the games to catch the first few innings, but now I have stopped bothering. Just too painful to watch.
Winston Smith Verified Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Dick said they are hitting .307 off Diamond in Aug not including tonight. That may mean more meatballs or scouts are getting better reports on him thus teams are hitting him better. Might also just be a bad month, time will tell.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 I don't think it has as much to do with the league catching up so much as it has to do with him throwing meatballs over the plate last inning. Guys were squaring up on him and drilling the ball. Yeah, but when the Mariners, of all teams, are squaring up on him and drilling the ball, I think that's another definition of the league catching up with you. At least Diamond just hit the mark for the Twins definition of a QS.
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