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Everything posted by nicksaviking
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Yeah, I don't think people realize that Sandy Koufax was only 'Sandy Koufax' for six seasons. He famously retired early due to the onset of arthritis but he also peaked late. We remember Johan Santana's early struggles, but that was basically two seasons, The Koufax who people remembered didn't occur until year six at the earliest. Koufax as a Santana comp might actually be generous to Sandy Koufax. Blasphamy!!!! I know.
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I didn’t say anything about the budget. They are trying to sell the team; that’s literally de-committing from the franchise. As so, I struggle to see any moves going forward as being motivated in the interests of long-term success on the field.
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I misread your prologue, I saw 2022 and thought that was the first trade in chronological order. I was just saying that they also found creative trades prior to then, particularly when it came to starting pitching. Sonny Gray and Jake Odorizzi were also great trades though they weren't big leaguer for big leaguer. Which wouldn't be a requirement for me.
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This list only goes back two years, and overall the off season trades have been pretty good, while the in season trades have mostly been disasters. So, I guess if they're going to make moves, now is the time. But still, without the commitment from ownership, I'm still of the mind that they should be in a holding pattern. Any moves now seem more likely to be aimed at lowering costs to make the team more attractive to new owners or a token gesture to fans that doesn't actually accomplish anything on the field.
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Nathan will be tough. Reliever seems to be the one position where counting stats still matter most. Had he not got injured, he and Billy Wagner are probably in the exact same spot right now. But at this point he probably still has to wait for Wagner, K-Rod and even John Franco. In a few years Kenny Jensen and Craig Kimbrel jump in line ahead of him.
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Yeah felt dumb typing all that and then straddling the fence. Hard to see this team firing their GM if they pull off 10+ wins. Even if they should.
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For sure, but that injury that cut short his career was epic. He threw 134 pitches to get the Mets their first franchise no-hitter and basically blew out his arm doing so. His ERA was 2.38 after that game and his season quickly spiraled out of control. He was probably the front runner for Cy Young at that point, but the Mets had to shut him down twice before finally the third time he waved the white flag and had to call it a season which turned into calling it a career. I'm still surprised he didn't get the Koufax/Puckett consideration; his peak was up their with the elite HOF arms and my opinion has always been that if the final pitch in the 9th inning of that June 1st no hitter was the last he threw, he would have been voted in on the first ballot like Puckett was. Instead the mere 10 flailing starts that followed somehow tricked the voters into perceiving him to be in the category of good-not-great.
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They clearly can't draft and develop them, so I guess grabbing veterans for the spots is their only option anyway. Only Ingram, Chandler, Nailor and Muse left from that 2022 draft and Ingram, Chandler and Muse are basically already out the door. Addison and Ward are the only two left from 2023. So one starter combined from those classes now and the only starter from 2024 is the kicker. I'm not saying Adofo-Mensah has to go as there's more to being a GM than the draft, but they need to find a new outside voice to help, who even if they don't run the draft, they have significant input and sway. This isn't working.
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My question would be, are the Twins really going to get a better player if they save 6M on Castro? Whether they spend 6M, 4M or 0M of the savings, I wouldn't expect that player to be nearly as useful. I could see him TRADED for something useful, but I don't see them shopping for something useful on the free agent market with those funds. Or actually any funds they may find themselves with this year.
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Of course Brock Purdy may not play when the 49er's play Green Bay. Ugh, I hate the Packers.
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You don't think he'll be a malcontent? He just asked for his release instead of sitting on the bench, so clearly he thinks he should be a starter. If you grab him now, then that means he won't have a chance to test free agency and realize NOBODY wants him to start. And honestly, I think I'd rather have Mullens (and I don't want Mullens). Jones seems to have the same problem as Justin Fields and Christian Ponder. Tentative, indecisive and slow reads hanging on to the ball too long getting sacked. It's been six years and the guy still can't or won't throw deep even with a stud rookie downfield threat on the team, he's probably the worst in the league at it with 6.1 yards per attempt.
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I don't think he accepted being humbled though, otherwise he wouldn't have asked for his release. He would have accepted that his play wasn't good enough, kept his mouth shut and then set out to land in Buffalo or Detroit next year where he knows he won't start but he can show everyone that he can be a role player and a good soldier on a winning team. I don't think he should go anywhere, like Minnesota, where there will be even a hint of role ambiguity.
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Ooof, I don't know, I don't think I want him on this team. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who could handle looking over his shoulder at McCarthy, and he also doesn't seem to be the kind of guy who will handle losing the starting job to McCarthy well either. At least I think he's not that kind of guy yet. I think he needs to take the Carson Wentz/Blaine Gabbert path. Get humbled when he realizes no team wants to offer him a starting job, than accept his fate and eventually find a prime back up gig and make a nice career out of it, realizing that maybe he'll get another shot at starting later in life. I don't think I want the Vikings to be the SECOND team he goes to. That didn't work out for the teams that signed Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield or Geno Smith as reclamation projects.
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I've always been a Pittsburgh and Tomlin fan, but that team is so dang stubborn. I know conventional wisdom says to run in those conditions, but they were constantly getting stuffed on the big plays. And for good reason, they only have average RBs and Cleveland has a stout front seven. Not to mention that everyone knows Pittsburgh WANTS to run the ball. In games with bad footing, the WRs have the biggest edge out of any position as they're running forward and the defenders trying to cover them are running backwards. Wilson had a 75% completion rate, they should have been passing more than they were running, and by a lot.
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Right his value is in taking ABs away from Manny Margot, Kyle Farmer and any other low end veteran they'd consider bringing in. And with this team being able to generate some exciting young players, who inexplicably fall off a cliff without warning, he'd help with that too.
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I don't see him getting close this year. But he'll get in eventually, and it won't be popular. And I feel a bit bad about it as I was always an 'Eli is overrated guy'. But top 12 passing yards and TDs and two Super Bowl wins. Mostly he couldn't get out of Peyton's shadow. I kind of see him now as a Derek Jeter or Charles Barkley. I disliked them when they played, but I probably had little reason to other than because of the teams they played for.
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As always in the NFL HOF voting (and unlike every other sport), guys at the same position will take votes away from each other. I hadn't remembered how good Luke Keuchly was, but I'd put money on him getting the LB votes over Suggs this year. Only 8 seasons, but five time 1st team AP, two times 2nd team AP and the year he didn't make AP he won defensive rookie of the year. Then if Suggs is looked at as an edge rusher instead, I'd bet Allen gets his votes, mostly because this HOF makes you wait in line. One of the offensive lineman will probably get in. I'd guess Willie Anderson since he's been a finalist 5 times. Then I'd guess one of the WRs, and I'd guess Steve Smith or Reggie Wayne. I'll say Wayne because of the pecking order thing again. I'll further guess that Jerry Jones throws his weight around to get the Cowboys their only win this year and Darren Woodson gets in. Seems about right for Gates to get in as well. And as good as Vinatieri was, I'm guessing they won't let a kicker get in on his first ballot.
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I'd guess if anyone is taken, it's Moran. The MLB experience will help, but we've also seen teams take players who they were able to shelve on the IR. My dark horse is Will Holland as utility guys are the easiest to stash. I don't see any team picking and using a 26-man spot all year for a catcher. That's just asking for roster trouble. But I doubt anyone is claimed and I agree with the rest, I'm not worried if they are.
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Yeah, it didn't turn out to be a good trade, but the Twins traded an A ball no-namer for a AAA prospect who had legit five tool upside.
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Who Would You Elect to the MLB Hall of Fame Class of 2025?
nicksaviking replied to Teflon's topic in Other Baseball
I'm not sure why someone would put A-Rod in but not Manny Ramirez then. I don't care that they're not in, they knew this would very likely be a consequence for juicing and they did it anyway. But as the years pass, I care less and less. It's just a bust and a plaque, and I have no strong feelings either way. Still, the rest of the players busted during that era didn't get in so staying the course seems like the best option. I think you let the last couple remaining age off the ballots, and then some time in the future, everyone can revisit that group of players and decide if they want to amend the situation. -
Zimmer's for sure. I've never liked McCarthy as a coach and wouldn't want him on my team. But some owner might put weight on those back-to-back-to-back 12-5 seasons. Probably not next year though.
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Twins Trade Candidate Breakdown: Doris From HR
nicksaviking replied to Lou Hennessy's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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Twins Trade Candidate Breakdown: Doris From HR
nicksaviking replied to Lou Hennessy's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Pretty sure that was the point. Stu taking aim at the site instead of the Twins this time, and I got a kick out of it.

