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Minnesota Twins Arbitration Dilemma: Jhoan Durán
nicksaviking replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Well be prepared because if as implied and Twins give us nothing to talk about this off season, discussions here are going to be like Uncle John trying to fill awkward silence during Thanksgiving dinner. "So, how about that weather we're having?" -
I agree with your post, but the first sentence is what always gets me about these discussions. When it comes to player development, I think draft position needs to be dropped from consideration about two years into their minor league career. At that point, they need to be evaluated on production and attributes that indicate future capabilities. When it comes to prospect ranking, I think that consideration needs to be dropped after year two in the majors. Again, they should mostly be evaluated on their production and attributes that indicate future capabilities. And honestly, I think fans are better about this than front offices. And it's not a Twins thing, it's a leaguewide reluctance to cash out the initial investment. I'm long past caring about Kirilloff's draft position and prospect rankings. I'm not saying drop him for some waiver wire veteran, but I've seen enough to move on.
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Right, two of the Vikings lowest yardage games came when the game was over before half time. You usually don’t get yards in those kinds of games. Detroit just scored 52 points and only totaled 225 yards total.
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It would be close for me. Johnson has had crap QBs but I'm also not sure he was ever more than an average receiver to begin with. Odds are Hopkins is done, but quite often those HOF types get a change of scenery with a chip on their shoulder and prove everyone wrong one last time. But both went for a pick just one round a part. KC is sending a 4th, but it's a 5th if they don't make it back to the Super Bowl.
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I'm not surprised. Johnson hasn't done much in four years. Definitely still a usable player, but probably not in the same class as the other WRs that have been traded.
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I know I'm lower on Addison than some, but this seems like a trade the Vikings could have done and then stocking up on better DL/OL/Picks for Addison.
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Dionte Johnson and a 6th to the Ravens for a 5th. Great trade for the Ravens, that's basically nothing. Still, that's never seemed to be an offense that can support more than one wide receiver.
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Well I guess there will be no drama about it, the Colts have already announced Richardson is benched for Flacco. I'd rather see Flacco, but at least the Vikings will know what to prepare for. The Vikings should be the better team by a mile, but I'll be worried about quick hitters to Taylor and Downs. Downs looks like he's going to be a pain to cover. Outside of one play last week, he doesn't seem to really be a big play threat, but one of those guys who can get to the sticks and pick up a first down every time you need one.
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What great numbers are you looking at? And what are you considering 'great'? Keeping in mind this is a corner bat only. And his power isn't going to increase if his swing plane continues to look like a table top.
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Has he? In his four partial seasons he's only once had an OBP over .300. I think you'd have to really buy into his very ordinary 319 PA in 2023 and disregard his other poor 565 PA in his career to come to that conclusion. Couple that with next to no power potential and him ONLY being able to play 1B and I see little upside with Kirilloff. I'd look to see if he could be included as a 3rd or 4th piece in a trade before I non-tender him though.
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Bottom of the 6th 2 on 2 out. This seems like the series here.
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Getting Cashman back should help a ton. The quick hit passes often fall in him to defend. Hopefully it will free up Grenard and Van Ginkle to get after the QB again too.
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This conversation is tiring, I'm sitting the rest of this out......
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I'd much rather face Richardson than Flacco (I can't imagine typing that a year ago) so they better plan accordingly for more wily veteran quick throws. Jonathan Taylor and Josh Downs specialize at those.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/shane-steichen-on-anthony-richardson-starting-this-week-were-evaluating-everything Well here we go. Of course this happens against the Vikings. Now they'll have to draw up and practice two completely different game plans for two completely different QBs. I know it's not like they're stuck scheming for either Joe Montana or Steve Young, but still. Last week Kupp and Nacua surprisingly suit up, London three weeks ago and Love comes back early and plays four weeks ago. The Vikings sure seem to be running a gauntlet of atypical and unexpected game planning.
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I was waiting to find out that he is a Swiftie but unable to name any of her songs!
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I agree. This is similar to my feeling that if you're scared that calling up a young player will damage their psyche should they initially fail, that player likely shouldn't be in the long term plans. If these guys can't mentally handle the adversity or role change, they probably aren't the kind of guy that can perform and lead the team to post season success. And full disclosure, I'm also not that guy. I went behind the bleachers and barfed before every one of my high school track meets. So no judgements, just my observation. Winners seem to be built differently.
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These guys all seem to have either control or inconsistency issues. Most seem to have both. I guess I don't see how most of these guys are really in much of a different situation than Okert was last year. More than any other position, there is less correlation between how much you pay a reliever and how they perform on the field. If the Twins can't fill the role internally (and I'd give that a shot first) I don't think the odds that any of these guys will perform to expectations are much higher than some random waiver-wire arm we'd all groan about. And really, any one of these guys is a poor three month stretch away from also being a waiver wire arm. Whether the club goes with known names or no-names, the free agent relievers rarely work out. If this team has a limited budget, I'm not going to squander it on bullpen pieces.
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To be fair, just about every other position does come out for a breather from time to time; OL and QB seem to be the only exceptions. But of all the QBs in the league, he's probably the last guy who should be expecting his exception to that exception to go over well.
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Right, initially I thought I heard he came out for a play as he had the wind knocked out of him. Why not stick with that? So dumb. I mean, if he doesn't care what a bunch of fat, middle aged men sitting on their couches think about that, more power to him. But maybe should be concerned about what the teammates think and maybe even more importantly, you probably don't want to let the upcoming opponents know they can take you out of the game by getting him too tired.
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That this league talks about expansion is crazy. There aren't 34 NFL capable QBs on the planet. I'm not sure there are 20.
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Yet, they still blow. I see Caleb Williams is trying to make Anthony Richardson feel better about himself.
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What do you have to add to Addison to get Maxx Crosby?
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/matt-lafleur-has-high-level-of-concern-about-jordan-loves-groin-injury Feel free to share your thoughts about Jordan Loves' groin.
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For all the pre-draft talk, Daniels is the much more NFL ready QB. Neither has done much, but Williams has a whiff of Justin Fields, where he looks indecisive, a bit slow on his reads and reluctant to push the ball down the field. I *think* he'll end up fine, but if he is indecisive, it seems to me that is the one thing that never gets coached out of QBs. Best case they end up as a Teddy Bridgewater kind of game manager. Worst case is Christian Ponder. I'd guess his high end skill level will give him confidence push him past that, but I think it's a possible long term threat.
