nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 He had his highest ERA+ and really, do you think the AL Central is really going to hurt his numbers? Ricky Nolasco, Jason Marquis and Mike Pelfrey say yes. I think it was a great deal though. Only $4 million guaranteed? It's a bargain considering the Twins routinely pay more for inferior pitchers like Pelfrey and Kevin Corriea.
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors · 25m25 minutes ago #Marlins announce two-year deal with Michael Morse.
biggentleben Verified Member Posted December 17, 2014 Author Posted December 17, 2014 Ricky Nolasco, Jason Marquis and Mike Pelfrey say yes. I think it was a great deal though. Only $4 million guaranteed? It's a bargain considering the Twins routinely pay more for inferior pitchers like Pelfrey and Kevin Corriea. I'd have a tough time putting any of the three in the same level as Floyd when he's healthy, other than Nolasco, but I understand what you mean. The deal is what I found most impressive. I think it's a great move for the money.
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal · 7m7 minutes ago Turner, Joe Ross to #Nationals. Myers, Hanigan, Jose Castillo to #Padres. Souza, Ott, Rivera, Smith, Bauers to #Rays (Souza, Ott from Nats). Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal · 8m8 minutes ago That is not the official deal, just an outline coming from a source. Competitive-balance picks also might be involved.
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS · 3m3 minutes ago royals and volquez in agreement, $20, 2 yrs.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS · 3m3 minutes ago royals and volquez in agreement, $20, 2 yrs. That's a pretty good deal for KC.
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS · 7m7 minutes ago Manhattan, NY josh johnson headed back to padres. base expected to be a bit less than $2M with incentives that can take him back to $8M.
Bark's Lounge Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 One would have to think the Matt Kemp trade is going to be nullified because of the results of his physical (Arthritis in both hips). Albert Belle retired do to degenerative hip osteoarthritis at the age of 34, It looks like Kemp isn't in that dire of a predicament, but who's to say it won't get to that point in the next year or so. I think it would be haphazard for the Padres to proceed to pull the trigger on that deal.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Royals also sign Kris Medlen, 2/7.5 plus a $10 mil mutual option ($1 mil buyout).
Kirby_waved_at_me Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Padres acquire Catcher Derek Norris from the Athletics ... oh and Justin Upton from the Braves.
Kirby_waved_at_me Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Jake Peavy is returning to the Giants on a 2 year deal
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Justin Upton to the Padres is being reported as a done deal. Also Derek Norris from the A's to the Padres. If so, they've added Kemp, Myers, and Upton in the OF. Who plays CF...Kemp?
Kirby_waved_at_me Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Could probably make a case for any of the three to play in Center. Kemp has the most experience there, Myers is the youngest, Upton might be the most athletic/healthiest one. I'm guessing they roll with Kemp and if he can't do it, they try Myers.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Myers either traded again (for a SS or 3B), or he plays CF and Kemp plays 1B......I'd do one of those.
Kirby_waved_at_me Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 I think Derek Norris and Yonder Alonso are going to be playing 1B for the Padres. Flipping Myers is interesting - how about Myers for Plouffe?
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Alonso is pretty "meh", though certainly Norris is there......if they keep all those guys in the OF, maybe the Twins won't have the worst OF defense. I'd think you'd have to give up more for Myers than just Plouffe. I'd think they would aim much, much higher.
Kirby_waved_at_me Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 I agree - the plouffe for Myers was a little tongue-in-cheek. I'll say one thing for the Padres' moves so far - they needed to improve their offense, and boy did they!
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Man, they didn't give up much for him, other than prospect depth. I'd rather the Twins had traded one decent/good prospect for him, than sign Hunter......
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Now SD is talking to Boston about flipping Hanigan for Wil Middlebrooks. If anyone ever wanted proof that prospects are just that...prospects, there it is. Rated as Boston's top prospect going into 2012. Now possibly being traded for 33 yr old Ryan Hannigan, coming off two season's of sub .230 hitting. Keep that in mind when projecting Sano and Buxton as AL All Stars by 2017. Or by 2015, if we check posts from a couple years ago.
Kirby_waved_at_me Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Lock up your catchers! The Padres are coming to trade them!
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Man is San Diego aggressively retooling their position players. I have to think Kemp plays CF there - it isn't a big CF and part of his issues last year (if I recall) was frustration being moved off of CF.
Kirby_waved_at_me Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Padres added Catcher David Ross (Presumably as trade bait)
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 If someone were to ask me a week ago if Ryan Hannigan had any trade value, I would have said no. Now he's been traded twice in a week. Makes me wish the Twins had some of that boring, replaceable and seemingly useless defensive catcher depth they used to overstock the previous decade. You know, guys like Rene Rivera and Drew Butera. Rumor is, even those guys could get moved in this market.
Kirby_waved_at_me Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Eric Fryer's ears are burning . . .
Willihammer Provisional Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Yankees land Eovaldi and Garrett Jones for Prado and Phelps.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 If someone were to ask me a week ago if Ryan Hannigan had any trade value, I would have said no. Now he's been traded twice in a week. Makes me wish the Twins had some of that boring, replaceable and seemingly useless defensive catcher depth they used to overstock the previous decade. You know, guys like Rene Rivera and Drew Butera. Rumor is, even those guys could get moved in this market.Hanigan has a career 90 OPS+, good defensive/framing stats, and a reasonable contract ($3.5 mil each of the next two seasons). Why wouldn't he have value? Rene Rivera, prior to last season's 117 OPS+, had a career mark of 45. Butera's is 42. Big difference.
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS · 5m5 minutes ago Corey hart gets $2.5M from pirates, plus $2.5M in incentives 1 yr. deal
biggentleben Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Author Posted December 19, 2014 I don't have any issue with the Braves trade today. A ton of upside in the guys acquired for a one-year rental. The word is that the Giants would offer nearly as much individually for Chris Johnson with his control as for Upton on a one-year deal. I think this offseason has really showed that the player with one year left isn't quite as valuable as once believed.
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors · 59s59 seconds ago A’s To Release Nick Punto http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/?p=45304 Jane Lee @JaneMLB · 7m7 minutes ago A's release Punto, so they'll eat his $2.75 million salary in 2015.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 I don't have any issue with the Braves trade today. A ton of upside in the guys acquired for a one-year rental. The word is that the Giants would offer nearly as much individually for Chris Johnson with his control as for Upton on a one-year deal. I think this offseason has really showed that the player with one year left isn't quite as valuable as once believed.Agreed. It's interesting that while a lot of free agents are getting more money than expected, some big trade targets are fetching less.
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