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What reports where those? Reading stuff from ESPN, sounded like Nix looked good. Reading stuff from NFL.com sounds like Penix looked good. For me, this time of year I'm going to relay on the big boy media outlets (though not the toady Adam Schefter), as little as I like to. Anything from 'sources' on Twitter or whatnot I'm going to presume is propaganda from teams or agents trying to sway opinion one way or another.
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I took my stance back, I'm not out if it's Varland and Rodriguez. I'm out if it's Ober. I'm willing to use Ober or Ryan to upgrade to Jesus Luzardo, but not Cease. 50/50 at best Cease is even an upgrade to those two. I'd roll the dice with the lower prospects, but he doesn't have the track record of success of the Marlins pitchers nor the long term upside of the Mariners pitchers.
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Wow. I'd rather trade for any of those three guys by themselves over Cease who only has two years of control. In fact I'd expect Chicago to have to kick in significant pieces BACK to Seattle or the Twins. Ober was better than Cease last year, and Miller and Woo were about the same, but that was their rookie year. Presumably they'll only get better and better. I guess my evaluation is quite different than league expectations. I'd do Varland or Festa and Rodriguez, but if the White Sox rebuffed the Mariners for Miller and Woo, that doesn't seem strong enough.
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I like him better than Burnes who only has one year of control, and Bieber who's strikeout numbers have fallen off of cliff. But he really has only had that one elite year of production, and I'm guessing the White Sox will be demanding to be paid for what he did in 2022, not 2023 or 2021 and prior. I've seen him pitch and he looks pretty dominant usually, and while his BB% isn't off the charts, the fact that every year he either leads the league in total walks or wild pitches makes me think he could snap and completely come apart at any moment:
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Good news, maybe the other starters will start to move.
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The Vikings are running into some really bad luck with this draft, as with most drafts I suppose. At this time there doesn't seem to be any "can't miss" defensive players that normally tempt teams in the first couple of picks. I mean, those three teams are coached by three defensive guys; it's too bad there isn't a Will Anderson, Myles Garrett, Jadeveon Clowney or another Bosa brother to temp those teams to pick them instead. That said, Washington and New England are going to have new GMs too, and new GMs like to act like the smartest guys in the room, which often means doing the unexpected and wheeling and dealing. I'm also not counting out any of them from really wanting Marvin Harrison and thinking they can simply pair him with Cousins to make the offense an immediate upgrade.
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I want a QB, and I like the edge rushers better at this point, but Murphy could easily push his way into that group for me. Since this team needs so dang many of them, it will probably come down to what looks better in the day 2 and 3 picks. Will there be more interesting interior guys or more interesting edge guys later in the draft? TBD until at least after the combine.
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Right, because even if that's the best chance, it's still like 2%. That's not worth it.
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It would be a very poor reaction indeed.
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I was more than fine moving Polanco. With his position in flux, there are plenty of options to replace him sitting at other levels. The odds are that at least one of Miranda, Lee, Martin, Severino, Prato, Camargo or someone else will end up being as good if not better with the bat. I was just saying if I had to choose between the two, I'd pick Polanco over Kepler due to Polanco's more reliable bat. -
Excited to see what he can do! Don't like the idea that his, or Jenkins or any other player's season is planned out a year in advance. There's no need to keep them at a level if they are performing above expectations, just as there's no need to promote them if they aren't.
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It's really early, I think it's more likely than not that they get another pitcher to pitch day 2. Not confident, but hopeful. Maybe 60-40.
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Kepler has never repeated a good season, if he sticks with the Twins, I hope he does. But objectively, I'm not looking at him any differently than free agents like Jeimer Candelario or Cody Bellinger. They don't interest me as I believe that veterans who have an actual sustained career renaissance is very small. Most revert to their inconsistent and disappointing ways.
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Losing Polanco doesn't help the offense, just the offenses flexibility in using the DH. I was in favor of keeping him over Kepler actually. As for Soler vs Kepler, I don't really want either, but while both players are wildly inconsistent, Soler is much less so. Soler has a career OPS of .797 vs. Kepler's .753 and Solar's power doesn't up and disappear two out of every three years like Kepler's does. Soler's bad seasons were also his injury seasons, I don't know that there's much of a rationale for Kepler's poor seasons. I think smart teams look for year-in-year-out reliable hitters though and that's neither of these guys. But if I had to choose, I'd take the more reliable one.
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No, I don’t imagine the Twins have any interest in another left handed corner outfielder, particularly one that’s out of options. They grow on trees around here.
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Why Berroa? The Twins just traded for one Mariner reliever and signed/claimed a half dozen other AAAA caliber relievers who also have terrible control problems. No idea about his options, but he's been around for ages so I'm guessing he's out of them.
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Joe Smith Retires ...... no batters, yet again. It must have been contagious, because the guys they only gave MiLB free agent contracts to didn't fare any better. Tim Beckham hasn't played in any level since and Jharel Cotton moved to Japan. At least Aaron Sanchez gave the Saints another go without once being considered for the big league call up in 2023. Alas, he was released for what appears to be the final time last August having never faced another MLB batter. Shockingly, Billy Hamilton managed two ABs with the White Sox last year. But unfortunately for him, those two ABs were against the Twins, and it appears that was all it took for the initiation to be conusummated. Surely, they all watched in awe as Gary Sanchez promptly signed a with a new team that offseason, on April 1st.
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It's possible it was DeSclafani's contract. Most of our off season trade speculation threads had a post or two about moving both Kepler and Polanco to the same team but those were usually met with refuting ideas that no team wanted both of their contracts. Well if the Mariners actually were willing, maybe DeSclafani's full salary was the thing that pushed it over the edge.
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Sorry, I disagree with that as well, I think the teams do understand it. It's not even February, I think some of these guys WILL be moved. Right now it's just a waiting game and in about a month or so from now I hope the Twins come out with one of them like they do most years. If not the Twins, some other teams almost certainly will.
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I'm not disagreeing. The original take was that there would be no streaming. If Bally/Diamond/Amazon won't stream Twins games but will stream other teams' games, I'd say the Twins are being taken advantage of. No clue if that's the case, I'm guessing it's all just negotiation ploys since the Twins aren't currently under contract. And if it is and that avenue doesn't work, there's no reason MLB shouldn't be streaming them. But a "reasonable price" probably shouldn't matter. The Twins are operating as if they're getting no revenue, so they should be streaming the games even if they aren't getting a nickel. I'm not saying they need to take one on the chin now, I'm not impatient, but if no one is offering to pay them a fair price come the season opener, an unfair price should still be accepted.
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If the Twins passed up one of Seattle’s real pitchers for Kepler, I’ll be upset. With that salary savings they could have signed Hoskins or Turner and put Kirilloff back in the outfield.
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That's a different take than the one about having no streaming whatsoever because Bally/Diamond/Amazon stuck their tongues out at the Twins. And I don't disagree with you. If the Twins ditch streaming all together because the Wall Street suits are giving them the business, than the Minnesota brain trust is every bit the backward, fly-over country, push-overs the rest of the country thinks we are.
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I don't know if more will be traded at the deadline or this offseason, but I will guess that just about all of them that ARE traded at the deadline are available now. If teams don't get the offers they want for Cease, Burnes, Luzardo, Bieber, they'll wait. And aside from Burnes who is on a one year deal, the price likely won't go down come July, because that's when the buyers are more desperate. And this is not a disregard for risk mitigation, it's a long term look at risk mitigation. Pay today's prices up front for extended production, instead of paying more over a period of years for repeated short term production. That's pretty much how all owners wanted to pay every player between Bobby Bonilla and Shohei Ohtani. Give up a Brooks Lee now, or an Emmanuel Rodriguez every single year. It's a no brainer.
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nicksaviking replied to nicksaviking's topic in Minnesota Vikings Talk
Well, Mayo, Pierce and Morris just got jobs, that's pretty good. I would worry for Mayo and Pierce in particular, that they were given the jobs as a token gesture with ownership knowing it's time to rebuild and these guys are just stewards overseeing things until the organization gets back on track at which point they'll be scapegoated and the club can hire their real king. Like the Dolphins did with Flores and the Cardinals did with Steve Wilks. -
Well if they're not streaming games, it was probably the last chance for most Twins fans to hear him talk this year. He might as well promised us we were all going to win the lottery then. Why would the Pohald's agree to this though? They aren't forced to do any of this. This isn't going to go over well, but I think Dave St. Peter is really bad at his job and has been for quite some time.
