Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Just now, the Baseball Hall of Fame President Jeff Idelson announced that the following players were elected into the Hall of Fame: Pedro Martinez Randy JohnsonCraig BiggioJohn Smoltz
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted January 6, 2015 Author Posted January 6, 2015 In case you were wondering... Eddie Guardado did not receive any Hall of Fame votes. He will not be on next year's ballot.
Kirby_waved_at_me Verified Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Neat - it's rare that the writers elect that many players in one election, but that ballot was STACKED.
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Jon MorosiVerified account@jonmorosi The Baseball Hall of Fame is doing just fine, thanks. BBWAA elects 7 players in a 2-year span for first time since 1954-1955. Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 24m 24 minutes ago BBWAA has elected 4 players to Hall of Fame in same year for the first time since 1955. Clearing the logjam. Disagreements should be mainly on who didn't get in, not who did, Congrats to Johnson, Martinez, Smoltz and Biggio,
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 With the logjam, getting four in is actually surprising. After all, the more viable candidates there are, the more the votes will get split up.
Kirby_waved_at_me Verified Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Kind of surprised that Nomar got enough votes to stay on the ballot for another year. Mattingly will be mercifully dropped, next year will be Trammell's last time, two years for Lee Smith - to me that's another way that a logjam is cleared. Mattingly got 50 votes this year.
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted January 6, 2015 Author Posted January 6, 2015 Kind of surprised that Nomar got enough votes to stay on the ballot for another year. Mattingly will be mercifully dropped, next year will be Trammell's last time, two years for Lee Smith - to me that's another way that a logjam is cleared. Mattingly got 50 votes this year. I was fearing that Nomar wouldn't get in. He was incredible and although he will likely fall short of being a Hall of Famer, his numbers say that he should stay on the ballot for all 10 years.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Meh, there are more than 4 HoF on the ballot, voter hubris around the importance of this stuff, and about "first ballot", and about "too many"....well, it's just silly imo.
Kirby_waved_at_me Verified Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I was fearing that Nomar wouldn't get in. He was incredible and although he will likely fall short of being a Hall of Famer, his numbers say that he should stay on the ballot for all 10 years. I do think Nomar is a borderline candidate, but not quite a HOFer. I don't know if it is better to get a few votes that first year and be done (like Lou Whitaker, or this year with Carlos Delgado) or spend 10-15 years getting some support but falling well short each year (like Alan Trammell or Jack Morris).
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Meh, there are more than 4 HoF on the ballot, voter hubris around the importance of this stuff, and about "first ballot", and about "too many"....well, it's just silly imo. When have you ever known 75% of almost 600 ballots to agree on much? At least this is better than one or two.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 When have you ever known 75% of almost 600 ballots to agree on much? At least this is better than one or two. At least no one died in that accident that injured 75 people.....
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 At least no one died in that accident that injured 75 people..... See, Would Like to be More Positive -- you just have to work at it.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I do agree, it is better than 1-2. I am confused by the process, frankly.
twinsfanstreif Provisional Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I'm glad Biggio got in, he was my favorite player outside of Puckett growing up and I thought he deserved it last year. I think all 4 were deserving
notoriousgod71 Verified Member Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Next year's first timers are pretty bad. Outside of Griffey, Hoffman, and Wagner I wouldn't even think of voting for any of the others. Maybe Guzzie.... Or Bob Howry and Russ Springer.
Pius Jefferson Verified Member Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 Here's hoping that Tim Raines skyrockets up on a weaker ballot next year.
Kirby_waved_at_me Verified Member Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 Makes sense, but here's a fun bit of trivia that I didn't realize: http://m.mlb.com/news/article/105954516/john-smoltz-makes-hall-of-fame-history-post-tommy-john-surgery Smoltz is the first Hall Of Famer to have had Tommy John Surgery.
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 Makes sense, but here's a fun bit of trivia that I didn't realize: http://m.mlb.com/news/article/105954516/john-smoltz-makes-hall-of-fame-history-post-tommy-john-surgery Smoltz is the first Hall Of Famer to have had Tommy John Surgery. First pitcher. Twins' own Paul Molitor was first player - hope that helps Sano.
Kirby_waved_at_me Verified Member Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 Oh yeah! I had forgotten about that too!
jimmer Verified Member Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 Stark just did a very good article about Delgado called ‘Delgado deserves an apology’. He's talking about how he was booted off the ballot after only one time being on it. It’s a good read. Some good parts:‘He showed up on the ballot with his 473 homers and .929 career OPS.’ He ‘Hit 30-plus home runs 10 years in a row’. By comparison, ‘Only seven other eligible players in history have even had nine (or more) 30-homer seasons in a row. Four of them — Jimmie Foxx, Lou Gehrig, Mike Schmidt and Eddie Matthews — are in the Hall of Fame.’ The other three are Bonds, Sosa and Palmeiro. ‘Only nine other eligible players have ever had an OPS of .900 or better in at least nine consecutive seasons in which they qualified for the batting title. Seven are in the Hall: Gehrig, Foxx, Schmidt, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Stan Musial and Mickey Mantle.’ The other two are Bonds and Piazza. Then he compares the careers of Ortiz and Delgado and Delgado grades out about even. Now, Ortiz has the playoff stuff and that should count as Stark says, but it should also matter that Delgado played a position his whole career.
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