Airport shooting

[Badsmerf]

From someone that flies a lot, how the **** did he have a gun in there?!!! Checked baggage? That's what they're going with? Man.... I fly once or twice a week and just got my tsa speed check thing. Everything is going to change again. Really curious where this guy came from and what he had against a bunch of unarmed citizens. Coward.

[Squirrel]

I'm at RSW right now waiting to board and fly back to ORD. I'm just trying not to think about it for now because I'm at an airport.

 

You fly all the time and just got TSA precheck? I've had it for a while ... could I have had it two years or more, had it been around that long? Anyway ... LOVE IT!!!!! Especially when I have no checked bags which is most of the time.

[Squirrel]

Btw, and this is just me and one of my peccadilloes, I really dislike asking to move seats to accommodate someone. Especially when being asked to move from an aisle to a window, ick no! Sorry for the thread jack. I'm just in travel mode now. I hate flying. So yeah just really trying not to think of the current incident.

[Badsmerf]

I procrastinated. Started this job little over a year ago. I fly though Chicago all the time actually. I got the Chase sapphire and one of the benefits is paid tsa precheck. Awesome card, and finally got around to making my life easier at the airport.

[Squirrel]

It's just amazing. You don't have to pull stuff out of your carry on and you don't have to practically undress to go through security. It has been such a time saver as now I don't need to plan to get to the airport 90-120 mins early.

[Pardon My Dinger]

This thread has taken an eerily desensitized turn.

[Squirrel]

This thread has taken an eerily desensitized turn.

It's my fault. I'm currently sitting on a plane at an airport a couple hours (by car) from Fort Lauderdale and I really don't want to think about it right now. Fort Myers took in some of the diverted flights. It's just a little too close to home and I just want to get home. We as a society are doomed. ****ed. Screwed.

[TheLeviathan]

Airport shooting thread became about credit cards and moving seats in less than 10 posts.

 

Bravo.

[Badsmerf]

Her fault.

[ashbury]

Airport shooting thread became about credit cards and moving seats in less than 10 posts.

 

Bravo.

Chase is a reprehensible company to do business with.

[Squirrel]

Her fault.

I think I gave a pretty legitimate reason for it, and apologized in post 3.

 

Honestly, though, plane rage ... I just cannot relate to solving anything in that manner. It's difficult for me to talk about something I completely do not get. Let alone get into the conversation on guns, which gets us no where. It's legal to check your guns in your checked bags. I had no idea.

[TheLeviathan]

It's legal to check your guns in your checked bags. I had no idea.

 

 

This was also news to me.  Seems like a bad idea.

[Pardon My Dinger]

Makes no sense. Personal firearms make no sense.

[Squirrel]

This was also news to me.  Seems like a bad idea.

I can't remember where but someone I was talking to at the airport was saying that in some state they were talking about an open carry law at airports being introduced. I didn't ask, but What? In non-security areas? Well, I guess if you can pack and check a gun in baggage, I guess when you arrive, you can strap it on.

[ashbury]

OK, my earlier flippancy aside: Is there any information at all on the shooter's motive?

 

Were his victims fellow passengers on his flight? Plane rage sounds off the mark if not.

 

The scenario sounds not so much different than if someone mentally ill (as this shooter apparently had already been diagnosed) arrived locally at the baggage claim with a firearm.

[TheLeviathan]

 

I can't remember where but someone I was talking to at the airport was saying that in some state they were talking about an open carry law at airports being introduced. I didn't ask, but What? In non-security areas? Well, I guess if you can pack and check a gun in baggage, I guess when you arrive, you can strap it on.

 

Gun laws in this country never cease to amaze me.

[Squirrel]

Gun laws in this country never cease to amaze me.

It's why I have difficulties discussing them because I just don't get it. From the mentality to actually shoot someone to the arsenal some think they need to have to carrying everywhere in public to ... etc etc. some of it just seems insane to me.

[Squirrel]

OK, my earlier flippancy aside: Is there any information at all on the shooter's motive?

 

Were his victims fellow passengers on his flight? Plane rage sounds off the mark if not.

 

The scenario sounds not so much different than if someone mentally ill (as this shooter apparently had already been diagnosed) arrived locally at the baggage claim with a firearm.

I haven't read anything but from what fellow passengers were talking about it stemmed from a disagreement he had on the flight. With whom I don't know nor do I know who the victims were, intended and/or unintended. I really didn't want to know anything right before flying. I'm in a cab now away from the airport on my way home. I'll read reports when I'm settled back in.

[TheLeviathan]

 

It's why I have difficulties discussing them because I just don't get it. From the mentality to actually shoot someone to the arsenal some think they need to have to carrying everywhere in public to ... etc etc. some of it just seems insane to me.

 

I share your total disconnect with that mentality.  I simply don't get it.

[Badsmerf]

I've checked a number of rifles and shotguns traveling back and forth from Minnesota and Alaska when I was a kid. Baggage claim areas are not all that safe anyway. At some point, I believe we will come to our senses about the gun violence in this country. I am an optimist.

[Squirrel]

 

I've checked a number of rifles and shotguns traveling back and forth from Minnesota and Alaska when I was a kid. Baggage claim areas are not all that safe anyway. At some point, I believe we will come to our senses about the gun violence in this country. I am an optimist.

Living in Chicago, optimism is difficult on this subject.

[biggentleben]

 

Chase is a reprehensible company to do business with.

 

Really upset that they besmirch my good name.

[twinsnorth49]

At some point, I believe we will come to our senses about the gun violence in this country. I am an optimist.

I really hope you're right, but I'm not nearly as optimistic.

[twinsnorth49]

Gun laws in this country never cease to amaze me.

You and the rest of the civilized world.

[Squirrel]

Well, now that I've read a bit, being back home, my earlier comment was incorrect. There were no incidents on flight or at the baggage claim ... this was not a 'rage' case. They don't really know of motives, but there seems to be some mental health issues in his history. Don't know if that was the case, though, but it sounded recent.

[Badsmerf]

Thing is, I'm betting it will be considered just another isolated incident. How many isolated incidents does it take for some people? I'm really at a point now where i believe owning a gun should be similar to getting a driver's license. Registration included. I've been a gun owner my whole life and wouldn't care less if it is a little inconvenient to do so. So is renewing my drivers license.

[ashbury]

Thing is, I'm betting it will be considered just another isolated incident. How many isolated incidents does it take for some people? I'm really at a point now where i believe owning a gun should be similar to getting a driver's license. Registration included. I've been a gun owner my whole life and wouldn't care less if it is a little inconvenient to do so. So is renewing my drivers license.

Driving isn't in the Constitution, Hippie.

 

Shooting Hessians is.

[Squirrel]

Thing is, I'm betting it will be considered just another isolated incident. How many isolated incidents does it take for some people? I'm really at a point now where i believe owning a gun should be similar to getting a driver's license. Registration included. I've been a gun owner my whole life and wouldn't care less if it is a little inconvenient to do so. So is renewing my drivers license.

I've always thought this.

[Badsmerf]

Driving isn't in the Constitution, Hippie.

 

Shooting Hessians is.

And until that mentality about the interruption of it changes in the supreme court we are ****ed. Well, only those of us unlucky to be caught in an isolated incident I suppose.

[ashbury]

Well, only those of us unlucky to be caught in an isolated incident I suppose.

Be assured, millions of thoughts and prayers will be with you.