chpettit had a great post up thread a bit, showing the trajectory of Gray's career. Yes, his young years, he went deeper, but 2014-15 is 7-8 yrs ago. Are you expecting him to all of a sudden be who he was for two seasons, 7-8 yrs ago, and not who he's been the past 6 yrs? Even after he's had some injuries during this season? And this obviously isn't just the Twins. What that tells me is that it isn't a pitching philosophy as much as going 7-8 innings isn't going to happen with him, that he's not that kind of a workhorse. I'm hoping for 5-6 good innings/game the rest of the season. If he makes it to 7 on occasion, good for him. That's a workhorse. And, personally, the problem isn't that he's only pitching 5-6 innings, it's that the FO didn't construct a better BP given that's really all starters are doing these days ... averaging 5.something innings per game. I think the Twins have shown they will let pitchers go longer, but you aren't going to see an average to good pitcher in today's game consistently hit 7-8 innings unless they are the very good to great kind. And I never viewed that video of Gray as him complaining about Rocco or the Twins so much as he wishes he could do that again. This season there may have been 2 or 3 games we maybe could have tried to push him to another inning, but I also don't think the Twins are holding him back, either.