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  1. Ok, we've covered this part too. 300 is the COMBINED CAREER number of PAs for BOTH Larnach and Wallner over 6-7 seasons...
  2. Yeah I'm not exactly excited about Austin Martin getting starts in CF. I'm probably less excited about a France, Bader, Vazquez 7-9. They could've held water defensively in CF with less investment. Clearly, the Twins want Bader's bat as well. I disagree.
  3. With the important caveat that Martin or someone of lesser stature (be it financial commitment or service time) won't get the same leash. In that way I don't believe the complaint is misplaced. Eh, Martin torpedoing your season and Bader saving it seems a little hyperbolic. I think it's just as likely we get to August and we're asking why this club is still investing time in Bader. I think the positives Bader brings will be outweighed by his misuse. .
  4. We've been over this; he hasn't faced LHP since 2019. Nobody is the "4th OF," with the way this team platoons, and that's precisely the point you continue to dodge. Why get fixated on how many PAs this team will commit to a terrible hitter? Yeesh. What a comp....
  5. Concur, square peg round hole yada yada, but that doesn't change the fact this FO sought out Harrison Bader for a specific role, one which I don't believe he's capable of actually filling.
  6. You answered your own question. His salary probably more than his defense will buy him time. Bader hasn't hit for 3 seasons, and two of those three he wasn't good against LHP either. Is this the lefty bounce back year, or is he almost/already cooked? Eh, Idk if I'd call the angst misplaced. This organization seeks out this type of player. Like I said, it's idealized role vs. reality. I don't begrudge Bader for accepting the contract, but I don't for one second believe he'll be utilized as an actual 4th OF, or that this organization will move on if/when his presence at the bottom of the lineup starts to become an albatross.
  7. His? 300 is the combined number of career PAs between the two.... Speaking of convenient, Bader is back to being a 4th OF now? You just said you want/expect him to finish with enough PAs to put him in the top 5 from last season. I understand that locking yourself into that many PAs of a below average at best hitter isn't a great idea. Happy to be wrong though... Austin Martin outhit Bader last year. I know you hate him, and yes his OF defense was brutal, but for all his warts, rookie Austin Martin outhit Harrison Bader, the same Harrison Bader you're hoping gets 400 PAs.
  8. Lol "since 2019," is an interesting way to phrase it, Each subsequent year he's been either injured or predominately with the Twins who, as we've already gone over, won't let him face LHP. You have to give them a chance to perform. He can't pencil himself into the lineup, or stop his manager from sending in a PH. Ditto for Wallner. Is there some magic threshold beyond which you can be certain? Ok, so he's not a 4th OF. I think if you're dumping 400 PAs into a guy coming off the season Bader just had, that player should have upside, or options, or a potential future with the club. 400 PAs ties Bader for 5th most on the team last year. You have to hit if you're getting that kind of run. He's not being reduced to anything; I'm pointing out that handing that many PAs to a negative contributor is poor strategy. I can appreciate a player's ability to catch the ball while simultaneously understanding that he also has to hit it in order to maintain any surplus value.
  9. I think there's an equal or greater chance that Bader continues his struggles, except there's no upside vs. RHP which he'll see at least 50% of the time. Larnach's career vs LHP is essentially 2ish months of PAs spread over 4 years. We're talking about less than 50 PAs per season. It's a moot point, because this organization is determined to never let these guys face LHP, but it borders on self fulling prophecy territory. Again, 300 PAs spread over a combined 6-7 seasons between the two. Isn't pretending exactly what we're doing with Bader? Is his role not being understated? Are we not advocating for a guy who was borderline replacement level last year to get a starter-esque workload into his 30s following three seasons of decline? I'm fine with Larnach sitting vs. LHP, but the alternative should be somebody who can actually hit. LF defense and baserunning take a back seat when we're talking about a .570 OPS vs. low .600s OPS. I couldn't cringe any harder thinking about Bader entering the game as a PH in the 5th, then coming up in the 8th vs. a RHP with RISP.
  10. Larnach and Wallner (who each held their own against LHP in the minors) combined for 67 PAs vs LHP pitching last year. That's enough to sit them vs. LHP without a second thought, but notorious lefty killer Harrison Bader and his .612 OPS vs LHP in 153 PAs last year gets a pass? Odd. I'll gladly listen to a SSS argument, but I'll also direct you to the 67 combined PAs. Maybe you misread my post (such a "stupid," thought might not have come across clearly) but I'm not opposed to Bader as a short side OF, I just have zero faith that'll actually be his role. The number of options this team can shuffle through isn't what's in question. How they'll choose to invest that playing time is what we're discussing.
  11. The "blocking," aspect is irrelevant, and it's being used as a strawman of sorts by other posters. Is Bader going to be used as a true short side platoon OF and late innings defensive replacement/pinch runner, or are we going to see him getting starts in the corner vs. RHP + CF on Buxton rest days as well as entering games early (5th inning on) as a PH? How long will the least be with that $7M price tag? Again, E-Rod or whoever aren't even part of this discussion. How many PAs will this team feed to a glove only OF in the name of "depth," or defensive flexibility? Is this team actually going to discard a vet they've spent that type of money on? Agreed, we should be fair, but the issue seems to be his idealized role vs. reality.
  12. Those players also stick in the organization by playing in the minors. This deal is active roster or bust is it not?
  13. No doubt there was a rhetorical element to the question as what anybody is willing to stomach is subjective. I'm unfamiliar with the field but going on title alone I'm assuming it has something to do with maximizing output within given constraints which is (unfortunately) very applicable to this team.
  14. Appreciate the visualization. Idk if I necessarily agree with the "available players," qualifier when measuring Bader's efficiency, but FWIW I don't "hate," the signing so much as the presumed deployment. I actually agree Bader is probably the safest option, but I think he falls below the threshold based on offensive limitations and a lack of options alone; his salary is the cherry on top. Like I said in another post, in a vacuum the signing is certainly defensible, but the issue is twofold, the season doesn't happen in a vacuum, and once you start stacking guys like Bader, France, ect on the roster and vow to hold them in sickness and in health, the Tetris board starts to clog up pretty quickly.
  15. Concur, but the when/how/why needs to be part of the calculus here too.
  16. Neither plays good enough defense to justify the number of PAs they'd get so whatever defensive edge either could provide is null. If you're insistent on having another black hole in the lineup, you can pay Keirsey league minimum, have solid if unspectacular CF defense, and throw the $6M+ in savings at somebody who can actually hit. If Keirsey doesn't float your boat you can sacrifice some defense, make Castro the Buxton insurance ergo upgrading your offense while still keeping the savings. If you think that (barring injury) giving 350-400 PAs, at least half of which will come against RHP, to a glove only OF is a good investment then we simply disagree with the resource allocation. It isn't "hating," it's just the reality of the situation. This team absolutely will not use Bader as only a 4th OF option/late innings pinch runner or defensive replacement.
  17. You can find a .543 OPS + defense in house.
  18. 100% relevant if Martin can play 2B and you can sign or call up somebody for CF defense. That's Bader with some offensive upside + $6M. Instead they're clinging to washed, or semi washed guys who also might suck, but will occupy a roster spot infinitely longer and cost more.
  19. Matt Wallner sat at AAA with an OPS near 1.000 while Gallo flailed away for nearly 3 months. Martin, as a rookie, at minimum matched Bader's offensive output last year. If defense was that important they could've found a glove only CF option for a lot less. If you want to argue that guys like Bader and France keep the bottom from falling out, I'd say you're patching the hole with paper mache. Nobody has said that France or Bader, in a vacuum, are unreasonable moves, but based on the Twins modus operandi their usage doesn't align with what some are suggesting their role will be. They're also unlikely to get a quick hook, and most importantly, neither moves the needle as far as collecting Ws is concerned.
  20. Not even close.... Don't marry yourself to underperforming players you hope don't continue the trend because you're terrified that cheaper guys with options might underperform.
  21. It's not, for the reason you cited in your last sentence. They can't stash him to start the season. This isn't a Tim Beckham break glass in case of emergency type deal.
  22. I definitely have an issue with the organizational philosophy when it comes to player usage.
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